Restrant Issue on Raging Bull

[Timmy179]

As you can see "IloveTheVu"

Ill make three points why it would not be safe to jump off of a train moving up the lifthill.

1. You know how easy it would be to fall, rather it be down the lift, or a leg slipping below the handrail, yeah it may not seem like the trains moving that fast, but one mis step and, bye bye.

2. Your leg could easily become lodged between the side of the steps and the train..

3. Last but not least, if you were to fall off the stairs, and fall inbetween the track, would you trust mere heavy chicken wire to hold you up, Redone stated she was a larger girl, and i dont know if i could trust that even if I were 110 pounds.

[coasterzak]

I always used to say that coasters didn't need seatbelts, but since the installation on some coasters it really makes me wonder. You would think after the whole S:RoS and Intamin T-Bar deal that B&M would be installing a backup system. Intamin has you into S:RoS so good now - you just seem so vulnerable on RB. Install seatbelts or something. *Zach who's taking the mom stance on this because too many people have died in the past year*

[Ilovthevu']

The best I can give you is number two. Number three I would definitely rule out because the train goes over the netting completely. It's like the L blue line. I was looking at the tracks and they are quite small. However, as we all know (if you have been on the L blue line), the train is close to every platform and in-between is not much. The netting more protects a mechanic from slipping in-between the track while doing inspections.

For number one, the handrails make it so you can't fit under them especially if you are over maybe ten or even younger. Also if you are sliding down them, your shoes would probably stop you from keep on continuing. You can also use your hands to grab on to one of them and pull yourself up.

Now, number two could be a problem. However, considering that the train is going so slow up the lift hill, the chance would be very slim that you would be dragged underneath the coaster. Considering that the wheels are not exactly, where the black floor ends, that would make it harder.

[w00dland]

Ok I didn't think my jumping out of the train would have so much of an effect on this thread.

They had seatbelts on Nitro, why not reinstall them on Raging Bull? A lot of people have died lately and I know it's one of the rarest things but if you have to put seatbelts on Viper and American Eagle because of the fear of somebody being an idiot why not put them on the biggest coaster? Espicially when the biggest coaster has nothing else to hang onto, unlike AE and Viper.

[Danhockey04]

The restraint on Raging Bull has gone up on me before, one click, right after the camera during the air-time. I was surprised to experience the restraint to go up, I just let it be because it was only one click and it made it better because I was stapled, so I was glad at the same time.

[Timmy179]

Im not going to argue all three of those are reasonable situations.

[DejaVu The Ride]

Would you rather have a very good chance of dieing on the ride without a proper restraint holding you in or have a slight chance of dieing by jumping to the lift hill stairs and grabbing on the something as tight as possible?

[Timmy179]

Id try pulling the restraint down, and if that didnt work, I'd probably just say a prayer and die doing what I love


Another Soap opera ending... Next week on Days of our lives.. Timmy saves a dieing giraffe from the top of SKy trek tower

[w00dland]

Atleast make it look like you were just crazy and jump off by yourself so the Bull doesn't have a lot of downtime.

[Ilovthevu']

You said the ride op didn't believe you. I think that person should be reported considering it's very serious. They have records of who was working on the ride when your situation happened.

I'll give you a non-serious situation in which I went through. On East River Crawler, everything was working okay, but some of the individual arms weren't spinning including mine. So, I told the operator and they said it does that all the time. I said that never happened before. Of course, the ride op ran the ride again. After a couple rides another ride op worked it. Soon after the second ride op was doing the ride, four mechanics were on site fixing the ride.

In conclusion, ride ops aren't always perfect, and something more serious like the RB problem should get more attention.

[highroller13]

This is really scary, I don't really touch the restraints after leaving the station on RB. So if the clamshell suddenly popped open, I would have little time to react.

This same thing has happened to me on Deja Vu, On the first tower, the USRT unlocked, and then I was caught by the safty belt. It was really scary, and when I told the ride-op, he said, "Thats why we have the safty belt. Enjoy the rest of your day." It also happened on Viper, but that was fun...

That is serious bussiness, you should contact Six Flags about it.


(Timmy, you were wrong for insulting Ilovthevu')

[Virtua Tennis]

On the first tower, the USRT unlocked

What exactly does usrt mean?

[G-forcejunky2005]

^i think that it means U-shaped Restraint??!!!?!? anyway, i think that rc designers/engineers should come up with a law or a code saying that all old and new coasters should require a seaty belt... no buts about it .... if there is some kind of restaint issue with roller coasters, then y not install one of the most imprtant safty items(Seatbelt).... remember kids , CLICK IT OR TICKET!!!! LOL

[katydid]

I had a restraint problem on viper last year. The whole front half of the train was roped off, which shouldve given me a hint that something wasnt right, but anyways I got on and my lapbar would not click down very far. My friend sitting next to me had no problem, but I had a good 4-5 inch gap between my lap and the restraint. Needless to say I had some extreme ejector air on that ride. It was fun, but if I had been a small child I dont know if it wouldve been enough to properly secure them. I wish Six Flags would take the lap bar concerns a little bit more seriously than some of the people have stated in their experiences.

[rct2wizard360]

Back Row on Viper + ejector airtime + loose seatbelt = WHEEE!!!!

[coastrcorey]

Viper you always have a lot of room between yourself and the restraint. People flip out a lot because of this, they think it's broken because it doesn't go down further.

[katydid]

Yeah, I knew it wasnt gonna pop all the way up during the ride or anything, I was just saying that if I was a smaller child then the lapbar would not be as secure as it should probably be. I was able to practically stand up durning the drops which I found to be pretty excitng, but I dont know if a small child should have that much mobility.

[coasterswimgurl12]

I've never had a restraint pop open on me, and I dont ever want it to, but on RB, i've actually tought about it and I always sit on the ends since its my favorite seat..I would just leap off on to the lift hill stairs(or whatever you want to call it) or it we were at the top I'd wrap my legs around the restaint and hold on for dear life, while the person next to me holds me in...but I have a question...would G forces actually help hold you in your seat, like when you go up a hill?

[Ilovthevu']

Up a hill, they would work in your favor but, definitely not down. The hardest part to stay on would probably be the "bunny hops" (if you call them that) or the first drop. Considering that you go up and down, that would make a person have to hold on tighter. IMPORTANT NOTE>> I would imagine it being like riding a bull. They try to "eject" the rider by going up and down and spin them around in the helixes. I guess I figured how the coaster deals with a bull now.

[DejaVu The Ride]

Most coaster flip you around and up hills to feel like your going to be ejected.(Ilovthevu')

[Ilovthevu']

I came upon a revelation and you had to kick me down when I'm up. However, I do have to say that the "bunny hills" really remind me of being "bucked" off a bull. They are not like a regular hill on Am E or even a drop on Demon. In order to really understand what I'm saying, I think you have to watch a rodeo once.

This is for you. I remember posting this an hour ago, but suddenly it's like deja vu all over again.

[maneuverman]

As a reply to redones post ill say this, if youre lapbar or clamshell on RB opened on you on the lift that certainly meant that the pressurized lock on that seat failed if it was in tack you would be unable to pull it back down. But answer me this if you can remember, when the train came back to the station did you have to wait for it to depressurize the train before you were able to open the lapbar. I know its a stupid question, you were definitly scared and wanted off. But iam just trying to think about how this could have happened, could say about exactly how far the thing opened, all the way half way or a click. Did you tell guest services about it, like a manager?

[RedOne3781]

manuverman: It was a lot more than a click, but it was less than half way up before the person next to me helped me push it back down. And it didn't relock until the ride was half over.

I am trying to figure out how to eloquently write a letter to someone over at Great America. And I am trying to figure out who to send it to. OR who to call.

As for the question about when the train entered the station: Yes I had to wait before I could open the harness again. I know it all sounds stupid, and a little sketchy. But it's like one of those things I am trying to forget about. Because just thinking about it makes me get all freaked out. So I am sorry if I repeat things over and over, or if I don't make total sense or remember all the little details.

See my main problem is that I don't really want to make big deal about this. I am so not that type of person. I posted about it here mainly because I was curious to know if it had happned to people before and to learn a little more about the way the lapbar (or clamshells, as I have seen some people call them) work. But as I have said already, I am just worried that it could happen again to someone else and that they might not be as lucky.

Erin

[katydid]

Im just surprised that the ride would contiune up the lift if a lapbar would somehow come undone. Isnt there some kinda a saftey mechanism that would cause the ride to stop in a situation like that?

[rct2wizard360]

Guest Relations, then they can send it to the proper person to deal with it.

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