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Postby great america fan on October 1st, 2016, 11:01 am
Chitown wrote:Let's go over this.

1. Land locked park
2. About to be a 15 coaster park
3. Decent amount of flats

Basically, what you have is a sardine box. Unless you want 5 plus things removed for a huge coaster like Raging Bull, it isn't going to happen. They have to remove two rides just to put in Joker.


The park is Not land locked there's plenty of land still available, there's just no good way to get to it all there's a ton of land by the employee parking lot the problem is six flags would have to spend money to move the buildings around which they don't want to do.
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Postby Wisco Woody on October 1st, 2016, 11:08 am
Uh, moving buildings around and finding new parking lot space? DO you have any idea how expensive that is and how long that takes? Unfortunately the Park is very, VERY landlocked. People say Cedar Point has a space issue, take a look at Great America. For years they've wanted to put a coaster at the front of the Park, like when they tried for Chang/Green Lantern or were in talks for a 2nd Mack coaster, but now to accomplish this they will have to remove Whizzer, and probably both the Pictorium and Hometown Fun Machine as well.
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Postby staticshadows on October 1st, 2016, 12:13 pm
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Postby anewman35 on October 1st, 2016, 12:14 pm
Space is AN issue, but it's not THE issue. If they really really cared about having as many rides as possible, they could move some things around and fit more things in (especially if they were more willing to have new rides go over/under existing rides). But I think that's secondary to their worries about cost and staffing.
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Postby anewman35 on October 1st, 2016, 12:17 pm
staticshadows wrote:If they were serious about expanding the park, they would buy these 10.17 acres now and work on buying four homes to connect this property to the parking lot later. Rezoning land, buying houses, and building parking lots is expensive, but would be cheaper than building parking garages.
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That's the thing, though - they're NOT serious about expanding the park (I highly doubt it's something that they've ever even discussed). They don't care. It would cost them tens or hundreds of millions of dollars, and Six Flags corporate shows absolutely no desire to spend that much on one park (and it's really hard to blame them, because they get tons of people as it is and I don't think an expansion would really be able to ever bring in enough new people to be worthwhile).
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Postby FParker185 on October 1st, 2016, 2:26 pm
From an operations sense, the park is as big as it's ever going to get unless suddenly an extra million or so people show up at the park on a consistent basis for the next decade regardless of CapEx, which isn't happening
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Postby Guy_With_A_Stick on October 1st, 2016, 3:12 pm
Back on topic...

The area they showed in the snap chat is decievingly smaller than anticipated. They tore out half the queue and exit ramp. The main facade is still up.

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Postby RollingCoasting on October 1st, 2016, 5:29 pm
Does anyone else think Joker could've gone behind the Southwest Territory facades/Arcade/Coldstone?

Not sure if it'd fit or not (They might have to modify the facades or remove them completely) but it seems more logical (If possible) than slapping it in the middle of the pathway
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Postby CoastsToCoasters on October 1st, 2016, 5:49 pm
I like it's placement (mainly cause it's next to Batman) but really didn't expect it there. I wish we had better renderings to really show it off. Of course SFGAdv got it "twice" but we don't. I'm sorry, it's better than nothing but ours are kinda bad haha. I really thought we'd see the 4D come along side demon & JLBFM or along JL & AE/service road. But then tech there would be two attractions side by side themed to the joker.
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Postby RobSFGAm on October 1st, 2016, 6:48 pm
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Postby SFGAmFan12 on October 1st, 2016, 8:18 pm
As to the space issue, the park technically doesn't need more space. Parking garages are also always an option, though extremely unlikely. I could see it happening if the suburbs go through another growth spurt like the 1990s-2000s. That could open up the water park to further expansion, room for a longer coaster, and would likely make the walk far less dreadful from the back of the lot.
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Postby CoastsToCoasters on October 1st, 2016, 9:43 pm
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Postby RobSFGAm on October 1st, 2016, 10:16 pm
gottastrata33 wrote:The images don't show on here or Tapatalk.

I posted and relinked to a different photo site...see if that worked.
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Postby RollingCoasting on October 1st, 2016, 10:46 pm
Works for me now
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Postby staticshadows on October 1st, 2016, 10:52 pm
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Postby Guy_With_A_Stick on October 1st, 2016, 11:24 pm
It's actually pretty gravely. I doubt they'll tear the bridge down this year

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Postby staticshadows on October 2nd, 2016, 2:31 pm
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Postby CoastsToCoasters on October 2nd, 2016, 5:04 pm
I'm happy each park is putting in the time so early on. Wouldn't that be great if it's actually open opening day? Oh wait this isn't the wish list thread. (When is that btw has it been announced?)
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Postby Guy_With_A_Stick on October 2nd, 2016, 5:27 pm
In the ACE interview, I think they said they're aiming for the week before memorial day.

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Postby CoastsToCoasters on October 2nd, 2016, 6:46 pm
For the opening of joker, yeah that's what she said they always aim for "spring" but what about opening day for the park? I'm going to drag con in LA which means I'll be visiting SFMM in may. I wanna start planning that asap but don't wanna miss opening day cause I never have. Which I know is silly to some butttt it's a tradition since I was a kid.
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Postby ChicagoCoasterGuy on October 2nd, 2016, 6:49 pm
gottastrata33 wrote:For the opening of joker, yeah that's what she said they always aim for "spring" but what about opening day for the park? I'm going to drag con in LA which means I'll be visiting SFMM in may. I wanna start planning that asap but don't wanna miss opening day cause I never have. Which I know is silly to some butttt it's a tradition since I was a kid.


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I'm sure opening day will be in April again next year just as it has been.


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Postby anewman35 on October 3rd, 2016, 7:58 pm
gottastrata33 wrote:For the opening of joker, yeah that's what she said they always aim for "spring" but what about opening day for the park? I'm going to drag con in LA which means I'll be visiting SFMM in may. I wanna start planning that asap but don't wanna miss opening day cause I never have. Which I know is silly to some butttt it's a tradition since I was a kid.


The bonus "Bring A Friend Free" ticket for 2017 starts on April 29th. So that's either opening day, or they're opening the weekend earlier and not letting you use the ticket that day.
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Postby CoastsToCoasters on October 3rd, 2016, 9:40 pm
?$&/! :/ yikes welllll that sucks. I was hoping opening day was May 6th. Drag con is April 29 so I was planning on goin to SFMM the 30th.
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Postby RollingCoasting on October 4th, 2016, 12:04 am
I wish they would never do bring a friend for free
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Postby CoastsToCoasters on October 4th, 2016, 12:48 am
I agree just cause they're so chaotic but for some of my cheap friends & family who wont go otherwise, it works for them. Apparently the last one wasnt bad at all.
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