Da Chillin16JG wrote:I was wondering does Mr. Freeze have simular music to BTR?
Mr. Freeze does not use music at all. This is because Mr. Freeze himself is giving you ride instructions for loading, unloading, and launching. Since there are 2 trains running, the voice of Mr. Freeze is constantly saying something to one side or the other throuhg the speakers. When you come into the station look up and toward the rear of the train, you will see a Mr. Freeze animatronic that turns his head to face which ever side is hearing the voice thru the speakers. It can get annoying, but it is funny to hear "pull down the over the shoulder restraint" when there isn't one anymore. In addition to Mr. Freeze's voice, the ride uses sound effects on the launch track to add to the effect of the ride powering up.
It's the most fun in the park when your laughing in the dark.
I hate the management that took over when WB sold out. Tim Black in my opinion is doing a great job and the parks hasn't looked this good since WB owned the park. I am sorry if you are buddies with Wintrode, but I did not like the park when it was under his control. I have never met the man and really do not know anything about his personal life. I am sure he is not a bad guy, but I just didn't like the way the park was operating.
RB is a good coaster. Not eveything the man did was horrible. When I talk about park management I mean how the park is run not what coasters go in. There were many days I would visit the park and it would be crowded. The rides were not at full capacity or flats were closed because of staffing issues, but all the games would be up and running. This year we actually have season pass perks. CAD was a big success in my book and I would like for them to expand on the concept and bring back Gold Night for pass holders. Flat rides have been falling left and right over the past couple years and finally the park is making up for it. Running a park is not just coasters. I am not going to go on about the last couple years because I am sure arguments will start to fly from the people that think the park can do no wrong. Of course all of this is my opinion and you may or may not agree.
I guess the park sucked period. Wintrode is the park. He's been with the park for like ever, His coaster installations include: Iron Wolf-Ragin Cajun. Correct me if there were more. He loved his park more than anything and thats why I think Black got the job to be the new GM. Black is the closet person to wintrode's ways.
chimike wrote:I did enjoy Batman, even more, when the RideOps wore fake tuxedos like Alfred traffic overhead while standing near the storm drain.
If they wore the fake tuxedos now, they would probably pass out. And I still hear traffic(Horns blowing) will standing in the queue.
See, this can be a problem. You took snippets of my post and by doing so made my original post appear different.
I said that the sounds are not as ----->distinct<------- anymore. There used to be more of a virtual 3D effect by the amount and loudness of the sounds where ANYONE would clearly understand that there is traffic AND a road out overhead. You would hear motorbike's rushing by, etc. etc.
For the Faux or Fake Tuxedos, they were worn and they were worn for a number of years. They weren't some mistake that were quickly done away with. There's nothing wrong with the climate around Batman when the park at least runs the fan, let alone HVAC. There is no external factor other than SFGAm operations that causes the fake tuxes not to be worn. Does it stop my from riding the ride, HECK NO! But it was something that set the ride apart.
These sorts of discussions and comments regarding HISTORY, rather than OPINION, can be distinguished by one's developed perspective.
DejaVu The Ride wrote:
chimike wrote:Somebody, I think Timmy, brought up the fact that they play Seal now in the queue for Batman. I encoutered this for the first time this year and I was shocked. They might as well play Barry Manilow. That song is the worst setup music for guests who are about to board a high-speed coaster. I like the additions of U2 and the other stuff, but Seal left me scratching my head.
Well, Seal's 'Kiss From a Rose' is from the Batman soundtrack, so it sort of makes sense. And well, Barry Manilow is not.(Even though that would be odd.)
Once again, I never said Barry Manilow music was played. I made an allusion between tones of two different options of music.
I'm pretty sure it wasn't Kiss From a Rose, but a different song. Regardless, there have been a number of songs on the various Batman soundtracks, and a good majority of them have never been used. Just because a song is on the soundtrack, it shouldn't then be 'fair game' for use in the ride.
My comment merely suggested that they stick to songs that have an upbeat nature and not some slow, silly, ballad. You don't ride RnRC hearing Cryin' - There's a very basic, basic, basic, basic, reason for that.
DejaVu The Ride wrote:: The station has no air circulation. They have fans and all, but they do nothing but circulate the warm air. Also, it has been mentioned before that most ops work on different rides, so they can't be wearing butler suits at let's say, V2. Times have changed.
The station's air circulation is fine when they have the vents running. I haven't noticed the stuffiness until last year. As someone who has visited the park since Marriott owned it, I don't have a hard time comparing the last 10 years of operation on Batman. But thank you for reminding ME that "times have changed" - I needed that.
Regardless,
You do bring one of the valid reasons why the tuxes have flown the coup. The issue wasn't me wanting them back, it was an issue of why they made the ride more enjoyable. No reason to turn on the apologist siren. It's o.k. to recognize things that are better NOW and things that were better THEN.
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planea380 wrote:P.S. John Williams did write the Batman theme.
Actually, that IS incorrect. The London Symphony Orchestra DID play the instrumentals, but Williams was not the conductor. Danny Elfman DID compose the score.
planea380 wrote:I guess the park sucked period. Wintrode is the park. He's been with the park for like ever, His coaster installations include: Iron Wolf-Ragin Cajun. Correct me if there were more. He loved his park more than anything and thats why I think Black got the job to be the new GM. Black is the closet person to wintrode's ways.
Planea380 is absolutely correct in this regard and in his past post. If anything hurt SFGAm, it was corporate, not Mr. Wintrode. It was Mr. Wintrode who was one of the people who had a strong relationship with B&M. Mr. Wintrode didn't change but there was quite a change as WB became less and less involved.
Is the BTR station seemingly hot such as an oven. in my opinion, I wouldn't believe so. Fans, the outside air, and the airconditioning which is sometimes running all help with the heat problem.
Since someone brought up Mr. Frreze, I will say that this was one of hottest rides I've ever been on especially when they don't have the air on. Hopefully, you guys can figure out why. I also didn't particulary go nuts over the theming of the inside of the station. The outside looks cool, but in my opinion the inside was not as great.
For BTR, you guys complain about the Seal song which could be reasonable because you guys want an upbeat feeling. I've heard some love songs before, and this one is pretty upbeat to say the least. It's not the Thrill Me song or even the passenger, but it still seems upbeat to me. It also gives me a break from the other more upbeat music. In the tunnel the other day, girls were even singing the song.
This is a who cares comment, but I will say that Batman had crushes over women such as Vicki Vayle, Nicole Kidman , Catwoman, Poison Ivy <<Oh my! , and some other ones.
"I've been staring at the world, waiting. All the trouble and all the pain we're facing. Too much light to be livin' in the dark. Why waste time? We only got one life. Together we can be the CHANGE. So go and let your heart burn bright"
I'm pretty sure it wasn't Kiss From a Rose, but a different song.
I can tell you for a fact that it was.
I'm not going to get into the big mangement talk going on here because I don't remember the changes to the park in the past other than the major coasters.
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Ilovthevu' wrote:Since someone brought up Mr. Frreze, I will say that this was one of hottest rides I've ever been on especially when they don't have the air on. Hopefully, you guys can figure out why. .
WOW You must have been there on an off day. Maybe the reason freeze has been closed off and on lately is that the working on the A/C. Usually this ride is the coldest ride in that park. Heck sometimes I go to ride it just to cool off in the station before launch.
It's the most fun in the park when your laughing in the dark.
^For your comment, I was shocked to feel it being so hot because it's Mr. FREEZE. Hmmm, I thought Mr. Freeze would live in Alaska, not Arizona.
Yes, I can see where that is a problem. If the A/C is not working, the ride will have a lot of power interruptions such as V2 did in the first couple years, and it still does today. You don't have any sun beeting on the ride, so it won't in essence get hotter. The heat will have somewhere to go, condensing with the cool air.
I'm sure Aero737 will tell you I'm wrong, because he's the weather guy, but anyway. The way I think of it is this way, fires are bad for anyone to breathe because carbon dioxide is in the atmosphere. Well the heat from the ride has nowhere to go except up just like the carbon dioxide is hard to exit a house.
As for comparing the two rides, V2 has the sun to beet on the ride along with warm weather, and Mr. Freeze has the A/C to help it out. As for V2, I usually avoid it when I think it's quite hot out, and usually it did breakdown during those times.
"I've been staring at the world, waiting. All the trouble and all the pain we're facing. Too much light to be livin' in the dark. Why waste time? We only got one life. Together we can be the CHANGE. So go and let your heart burn bright"
I have been looking for it, still cant find it anywhere. If only I heard the song again, I will try to hear it tomorrow when I go to the park and let you know if I find it.
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Ok, referring to ChiMike's very long post that is directed to me.
First, yeah, I messed up when I quoted you. It was suppose to show it as 2 different comments.(Which they were.)
2nd, I realize that you didn't say that Barry Manilow was played in the bat cave(rather, you just compared the Seal song to it.)
3rd, it is Seal's 'Kiss From a Rose'.
4th, Batman's station is as hot as heck on warm summer afternoons. I would pass out if I wore a fake tuxedo most of the day.
5th, just because you have been following the park since the Marriot days, doesn't mean you can use it as a reason for why you know what you do.
6th, What do you mean by using the 'apologist siren'? Do you want me to apologize for something or am I reading too far into that?
7th, I think the sirens and horns blowing are 'distinct' to me. Last time when I touched a rail in line(When the line was empty), the sirens(and horns) went off and scared the heck out of me. But I do agree. The effects could be played more often.
And for everyone else....Mr.Freeze's station is great.......when they have that AC running.(Which they were on Saturday and Sunday.(TR coming later today.)
Alright, from what I was told, the song that we are all looking for, Hold Me song, IS on one of the Batman CD's, just dont know which song it is or what CD it is on.
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DejaVu The Ride wrote:Ok, referring to ChiMike's very long post that is directed to me.
First, yeah, I messed up when I quoted you. It was suppose to show it as 2 different comments.(Which they were.)
2nd, I realize that you didn't say that Barry Manilow was played in the bat cave(rather, you just compared the Seal song to it.)
3rd, it is Seal's 'Kiss From a Rose'.
4th, Batman's station is as hot as heck on warm summer afternoons. I would pass out if I wore a fake tuxedo most of the day.
5th, just because you have been following the park since the Marriot days, doesn't mean you can use it as a reason for why you know what you do.
6th, What do you mean by using the 'apologist siren'? Do you want me to apologize for something or am I reading too far into that?
7th, I think the sirens and horns blowing are 'distinct' to me. Last time when I touched a rail in line(When the line was empty), the sirens(and horns) went off and scared the heck out of me. But I do agree. The effects could be played more often.
And for everyone else....Mr.Freeze's station is great.......when they have that AC running.(Which they were on Saturday and Sunday.(TR coming later today.)
3rd:
I'll say it a million times until I'm blue in the face, -- and I could be wrong --, but I know Seal's KFAR and that is not what I heard .. Maybe the song I heard isn't Seal, but I heard a slow song that sounded out-of-place.
4th:
I think you are STILL missing what I am saying. I'm not arguing that it isn't hot now. In fact I think the stairway is nauseating. They need to do something with it. When it is 65 and breezy outside and assorted people are all speaking outloud, "Gee Whiz, its stuffy and hot in here," there is a problem. Yet, what I am saying is that the stairways and the station have not always been that way.
which leads me into:
5th: With experience comes perspective. With perspective comes judgment. Someone who has never set foot in a park but has worked there everyday in one year will bring an experienced perspective to the table. They will know more then someone who has been going to the park since day #1. On the flipside, a person who has been going to the park since day #1 might know things that not even some managers know in regards to the history of the park; because that person carries a DIFFERENT perspective and thus different knowledge.
Everyone brings their own experience and perspective to the table. No one is a better person then another. However, some experiences and perspective are better developed then others when it comes to commenting on what the park looked like in 1979 and for others on how many people on average visit Demon in a day in 2004.
There's nothing wrong or unnatural for one person to have a better or worse view on something because they have had a larger exposure to the park. Some people don't know that the park used to have a ride like Tidal Wave. Some people don't know that the park used to have a ride like Cajun Cliffhanger, and those same people probably couldn't tell you what the profit margin on bags of popcorn are.
Alright, I heard the unknown song yesterday, and I asked all the employees and supervisors, and the only answer I got is that it is on a Batman cd, and the words are "Hurry save me, Hurry" something like that, I will keep looking for it.
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"Everyone, listen to me! These jerks killed Superboy. They've tried to kill us. Now they say they're going to tear this city apart. I say... like hell."
, Catwoman, Poison Ivy <<Oh my! 
You must have been there on an off day. Maybe the reason freeze has been closed off and on lately is that the working on the A/C. 
Usually this ride is the coldest ride in that park. Heck sometimes I go to ride it just to cool off in the station before launch.
