The millenium flyer trains

by **srossfne** on July 27th, 2003, 1:45 pm

I dont know what and how much you know about these trains but here goes.Iam wondering what they are like, does anyone like them, are they better then the older trains, are they smoother.Also i was wonder does villian still have these trains. Is villain a good coaster, i would like to know because iam going to SFWOA in aug. thanks.

R.I.P. Deja Vu 10/07/01-10/28/07

The trains have 1 row per car so it makes it easier for the train to make tight turns and such. It isnt my favorite style of woodie coaster trains. The give an okay ride. I like the PTC trains better. Villain doesnt have millennium flyer trains, it has Gerstlauer trains. I cant say if its good or not because I havent been to SFWoA. I might go there after I get done with CP.

by **T_Biggs** on July 27th, 2003, 4:12 pm

If you're looking for an opinion on SFWoA's modern woodie trains, they are decent. The problem with them is the track they run on. Otherwise you'll have adequet leg room, which is the most important thing in coasters with lap bars.

by **coasterzak** on July 28th, 2003, 12:07 am

SFWoA's woodie trains are horrible G-Trains, 70% plastic. I would prefer other trains anyday. If you have any questions just PM me, SFWoA is my homepark.

by **srossfne** on July 30th, 2003, 6:38 pm

OK thanks, i dont know much about wooden coasters, all i know is the ones i have been to at SF parks are horrible, and the 2 at Dorney park i thought were horrible.I really wanna go to Ohio this summer in aug, and i thought that villian looked like it could be my favorite wooden coaster and my feelings about SF wooden coasters would change, but i guess iam wrong, iam so disappointed.

by **coasterzak** on July 30th, 2003, 9:31 pm

Hey, Villain definitely won't do that for you... but the Big Dipper could if you rode it in the front seat! That is one of the best wooden coasters I have ever been on. It doesn't run G-Trains! :wink:

by **T_Biggs** on July 31st, 2003, 9:55 am

I didn't ride Big Dipper in front seat, and if you don't, there is absolutly no chance you'll like any SFWoA woodies. The only one I liked was the second half of Raging Wolf Bobs, and only because it had some really wicked turns, but no air. Otherwise, Big Dipper was washboarding a bit, Villian washboarded way too much, and the first half of Bobs was almost as bad as my rides on Gwazi at BGT, which were my worst coaster rides ever. Expect absolutly nothing from SFWoA wood, and you'll get a little out of the second half of Bobs, and some out of Big Dipper. Otherwise, no offense Zak, they suck.

by **goldmember** on July 31st, 2003, 11:02 am

What was so bad about Gwazi Biggs?

by **T_Biggs** on July 31st, 2003, 12:22 pm

Maybe I hit it on a very bad day, it doesn't matter to me, but it sucked. In terms of smoothness, it is to Shockwave what Shockwave was to Raging Bull. The only good thing about it was the way it looks from the ground. It's one of the coolest looking woodies in the world. Too bad it didn't ride that way for me.

by **goldmember** on July 31st, 2003, 12:40 pm

Wow, thats pretty rough. I always thought that it was one of the coolest looking wooden rides out there too. Its dissapointin when something looks like its going to be great but then it sucks. Mean Streak comes to mind right away.

by **coasterzak** on July 31st, 2003, 10:21 pm

No offense taken on the woodies, you just obviously didn't ride in the front car.

by **highroller13** on July 31st, 2003, 11:53 pm

T_Biggs wrote:Maybe I hit it on a very bad day, it doesn't matter to me, but it sucked. In terms of smoothness, it is to Shockwave what Shockwave was to Raging Bull. The only good thing about it was the way it looks from the ground. It's one of the coolest looking woodies in the world. Too bad it didn't ride that way for me.

Shocewave looked really smooth iun the video of it on this site. But I don't know because it was closed when I went. Does anybody know if it was open during fright fest?

by **coastrcorey** on August 1st, 2003, 9:05 am

Shockwave's deconstruction began in late September, so no, it wouldn't have been open... Wow, that seems like just yesterday, and now it's almost a year later!

by **coasterzak** on August 1st, 2003, 10:59 am

I remember when I visited in early August I missed it by just a week or two.

R.I.P. Deja Vu 10/07/01-10/28/07

MS looks awesome but it sucked. This guy I know said it was awesome the first year it opened. I find that hard to beleive.

by **highroller13** on August 1st, 2003, 11:25 pm

coasterzak wrote:I remember when I visited in early August I missed it by just a week or two.

Me too and my friend never got to ride it. evytime went something happened

by **goldmember** on August 2nd, 2003, 7:53 am

SFGAmfreak4life wrote:MS looks awesome but it sucked. This guy I know said it was awesome the first year it opened. I find that hard to beleive.

It probably was an awesome ride when it first opened. They didn't have all of those trims on the drop that ruin the ride now.

R.I.P. Deja Vu 10/07/01-10/28/07

Without the trims it would have been even rougher than it is now. I dont know what it was really like back when it opened. Im just making a guess.

by **goldmember** on August 2nd, 2003, 11:48 am

When I rode it, it didn't feel very rough to me. All I noticed was that I was in the back car and I wasn't getting any airtime. It didn't feel any rougher than other wood coasters to me. Maybe I caught it on a good day or something.

by **coasterzak** on August 3rd, 2003, 9:50 pm

I heard it was an awesome coaster too! I wonder if it was ever as good as Beast! Nah...

by **goldmember** on August 4th, 2003, 11:03 am

Too bad Mean Streak sucks now. As for the Beast, I've never been on it.

by **srossfne** on August 6th, 2003, 6:58 pm

I dont understand how a caoster suck that has PTC's on it, i mean i didnt really care for hercules, but it wasnt that bad, just got dizzy. I love PTC's they are the best that i have been on so far.

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