1. Land locked park 2. About to be a 15 coaster park 3. Decent amount of flats
Basically, what you have is a sardine box. Unless you want 5 plus things removed for a huge coaster like Raging Bull, it isn't going to happen. They have to remove two rides just to put in Joker.
The park is Not land locked there's plenty of land still available, there's just no good way to get to it all there's a ton of land by the employee parking lot the problem is six flags would have to spend money to move the buildings around which they don't want to do.
Uh, moving buildings around and finding new parking lot space? DO you have any idea how expensive that is and how long that takes? Unfortunately the Park is very, VERY landlocked. People say Cedar Point has a space issue, take a look at Great America. For years they've wanted to put a coaster at the front of the Park, like when they tried for Chang/Green Lantern or were in talks for a 2nd Mack coaster, but now to accomplish this they will have to remove Whizzer, and probably both the Pictorium and Hometown Fun Machine as well.
Space is AN issue, but it's not THE issue. If they really really cared about having as many rides as possible, they could move some things around and fit more things in (especially if they were more willing to have new rides go over/under existing rides). But I think that's secondary to their worries about cost and staffing.
staticshadows wrote:If they were serious about expanding the park, they would buy these 10.17 acres now and work on buying four homes to connect this property to the parking lot later. Rezoning land, buying houses, and building parking lots is expensive, but would be cheaper than building parking garages. http://media.wix.com/ugd/98d1fe_cdd25fed5e534b549886f81a0cf39d4f.pdf
That's the thing, though - they're NOT serious about expanding the park (I highly doubt it's something that they've ever even discussed). They don't care. It would cost them tens or hundreds of millions of dollars, and Six Flags corporate shows absolutely no desire to spend that much on one park (and it's really hard to blame them, because they get tons of people as it is and I don't think an expansion would really be able to ever bring in enough new people to be worthwhile).
From an operations sense, the park is as big as it's ever going to get unless suddenly an extra million or so people show up at the park on a consistent basis for the next decade regardless of CapEx, which isn't happening
Favorite Wood Coasters: The Voyage, Ravine Flyer II, Thunderhead, Balder Favorite Steel: Voltron Nevera, Steel Vengeance, Expedition GeForce, Olympia Looping Parks visited: 232, Coasters Ridden: Steel: 894, Wood: 179, Total: 1073
The area they showed in the snap chat is decievingly smaller than anticipated. They tore out half the queue and exit ramp. The main facade is still up.
Does anyone else think Joker could've gone behind the Southwest Territory facades/Arcade/Coldstone?
Not sure if it'd fit or not (They might have to modify the facades or remove them completely) but it seems more logical (If possible) than slapping it in the middle of the pathway
I like it's placement (mainly cause it's next to Batman) but really didn't expect it there. I wish we had better renderings to really show it off. Of course SFGAdv got it "twice" but we don't. I'm sorry, it's better than nothing but ours are kinda bad haha. I really thought we'd see the 4D come along side demon & JLBFM or along JL & AE/service road. But then tech there would be two attractions side by side themed to the joker.
As to the space issue, the park technically doesn't need more space. Parking garages are also always an option, though extremely unlikely. I could see it happening if the suburbs go through another growth spurt like the 1990s-2000s. That could open up the water park to further expansion, room for a longer coaster, and would likely make the walk far less dreadful from the back of the lot.
I'm happy each park is putting in the time so early on. Wouldn't that be great if it's actually open opening day? Oh wait this isn't the wish list thread. (When is that btw has it been announced?)
For the opening of joker, yeah that's what she said they always aim for "spring" but what about opening day for the park? I'm going to drag con in LA which means I'll be visiting SFMM in may. I wanna start planning that asap but don't wanna miss opening day cause I never have. Which I know is silly to some butttt it's a tradition since I was a kid.
gottastrata33 wrote:For the opening of joker, yeah that's what she said they always aim for "spring" but what about opening day for the park? I'm going to drag con in LA which means I'll be visiting SFMM in may. I wanna start planning that asap but don't wanna miss opening day cause I never have. Which I know is silly to some butttt it's a tradition since I was a kid.
YAAS DRAG CON!!
I'm sure opening day will be in April again next year just as it has been.
gottastrata33 wrote:For the opening of joker, yeah that's what she said they always aim for "spring" but what about opening day for the park? I'm going to drag con in LA which means I'll be visiting SFMM in may. I wanna start planning that asap but don't wanna miss opening day cause I never have. Which I know is silly to some butttt it's a tradition since I was a kid.
The bonus "Bring A Friend Free" ticket for 2017 starts on April 29th. So that's either opening day, or they're opening the weekend earlier and not letting you use the ticket that day.
I agree just cause they're so chaotic but for some of my cheap friends & family who wont go otherwise, it works for them. Apparently the last one wasnt bad at all.