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Postby bigb7965 on June 24th, 2008, 5:00 pm
So screamscape's "sources" have confirmed that SFMM will be getting one of the two GCI coasters for six flags in 2009(RCDB still says that the new coaster will be steel :? ) .. as if MM needs another coaster... :roll:


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what pisses me off is the fact that Six flags is ignoring their parks and giving most of the attention to SFMM and SFGAdv . i mean what about SFKK. half the park is closed and six flags doesn't be seeming to make any effort to fix the problems while SFMM. is getting new coasters. almost every 1-2 years. what i can understand is the fact that there is a lot of competition out in california so SFMM needs to attract more guests....

yeah...
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Postby Coaster Justin on June 24th, 2008, 5:09 pm
I am also angry about this. Like Magic Mountain needs a new coaster, all they have is 15 other coasters. I say add some more flats in the park that would cost less money and get more families.

Six Flags America could use something assuming Six Flags is going to keep that park for the next 5 years.

Great Escape really needs something. I actually think The Dark Knight should go where NaCAC was.

La Ronde and Six Flags Mexico are also in need of Something.

What actually amazes me about all the news and rumors is that Six Flags Hasn't said anything about Selling New Orleans.
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Postby FParker185 on June 24th, 2008, 5:21 pm
I dont think Six Flags owns SFNO, it was a lease/management deal.

Also LaRonde got Goliath fairly recently.
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Postby bigb7965 on June 24th, 2008, 7:12 pm
CoasterBoy wrote:What actually amazes me about all the news and rumors is that Six Flags Hasn't said anything about Selling New Orleans.


it was sold to southern star amusements and is now called Legend City Adventure Park

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Postby cowboy1192 on June 24th, 2008, 9:29 pm
I feel ya brotha... But I already made a topic about this...
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Postby bigb7965 on June 24th, 2008, 10:19 pm
newsplusnotes wrote:So apparently at a recent ACE event CEO of Six Flags, Inc., Mark Shapiro, let the cat out of the bag and mentioned that Six Flags Magic Mountain will be adding a Great Coasters International wooden coaster for 2009.

Okay that was sorta already known, but certainly not confirmed. However, what was news to me is that he said it'll be themed to the Terminator franchise!

There is some sense in there, though. Terminator: Salvation is set to come out in 2009 starting Christian Bale instead of the Governator - so there will be a very current media tie in for the ride.

But still! A wooden coaster themed to the Terminator? I don't see it. At all. Six Flags' tie in to the Dark Knight worked because Batman was already all over the parks and it was indoors and themed. Evel Knievel made no sense as a wooden coaster but at least the man was thrill seeker so in a vague sense there's a connection.

But Terminator and a classic style wooden thriller? I don't see it. Do you guys? Leave a comment...
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Postby UWW-10 on June 24th, 2008, 11:15 pm
I personally don't see SFA or SFKK staying around much longer

The last major investment to SFA was Superman in 2002 (I believe)...and they can't seem to upkeep what they have now.

And I just returned from a visit to SFKK...the only park that rebels against the new neon yellow uniform. I asked a lead why the park didn't receive the new uniforms and his response was "Management said we had so many leftover old uniforms that it would have been a waste to throw those out and get the new ones"...which seems odd, because the uniform change was a company decision, not park based (also not to mention the closed off section)
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Postby themanoftheland8 on June 25th, 2008, 12:28 am
Last time I checked... (Now, keep in mind, I'm a little behind...) Isn't there an extra TDK track laying around somewhere?

Could this be possible for SFMM?
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Postby cowboy1192 on June 25th, 2008, 12:41 am
CoasterBoy wrote:I am also angry about this. Like Magic Mountain needs a new coaster, all they have is 15 other coasters. I say add some more flats in the park that would cost less money and get more families.

Six Flags America could use something assuming Six Flags is going to keep that park for the next 5 years.

Great Escape really needs something. I actually think The Dark Knight should go where NaCAC was.

La Ronde and Six Flags Mexico are also in need of Something.

What actually amazes me about all the news and rumors is that Six Flags Hasn't said anything about Selling New Orleans.



Uhhhh... La Ronde just got the B&M Hyper Goliath...
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Postby bigb7965 on June 25th, 2008, 6:54 am
themanoftheland8 wrote:Last time I checked... (Now, keep in mind, I'm a little behind...) Isn't there an extra TDK track laying around somewhere?

Could this be possible for SFMM?



no because of all the negative feedback from the GP on SFGAdv 's dark knight. they aren't even going to bother
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Postby cycamps on June 25th, 2008, 11:45 am
I agree with what bigb7965 said about SFMM always getting new coasters. I think that Great Escape, Kentucky Kingdom, SF America, and SF Mexico could use a new coaster more than SFMM. However, SF Mexico doesn't really have any competition, so they're probably the least of corporate's worries.
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Postby cowboy1192 on June 25th, 2008, 2:35 pm
bigb7965 wrote:
newsplusnotes wrote:So apparently at a recent ACE event CEO of Six Flags, Inc., Mark Shapiro, let the cat out of the bag and mentioned that Six Flags Magic Mountain will be adding a Great Coasters International wooden coaster for 2009.

Okay that was sorta already known, but certainly not confirmed. However, what was news to me is that he said it'll be themed to the Terminator franchise!

There is some sense in there, though. Terminator: Salvation is set to come out in 2009 starting Christian Bale instead of the Governator - so there will be a very current media tie in for the ride.

But still! A wooden coaster themed to the Terminator? I don't see it. At all. Six Flags' tie in to the Dark Knight worked because Batman was already all over the parks and it was indoors and themed. Evel Knievel made no sense as a wooden coaster but at least the man was thrill seeker so in a vague sense there's a connection.

But Terminator and a classic style wooden thriller? I don't see it. Do you guys? Leave a comment...




So thier getting a wooden coaster named terminator... Odd... I can see it in place of Psyclone or Flashback though.
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Postby FParker185 on June 25th, 2008, 9:59 pm
SFNE's Dark Knight is bought and paid for, it's going to go somewhere.
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Postby Bob O on June 26th, 2008, 12:34 pm
I also see no way to connect a Terminator movie to a wooden coaster, escpecially at a SF park which has a lousy track record of properly theming rides.

And has anyone contacted the company that owns the right to the Terminator franchise to see if there is any truth to this??? Escpecially since there already is a Terminator show at Universal and im guessing the company that owns theTerminator rights would much to work with a company that has a record of building immersive rides, and that SURE ISNT SF!!!

I hope the Terminator part of this rumor is wrong!!!!! I would much perfer a upcoming Terminator movie have a tie-in with a theme park that can properly build a attraction.
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Postby Coaster Justin on June 26th, 2008, 9:07 pm
I'm reminded on In The Loop where they said the names of rides don't matter.

After a Wooden Coaster themed to Evel Knieval
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And a Wooden Coaster themed to Terminator

I think it does matter with these cases.

My Theory on this is that Shapiro Picks the names for their BIG rides first and then Park Managers pick the rides?

OR

The Parks pick the names of the rides and Shapiro picks the Rides that are going to each park. I have more faith in this one. I don't think... Make that Hope that Six Flags Great America Management is dumb enough to not know they had a mouse already.
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Postby Jerrykoala2112 on June 29th, 2008, 11:24 pm
Well, I think they give the more coasters to the more popular parks, Magic Mountain is very popular, and so is Great Adbenture, they are by the biggest cities in America. Our Six Flags is by Chicago and that is why ours is pretty popular too. Kentucky Kingdom isnt by a very large city, and after that accident with Superman lst year, that park will prbably be sold soon.
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Postby cowboy1192 on June 30th, 2008, 12:01 pm
^ Your right with the Large cities, but I dont see SFKK being sold anytime soon, even with the incident last year.

But you know I can actually see a Terminator wooden coaster...

If it was like the Voyage with silver steel supports, and then they painted the wood on the track black or something. Then the station would have incredibly heavy theming like BTR... It could be done.
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Postby Bob O on June 30th, 2008, 12:20 pm
Yes it could be done, and will suck!!!!!
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Postby tp41190 on June 30th, 2008, 10:49 pm
SFMM has competition...SFKK, SFGAm, SFA do not.
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Postby Chitown on July 1st, 2008, 12:27 am
SFKK doesn't have competition?

Ever hear of Holiday World, King's Island, and Beech Bend?
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Postby FParker185 on July 1st, 2008, 6:30 pm
SFA also loosely has competition with the seaside parks in Maryland along with BGW/PKD probably at the edge of their market range.
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Postby w00dland on July 7th, 2008, 12:35 pm
PKD is the biggest competition for SFA. Having family in the area I can say that they always choose PKD over SFA because they feel safer at King's Dominion. Apparently more teenagers visit SFA and more families visit PKD, go figure.
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Postby cowboy1192 on July 7th, 2008, 2:08 pm
Bob O wrote:Yes it could be done, and will suck!!!!!


How would it suck? I mean, its just a theme. It doesnt mean the ride will be terrible because of the theme of the ride... If its a sweet coaster like El Toro and has a kick *** atmosphere, it could be descent...
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