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Postby kahmooza on October 19th, 2005, 12:35 am
Wow! Wilma becomes a Cat 4 with 150mph winds. Moving WNW at 8mph. Looks like a hit on southern florida, but I don't agree with that projected path. I think it will hit farher west like the panhandle, and will land at a Cat 3.

Imagine what this storm will do to Cuba at this intesity!

It was a tropical storm just 24hrs ago...

http://www.weather.com/maps/news/atlsto ... mated.html
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Postby Chitown on October 19th, 2005, 12:57 am
My mother and grandmother live in Sarasota. I really hope this hurricane doesn't hit the western Florida coast.
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Postby kahmooza on October 19th, 2005, 1:01 am
Thats a good point Chi. Its not often one comes into Florida from the west.

This one could pound its way up the east coast like several have this year...
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Postby EagleFan344 on October 19th, 2005, 1:21 am
I officially appoint Kahmooza SFGAm World Weatherman.

And since I probably dont have the proper authority to do it, help me out mods.
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Postby kahmooza on October 19th, 2005, 1:43 am
That title belongs to Aero, besides I don't want it, but thanks anyways.

This one definetly amazes me though. I'm just sitting here watching it jump categories every hour. In a matter of nine hours it went from a tropical storm to a Cat 5. I'm sure most people went to sleep last night not even aware of this storm. Now they are being threatened with a 18ft storm surge! 175mph SUSTAINED winds! Already second most intese storm on record. This is going to put the earlier 'canes this year to shame. In fact, this one might even invent a new Category.

http://www.weather.com/newscenter/tropical/?from=wxcenter_news

Oh and by the way, this one officially ties the record of most named storms ever. NOW can we start a global warming thread? Or are there still non believers? :roll:

Time to "hunker down" again Florida.
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Postby Aero737 on October 19th, 2005, 2:39 am
This storm is AMAZING, it dropped 76 millibars in 12 hours, I never expected that.

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This one even cought the hurricane hunters off gaurd who were flying at a low altitude and had to initiate an emergency climb to a higher, safer altitude.


Also, Split this thread from Rita.
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Postby Aero737 on October 19th, 2005, 3:04 am
UPDATE

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WTNT64 KNHC 190629
TCUAT4
HURRICANE WILMA TROPICAL CYCLONE UPDATE
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
230 AM EDT WED OCT 19 2005
DATA FROM A RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT INDICATE THAT HURRICANE WILMA
HAS BECOME AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS CATEGORY FIVE HURRICANE ON THE
SAFFIR-SIMPSON HURRICANE SCALE. THE RECONNAISSANCE PLANE MEASURED
175 MPH WINDS AND ESTIMATED A MINIMUM PRESSURE OF 892 MB. THIS IS
THE LOWEST PRESSURE OBSERVED IN 2005 AND IS EQUIVALENT TO THE
MINIMUM PRESSURE OF THE 1935 LABOR DAY HURRICANE IN THE FLORIDA
KEYS.

FORECASTER AVILA



Possibly record breaking Pressure!

892 - this is lower than Katrina and Rita!

My jaw is almost on the desk.
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Postby kahmooza on October 19th, 2005, 3:15 am
^ Mine has been all night.

This is bad, hurricanes like this don't move from west to east in FL so they are less prepared. Plus this storm came out of nowhere. From a tropical storm to the strongest Cat 5 since the 30's in ONE DAY!

Its path is just a reciepe for disaster, it seems the eye might not even pass over any land before sinking the keys.
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Postby Aero737 on October 19th, 2005, 3:18 am
While I don't think it will maintain this pressure for long, I do think this was a huge step in the development cycle and it probably wont shy too far below cat 4 after this.
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Postby Do I Know You on October 19th, 2005, 4:51 am
Yay, that's just what I needed.
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Postby ragingbullchick on October 19th, 2005, 7:40 am
I'm going to BGT Oct. 29th. I hope this doesn't do any damage to the park...
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Postby Aero737 on October 19th, 2005, 10:08 am
Well its the strongest Hurricane ever recorded in the atlantic basin now.


ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE 882 MB
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Postby [jonrev] on October 19th, 2005, 12:29 pm
This looks really bad for Florida.
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Postby kahmooza on October 19th, 2005, 2:15 pm
I officially appoint Kahmooza SFGAm World Weatherman.


Why does everything have to be "official" eaglefan? :wink:
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Postby Galvan on October 19th, 2005, 2:41 pm
I wonder how much the mountains of Western Cuba will effect this storm system...


That is it impacts that area like the projections suggest it might,

Never the less this is a deadly and dangerous storm.
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Postby Galvan on October 21st, 2005, 11:34 am
kahmooza wrote:Oh and by the way, this one officially ties the record of most named storms ever. NOW can we start a global warming thread? Or are there still non believers? :roll:


Thank god your not the official weatherman of this site... especially after a ridiculous statement like that.


The fact is, the area where Wilma developed is a historically active area on the Atlantic Basin, storms form there on a historically regular basis, the sheer fact that 2005 has been a bad year for hurricanes means just that... Its been a bad year for Hurricanes.

Take 1992 for example. The first Hurricane that year was Andrew and that was a catagory 5.

So saying global warming is atributing to these hurricanes is pure nonsense.

Nice Try though. :roll:
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Postby Jamesb58 on October 22nd, 2005, 4:41 pm
Luckly, the storm won't hit Florida has a Cat 5. Probably a Cat 3.

Well, History again was just made. We now have Tropical Storm Alpha.
The first time in history that we went all the way through the list and
now have to use the Greek Alphabet!! With just 1.5 weeks left of
the season.

Luckly, Tropical Storm Alpha won't hit the US!!
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Postby kahmooza on November 27th, 2005, 8:48 am
Galvan316 wrote:
kahmooza wrote:Oh and by the way, this one officially ties the record of most named storms ever. NOW can we start a global warming thread? Or are there still non believers? :roll:


Thank god your not the official weatherman of this site... especially after a ridiculous statement like that.


The fact is, the area where Wilma developed is a historically active area on the Atlantic Basin, storms form there on a historically regular basis, the sheer fact that 2005 has been a bad year for hurricanes means just that... Its been a bad year for Hurricanes.

Take 1992 for example. The first Hurricane that year was Andrew and that was a catagory 5.

So saying global warming is atributing to these hurricanes is pure nonsense.

Nice Try though. :roll:


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Postby Galvan on November 27th, 2005, 11:45 am
That article really doesnt tell me anything i dont know already...
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Postby kahmooza on November 28th, 2005, 10:38 am
Attributing global warming to the hurricanes is not really "nonsense". Earlier this year we had a debate and I stuck by my theory even though nobody really put 2 and 2 together like I did. Now, not even 6 months later, even foreign politicians our acknowledging we can't ignore this any longer.

Seriously though, the US administration needs to realize ignoring this problem will not make it go away. US is one of the leading contributors to this and it isn't fair for the government to ignore it while innocent citizens lose their homes and businesses to the storms resulting from the warming...please read below.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051128/sc_nm/environment_climate_dc

http://news.yahoo.com/fc/world/climate_change
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Postby kahmooza on December 6th, 2005, 4:40 pm
Rising seas have forced 100 people on a Pacific island to move to higher ground in what may be the first example of a village formally displaced because of modern global warming, a U.N. report said on Monday. With coconut palms on the coast already standing in water, inhabitants in the Lateu settlement on Tegua island in Vanuatu started dismantling their wooden homes in August and moved about 600 yards inland.

http://news.yahoo.com/fc/World/Climate_Change/
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Postby CoasterDude12-2 on December 11th, 2005, 1:06 am
Perhaps the Earth is warming naturally and overpopulation, greenhouse, and pollution are all myths.
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Postby kahmooza on February 13th, 2006, 2:11 am
RECORD SNOWFALL IN CENTRAL PARK! 26.9 INCHES

It's funny. After I watched "The Day After Tomorrow"; even I couldn't imagine what a snowfall of this magnitude could have on NYC. I've only been there during the summer seasons so I couldn't tell you what it's like to be in a snowstorm there.

Let me tell any of you affected by this storm...My thoughts are with you. Good luck digging out and I hope it gets warm there soon to help you out.

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Postby Aero737 on February 13th, 2006, 1:16 pm
I don't think that the record snowfall was a result of global warming, it was just a powerful nor'easter. The Eastern Seaboard is reguraly slammed by powerful storms. 10+ inch snowfalls are a lot more common in New York than they are in Chicago.

Coasterdude12-2, I know it's late, but What makes you think that overpopulation is a myth? Earth has it's carrying capcaity, and we've exceeded it in some regions. Greenhouse gasses are definatly going to make an impact on our atmosphere. CO2 abosorbs a certain wavelength of the light spectrum. This absorbed energy is then transfered to heat, it works just like Ozone, in the fact that it warms the atmosphere (the stratosphere acually warms with height from Ozone). The more CO2 we have then the more energy will be trapped and the warmer earth gets.
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Postby Galvan on February 13th, 2006, 1:59 pm
Explain this, if global warming is effecting all corners of the globe, then why are many European, Russian, and Indian cities are enduring a record cold winter that hasnt been seen since the late part of the 19th Century. In Moscow recently, the temperature was -22 Degrees for 3 days straight. Other European capitals are also having record cold as well.

Last years hurricane season while very bad, could have very well happened in 1885 instead of 2005.
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