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Postby Drkstarboard on October 20th, 2004, 3:13 pm
To make a long story shrt. When my cousins and my family and I went to SFGAm, my littler cousin asked why V2 is named V2. Of course I gave him the most obvious answer. Then my uncle said that there was a space shuttle named V2 so I wonder....

Since a space shuttle launchs into space. Do you think SFGAm named V2 for this reason ( not the most obvious reason)? Since V2 is a launching ride I just figured maybe it was named also after the V2 space shuttle.

Hope that made sense. :?
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Postby planea380 on October 20th, 2004, 3:28 pm
It was actually the V2 rocket
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Postby sfgam on October 20th, 2004, 3:29 pm
i think it is just a coencidence, but mabye that is why they came up with the nickname..

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Postby Drkstarboard on October 20th, 2004, 3:30 pm
Almost the same differance
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Postby mr. dejavu on October 20th, 2004, 3:46 pm
"Coincidence? I think not."
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Postby planea380 on October 20th, 2004, 3:47 pm
It is a conincidence, if it wasnt they would have called it V2 The rocket Coaster

BTW a space shuttle and a rocket are whole different things.
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Postby Drkstarboard on October 20th, 2004, 3:51 pm
They both go into space. SFGAm wouldn't call it V2 the rocket coaster. thats a dumb name.
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Postby Aero737 on October 20th, 2004, 3:55 pm
No, It is named for the scientific idea of 'Vertical Velocity'. When you get to a Meteorology/Physics class you will understand.

Meteorological Explination: Vertical Velocity on the 700 MB plot
Physics Explination:Expressing Motion in Vectors

And the V2 rocket was a sovied/german made rocket that was used in WWII/the cold war. It was the first missle to be considerd a "cruise missel". I don't think Six Flags would name a coaster after a weapon of mass destruction.

Information on the V2 rocket: V2 Rocket in WWII
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Postby planea380 on October 20th, 2004, 3:55 pm
They are completly different, in your world if they are the same thing I guess Wooden Coasters and Stell Coasters. And put some logic into your post cause a Space Shuttle is like a plane in space in simple language that your puniny mind can understand. BTW Vertical Velocity and V2 are completely different things.
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Postby Drkstarboard on October 20th, 2004, 3:59 pm
Im in 8th grade so we just started physics.

and Planea. I'm already on the mod's strike 2 list. I don't need another argument.
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Postby Aero737 on October 20th, 2004, 3:59 pm
Read my edited post for more details.
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Postby RagingBullFan on October 20th, 2004, 4:00 pm
Just as a side note NASA has been working with Six Flags to look at the possibility of using LIM/LSM to help launch a future generation shuttle into space. LIM/LSM would greatly reduce the need for Rocket propellent, since most is used in the early stages of liftoff.

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Postby planea380 on October 20th, 2004, 4:09 pm
I heard that before but I didn't know it was Six Flags, they should work with Premier on that. THooses Maglev launches on Mummy are awsome.
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Postby greatamerica2003 on October 20th, 2004, 4:54 pm
Technically, the "2" in "V2" is actually supposed to be interpeted as "Squared" Since the real name of the ride is "Vertical Velocity" its more of a play on words since there are 2 letter V's in the title.

You guys are thinking WAY too deep into this.
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Postby DejaVu The Ride on October 20th, 2004, 5:07 pm
I always took the Name Vertical Velocity too literally and it means "Vertical Speed" to me. Velocity means "speed".
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Postby planea380 on October 20th, 2004, 5:11 pm
Im with him I never thought of that untill today but eh.
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Postby twixmix0303 on October 20th, 2004, 5:44 pm
I'm with greatamerica2003 on this one.
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Postby thecoasterguy on October 20th, 2004, 6:09 pm
Tom Crean - Traitor wrote:Just as a side note NASA has been working with Six Flags to look at the possibility of using LIM/LSM to help launch a future generation shuttle into space. LIM/LSM would greatly reduce the need for Rocket propellent, since most is used in the early stages of liftoff.

Vertical Velocity, ah fun with Physics.

Remember, There is no such thing as Deceleration. :)


NASA hasn't been working with Six Flags. They developed the initial prototype and let it become public knowledge so that they could begin using the technology when it became more stable. Six Flags just happens to be one of the places that the technology may be found at.

There are also trains in Asia that are based on the same technology.
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Postby Drkstarboard on October 20th, 2004, 7:41 pm
I know that it is a play on words. I'm just wondering if it's cuincidental, or what
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Postby mr. dejavu on October 20th, 2004, 8:11 pm
Watch your grammar, it's coincidental (I think, but you get the point). Yeah, I'm with greatamerica2003 on this one.
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Postby Aero737 on October 20th, 2004, 8:56 pm
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Postby RagingBullFan on October 20th, 2004, 9:11 pm
thecoasterguy wrote:NASA hasn't been working with Six Flags. They developed the initial prototype and let it become public knowledge so that they could begin using the technology when it became more stable. Six Flags just happens to be one of the places that the technology may be found at.

There are also trains in Asia that are based on the same technology.


They worked together on Superman : The Escape, I've got the video of SFMM's PR guy saying that they were working with NASA on the technology.
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Postby greatamerica2003 on October 20th, 2004, 9:18 pm
K that doesn't make any sense. Why would Six Flags even have a hand in research and development? INTAMIN built and engineered the ride, not Six Flags. They simply forked over the cash for it.

Doesn't make sense to me.

Oh, and thanks to those of you who sided with me on the V2 issue. I'm having a kegger, and you are all invited. :P
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Postby SFGAmfreak4life on October 20th, 2004, 9:40 pm
greatamerica2003 wrote:Technically, the "2" in "V2" is actually supposed to be interpeted as "Squared" Since the real name of the ride is "Vertical Velocity" its more of a play on words since there are 2 letter V's in the title.

You guys are thinking WAY too deep into this.


I agree with you. Also when I first thought about it when it opened I figured it was basically because it has 2 vertical towers.

I dont think SF would bother with associating a ride name with something technical like a rocket.
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Postby thecoasterguy on October 20th, 2004, 10:53 pm
Tom Crean - Traitor wrote:They worked together on Superman : The Escape, I've got the video of SFMM's PR guy saying that they were working with NASA on the technology.


Considering that both Outer Limits: Flight of Fear rides had already been open a year at that point (both of these were intended to open sooner too. Didn't OL:FOF win "Best of Show" or something at IAAPA in '95?), Six Flags can't claim to have the first magnetically launched rides. Perhaps they could claim the first LSM-launched ride, although LSM's have proven to be technically inferior to LIMs.

greatamerica2003 wrote:Why would Six Flags even have a hand in research and development? INTAMIN built and engineered the ride, not Six Flags. They simply forked over the cash for it.


Agreed. Premier and Intamin did the work on designing the systems and Six Flags just ended up getting the rides. The PR person said that they worked together with NASA to develop the ride because the general public doesn't know the difference between Intamin and Six Flags.

If you want to get really technical, LIMs were created in the 1950's and 60's as a railway upgrade and opened in places like Japan as early as 1972. Check this out:

http://www.rtri.or.jp/rd/maglev/html/english/ml100_E.html

If I recall correctly, NASA saw that technology and started to play with it, but didn't have the money to move forward in the direction of launching things (as much as maintaining their motion, which is the main difference between the two technologides. Supposedly, NASA suggested to amusement companies the possibility of using LIM and LSM technology to develop rides that could refine the technology for bursts of speed in a short area.

NASA wants the technology so that they can shoot rockets without having to use so much fuel. That's why the "burst of speed" rides are more important to them than the trains are.

I'm not trying to create a war or anything like that. It's just a common misconception that it is totally a ride thing or even a NASA thing when the history is a lot more than that...

Look up Maglev on Google to find out a ton more, especially if you're curious about the trains that are currently operating.
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