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Postby Ilovthevu' on October 19th, 2004, 9:58 pm
Twinzombie, it sounds like you want to start a fight.

After reading these posts, something makes me mad. It's not that people are getting scared, but that a character would be telling someone to basically get out of Necropolis. Basically, if you are in the park, you can walk in an (public) area for as long as you want.

If I wanted to talk to the trolls and watch them for a half-hour (which I wouldn't do), why couldn't I? If people are calling you (a character) names or throwing something at you, that is when you should be able retaliate. However, if a person isn't doing that, you shouldn't just be making fun of them (which I don't think that you are doing).
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Postby Beef on October 19th, 2004, 9:59 pm
mschulz5 wrote:If you do anything like what you just said, you definitely deserve to get hit.


Wrong, Mshultz. DEAD wrong. WRONG WRONG WRONG.

Listen to yourself! You just said that someone DESERVES to get hit for doing their jobs!

Listen, I've explained this half-a-dozen times, and so have many others, but it apparently hasn't sunk in yet: IF A CHARACTER AT FRIGHT FEST FRIGHTENS OR UNNERVES YOU, HE HAS JUST PERFORMED HIS JOB DUTIES PROPERLY. And besides...I've already TOLD you...If a character tells you to move it along, it's in order to keep traffic through Necropolis running smoothly. You don't have a whole lot of room to complain about a long queue to get into Necropolis if you just stand around once you get there.

Let me reiterate...For you to...

A) Take issue with a character doing his job properly, and / or

B) Go on record as saying there is EVER a justifiable reason to strike an actor in the park (i.e. "He deserved to get hit").

THEN YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM AND YOU SHOULD NOT ATTEND THE EVENT.

Or, if you really have that attitude, then get it out of your system immediately. Pay your admission, and punch the first character you see. That way, you'll be immediately escorted from the premises, we'll get to keep your money and / or season pass, and you cease to be a problem.

I repeat...There is NEVER a justifiable reason to strike a character. EVER. Especially when they're just doing their jobs. Especially when the problem is YOU.

Do you understand yet?

If not, let me put it this way...Keep hitting the Fright Fest characters, and soon there will be no more characters to hit.

It's always the rotten apples that have to spoil the whole bushel.
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Postby coasterdude12 on October 19th, 2004, 10:20 pm
OKay, were all mad, no arguing now, Sfgamworld has had enough of that today
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Postby twinzombie on October 19th, 2004, 10:20 pm
ok, i understand wut u ppl are saying, but i kinda worded that wrong. wut i meant by that whole thing was that i was telling them what would happen to them if they did. i have never been in a fight in my life. i am sry for the way that i said it. i really didnt mean it that way.

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Postby Beef on October 19th, 2004, 10:20 pm
Ilovthevu' wrote:If I wanted to talk to the trolls and watch them for a half-hour (which I wouldn't do), why couldn't I?


Because the Trolls are in a high-traffic thoroughfare. If you want to sit on a bench and watch us for an hour, that's fine. I hope we keep you entertained. We'll certainly do our best. But Necropolis DEPENDS on a specific flow of traffic in order to stay safe and smooth. I should know. I took a break from trolling last year, and I was the asst. lead in Necropolis. When people just "hang around as long as they want", it creats traffic jams and bottlenecks, queues form. At a few points last year, security even had to be on radio relay at both ends of the area doing crowd control.

"Ten just left."

"Letting ten more in...Over."

It's pretty simple to boil it down...All of the issues I'm seeing here have to do with simple consideration for others. Wanna hit a character? Don't. That's not good courtesy. Wanna hang around in Necropolis? Stay as long as you like within reason...But realize that you're potentially depriving someone else of the experience. Don't be selfish or stupid, and everything's fun for everyone.

If people are calling you (a character) names or throwing something at you, that is when you should be able retaliate. However, if a person isn't doing that, you shouldn't just be making fun of them (which I don't think that you are doing).


I don't know how many times I have to say this. Part of being frightening is being intimidating or menacing. IT'S WHAT WE'RE TRAINED TO DO, AND ARE BEING PAID FOR. How fun would it be for everyone if the characters were happy-go-lucky, and handing out flowers to people? It wouldn't be fun at all. Horror movies and monster experiences only work if there's an element of danger present. If Freddy Krueger had the same costume, but instead of slicing up high-schoolers in the boiler room, he went to a cubicle and worked as an accountant...Pfft. There goes the movie.

Tafaba just nailed it. Would you rather have a CHARACTER tell you to move along, or Security? Think about it before you answer with a reflex response.
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Postby punkbunny24242 on October 19th, 2004, 10:24 pm
mschulz5 wrote:
twinzombie wrote:i hate it when ppl say, "ok man thats enough, she's really scared." and then they try to play hero by not letting u by. then they say somthin like, "back off." and i reply, "wut r u gonna do if i dont?" and they say, "i'll kick ur ass." the i say, "go on, take a swing, i dare u. u c there r two of us to defend me and i would love to c the look on ur face when u get arrested."

the part i love is because this big macho guy cant do jack to me


If you do anything like what you just said, you definitely deserve to get hit. That's just stupid to egg someone on like you supposedly do what you just said, then you get hit, and you totally blame it on them. It's your fault in the first place he hit you. I mean scare them, that is totally fine, it's what you are paid to do, but then when you tell them to try and punch you, and they do, it definitely shouldn't be their fault entirely.


1st of all that is TOTAL B.S.!!! He's doing his job... someone says that they are gonna kick his A$$.. he says go on take a swing I dare you (as most of us would say if put in the same situation!) and you say that he would DESERVE to be hit?!?! What is happening to people. Also if I worked there and had some dumb A$$ come up and say that they were going kick my A$$ I would probably taunt them just to see them try and then wave bye~bye blowing kisses as security was dragging them away.
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Postby twinzombie on October 19th, 2004, 10:34 pm
thank god at least some1 understands me. u c, if u were in that situation not once, but many many times, you would say the same as me. as i said b4, i wasnt picking a fight, i was stating what would happen to them if they did. without just coming out and saying, "well kind sir i think we should settle this with our words and im just going to say that i will get u in trouble u big bully." think about if u had at least 12 ppl a day threaten to kick ur a$$. how would u responed?

o i love it when ppl make statements about stuff when they have never experienced it day after day. :: cough cough sniffle sarcasm cough::

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Postby Jamesb58 on October 19th, 2004, 11:36 pm
If people are going to take things like this personally, they shouldn't be
there. If a character came up to me and "harassed" me and was doing a
great job of being his/her character, who cares, they are doing their job
and I'm having a great time being a "target".

It's people that take it personally and get unnerved that ruin it for
everyone in my opinion! And yeah, people also do need to learn that
they shouldn't stay in one place for a long time. Even though I spent
a lot of time in Nacro on Saturday, I didn't spend a ton of time in just
one spot. We would go in for maybe 15-30 minutes, take some photos,
watch people get scared, then leave and come back later.

All I say is, let the characters do their jobs, and don't complain. If you
don't like what they do or take what they do personally, no matter what
they say or do, then FrightFest isn't for you. So, I side with the characters on
this.

Last thing I want to say this evening is, if any of you guys who are
characters for FrightFest are interested in any of the photos that was
taken on Saturday by my friend and I, let me know either by PM or AIM.
I prefer AIM (JamesBeardsley8). Let me know what character you are
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Postby twinzombie on October 19th, 2004, 11:40 pm
very well said
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Postby Stoogie on October 20th, 2004, 12:25 am
OMG! mshulz5 is so dead wrong. I love Fright Fest and all the great entertaining that these people do. I laugh my butt off at all the hopelessly mean losers that harrass the characters. The characters work their butts off in their hot makeup and masks and costumes and it's people like the guy and msshultz5 or whatever her name is that give us people that really appreciate everything that these great entertainers do! Keep up the great work characters!
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Postby Beef on October 20th, 2004, 11:00 am
Thanks to all of you who get it, and who come to the park to enjoy the show in a safe, fun, and responsible manner.

And to everyone who DOESN'T get it...PLEASE STAY HOME.
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Postby mschulz5 on October 20th, 2004, 3:53 pm
Okay, I'm sorry to everyone I offended by my previous post. I am not the kind of person who would ever hit someone, I'm really not. So please do not view me like that, if you could.

My post was misworded a little bit. I said that if he did anything he just said, that he deserved to be hit. I now realize that was wrong, as it is the main duty of your job to scare, scare, and scare some more.

My point, though, was that if you say "Come on, take your best shot!", you are telling the person to hit you. What if the person just decides to follow your orders? Now you can't possibly say that it isn't your fault at all you got hit. Maybe you could say, "look buddy, I'm not trying to start a fight, I'm just doing my job." Then, if he hits you, It is entirely his fault.

I'm sorry if this offends some more people, but this is my opinion and take it how you want to.
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Postby twinzombie on October 20th, 2004, 5:42 pm
man one some1 says take ur best shot, they dont mean hit me. i was telling them wut would happen if they did

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Postby Binks Drake on October 20th, 2004, 5:56 pm
Beef wrote:
mschulz5 wrote:If you do anything like what you just said, you definitely deserve to get hit.


Wrong, Mshultz. DEAD wrong. WRONG WRONG WRONG.

Listen to yourself! You just said that someone DESERVES to get hit for doing their jobs!

Listen, I've explained this half-a-dozen times, and so have many others, but it apparently hasn't sunk in yet: IF A CHARACTER AT FRIGHT FEST FRIGHTENS OR UNNERVES YOU, HE HAS JUST PERFORMED HIS JOB DUTIES PROPERLY. And besides...I've already TOLD you...If a character tells you to move it along, it's in order to keep traffic through Necropolis running smoothly. You don't have a whole lot of room to complain about a long queue to get into Necropolis if you just stand around once you get there.

Let me reiterate...For you to...

A) Take issue with a character doing his job properly, and / or

B) Go on record as saying there is EVER a justifiable reason to strike an actor in the park (i.e. "He deserved to get hit").

THEN YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM AND YOU SHOULD NOT ATTEND THE EVENT.

Or, if you really have that attitude, then get it out of your system immediately. Pay your admission, and punch the first character you see. That way, you'll be immediately escorted from the premises, we'll get to keep your money and / or season pass, and you cease to be a problem.

I repeat...There is NEVER a justifiable reason to strike a character. EVER. Especially when they're just doing their jobs. Especially when the problem is YOU.

Do you understand yet?

If not, let me put it this way...Keep hitting the Fright Fest characters, and soon there will be no more characters to hit.

It's always the rotten apples that have to spoil the whole bushel.


EXCUSE ME? Did you listen to TwinZombie. He just told the man to hit him. Yes, he's doing his job, he is scaring, great whatever, i love Fright fest, but when a character rudely asks someone to hit him, he's in for it, and if i were the judge i would be on linebacker's side.

And about there never being a justifiable reason to strike a character. Guess what, simply by being a character you do not suddenly have undeniable, omnipotent god level powers. Characters are also people! And people cannot always control there emotions. I would never do it, but i'm sure that there have been many justifiable reasons to strike characters in the past.

And he did not say that someone should get hit for doing there job, did you even read linebackers post? Scare don't purposely aggitate guests. He wasn't "frightening you" as you said in your post, he was purposely being a jerk to this guest. he wasn't being scary at all.

I repeat, working for JPM doesn't give you a right to be above all other human beings. Live with it, and drop your superiority complex.
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Postby punkbunny24242 on October 20th, 2004, 6:32 pm
Didn't this whole thing start by twinzombie trying to scare the guests at FRIGHT FEST (my what a strange concept huh?) and someone got pissed and told him to stop doing his job? So what in the heck is he doing at Fright Fest?? The way that I look at it is that twinzombie was doing his job and then they started crap with him. Someone said it before it's like going to the hospital to get stitches and then asking the doctor to stop because you don't like the way it feels. I usually don't get pissed on these boards but I am sick and tired of hearing people whine and cry about the charcters! Stay away from the park during Fright Fest then! It has been pretty much the same for the past 4 or 5 years now so none of this should be a surprise to anyone. I know that they say if little kids can't handle it then leave them home but now we have to say that if your girlfriends/boyfriends can't handle it then leave them home too! My nephew is 11 and he takes what the charcters (trolls mostly.. gotta love ya) dish out to him better then some of you!! :evil:
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Postby yeti_cat on October 20th, 2004, 8:51 pm
Although I agree with most of what has been said regarding GP-Creature relations and how the Creatures are there to be scary, I must say that many of the posts on this topic are quite unnecessary, most of them say the same exact thing over and over.

To put it all simply: The world has two kind of people, dumb/ignorant people, and intelligent/common sensical people. Unfortunately the first category makes up most of the population and the other category has to deal with it.

Great job Creature Crew! You go through alot to do what you do, and as a fellow performer I quite understand. Let it feed your character and do what you do best. Happy scaring!

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Postby nightshade on October 20th, 2004, 11:09 pm
hey its me the other twin zombie.
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Postby punkbunny24242 on October 21st, 2004, 8:07 am
What happened to the last topic where you introduced yourself??
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Postby nightshade on October 21st, 2004, 10:21 am
i dont know
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Postby Beef on October 21st, 2004, 11:27 am
Binks Drake wrote:EXCUSE ME? Did you listen to TwinZombie. He just told the man to hit him. Yes, he's doing his job, he is scaring, great whatever, i love Fright fest, but when a character rudely asks someone to hit him, he's in for it, and if i were the judge i would be on linebacker's side.


Thanks for letting me know which side of the fence you fall on. By taking the position that there is EVER a justifiable reason to strike a character, I feel safe in labeling you as part of the problem. A security risk. You are the type of park guest we dread, we have whole sections of training outlining the best ways to deal with boneheads like you.

It's people like you who will eventually wind up ruining things for everyone. Congratulations.

And about there never being a justifiable reason to strike a character. Guess what, simply by being a character you do not suddenly have undeniable, omnipotent god level powers.


I never said we did. What I DID say was that there is an acceptable level of conduct that's expected of us as professionals...And the largest part of that is to do our jobs properly and within reason. That includes using any safe means necessary to entertain, frighten, and unnerve the guests who have paid for the very privilege of having it happen to them. We're frightening, menacing, and must give the APPEARANCE of being potentially dangerous. If not, there's no show! It's when idiots who have a chip on their shoulder and something to prove assume that the scary man with the axe or the creepy chick in the vampire costume ACTUALLY MEANS THEM HARM that we have a problem.

It is IN OUR CONTRACT that while we are 'on the street' entertaining park guests that we MUST be IN CHARACTER at all times. To "drop character" and tell someone, "Hey, buddy. I'm not kiddin' around, here. Let's move it along," is a FIRING OFFENSE. To STAY IN CHARACTER, be menacing, and say "MOVE", then "Bring it on, tough guy" when someone refuses to keep walking is PART AND PARCEL OF THE JOB. Hell, even if it were to happen in a BAR, FAR, FAR AWAY from Fright Fest...And someone said to another guy, "Take your best shot", and the other guy swung...IT'S CALLED "ASSAULT". It's macho, jerk posturing like "He had it coming", and "He was asking for it", that leads to people getting arrested!

You'd do well to educate yourself on things you have no idea about before you go shooting your mouth off about them. However, if you can't get over the curb-high hurdle of "It's NEVER okay to strike a character" then I don't hold out high hopes for you.

I've been doing this show for a decade. I KNOW what's expected of me. I KNOW how to perform my job properly. And I KNOW that your attitude is wrong, because it is passed down from the law, through park management, through our production company, and to us...IT IS NEVER, EVER OKAY TO HIT A CHARACTER.

I say AGAIN. If you honestly think that there is EVER a justifiable reason to hit a Fright Fest character, then you are part of the problem, and nobody, including Six Flags, wants you anywhere near the park.

Do what any of us does for a day. Put on a hot, heavy, uncomfortable costume with the INTENTION of entertaining the park guests, and then endure the abuse. Your attitude about this would change in a HEARTBEAT the first time you got punched by some frat boy because you jumped out from behind a soda machine and startled his girlfriend. Or the first time some teenager kicked you in the seat of the pants because you committed the cardinal sin of turning around and walking in the other direction. Or the first time security pulled you to a "safe" area behind a fence because the crowd was too rowdy, and someone decided that was a perfect opportunity to throw rocks at you.

Unless you've seen things from THIS side of the mask, sit down, shut up, and STAY HOME.

I repeat, working for JPM doesn't give you a right to be above all other human beings. Live with it, and drop your superiority complex.


And just because you paid for a ticket or a season pass, that doesn't give YOU the right to haul off and punch a fellow human being whose only sin is performing the job duties expected of them as outlined in their employment contract. Drop YOUR superiority complex.
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Postby Ilovthevu' on October 21st, 2004, 12:57 pm
What's a sacrifice?
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Postby Beef on October 21st, 2004, 1:27 pm
Come to the Trollbridge on Saturday at 3 p.m. and find out. ;)
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Postby tafaba on October 21st, 2004, 1:30 pm
Well said Beef.

I would like to share a story of what happened this past weekend to the nicest Zombie in the world, ME.

This one is going to be long, you dont have to read it if you dont want to...

As usual I was scaring people or making them laugh as I usually do. Seldom do I get into a situation that requires security (although it has happened.).

While working the top part of Necro I encountered a person in a wheelchair. A motorized wheelchair,. not the kind that people take advantage of to get in front of the lines. Anyway, as I do with a lot of people, I stared him down as if I was going to come after him and scared him. Then I gave him a little smirk. He laughed and went on his way.

Later that evening they were back in Necro. I was actually down by the Side Show this time, making people laugh and scaring others. I noticed the guy in the wheelchcair again so I did what I did before, I stared him down with a little smirk. He laughed and said "he isn't scary" Then all hell broke loose. His Brother was behind me and came up from the back side of me and said "What the F are you looking at?" Stunned I said "What?" He repeated it. I said I was "doing my job" he then got up in my face and I politely asked him if he was going to hit me. He wouldnt do it. I told him to back off (Still in Character). He wouldnt so I flagged Security. They rushed over and the first thing out of his mouth was "He threatened me." I laughed, security laughed then all four of his party including him said the same thing, that I threated them.

They were asked to leave Necro and I wrote up a Report on it. Luckily I had two very nice people as witnesses that day.

There are a couple points here. First, I will NEVER look at a person in a wheelchair again,... Wont scare any, wont look their way, wont acknowledge them. And they can put all the blame on the idiot family that lied to Security.

Second, this is where people ruin it for others. He got in my face, was tempted to hit me all because I was doing my job and scaring someone. Yes, he was in a wheelchair and he was enjoying the attention but Zeke his brother had to come up and spoil the fun. I think he thought I was starring at the cripple, I could care less if you are crippled (Handicaped for all you politically correct people).

Of course, there were no threatening words out of my mouth. Why would I do that and give up something I love to do. I don't do Fright Fest for the money. I am a software Consultant in Downtown Chicago, I make plenty of money so obviously I do this for the fun of it. Well, except fot his year as I am going on a cruise next month and this money certainly helps that vacation out :lol:

This is the type of thing that has to stop. I am not saying anyone in here does this kind of thing. I'm sure it is only a small percentage of people that do things like that but it happens. But confronting a character only relates to bad things. Yes, a character can get fired for doing something wrong. And yes, a guest can get kciked out of the park, arrested, loss of season pass and loss of ability to obtain a season pass. Also, if you are going to have a complaint about a character, be truthful about it. Not like these idiots that said I threatened them. Rediculous and nothing good can come out of that.

So spread the good word. Fright Fest Characters are there for your entertainment and we all want to keep doing what we do. There isn't one character that thinks he/she is all high and mighty over the guest. In fact, just the opposite. We want the guest to enjoy us and the park.

Just one last thing, if you give me a rude remark or talk about my mom...you will get it in return, 10 fold (I wish you can ask the 12 year old that called my mom a HO about this one....I think he is still crying and his friends are still laughing) :twisted: :twisted:

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Postby Ruk on October 21st, 2004, 1:30 pm
Sacrifice: "you will believe that stuffed animals can bleed too..."

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Postby punkbunny24242 on October 21st, 2004, 2:06 pm
You go Big Mike!! It is even sadder when you hear this kind of stuff come out of a 12 year olds mouth. When we were in LAFF and they were doing the Time Warp (I love that song!) when Witchie said put your hands on my hips some little 10 year old w/ his group of other 10 year olds.. no adults around them.. yells out "Oh yeah I'll put my hands on your hips" I was like :shock: I can't believe some of the stuff that I hear coming out of these kids mouths!! These kids make me feel so old!! Come on now I'm only 24 I'm still young and hip right? :lol:
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