Video #40 I believe, that is a 135 degree drop, there are pics elsewhere, do a google search for Cool and Fresh coaster and you'll find some(my internet connection is acting up right now), it is a one of a kind and took like 8 years to build (actually 8 years to get it appropved by the TUV so it could operate in Germany)
Also for how high is to high, that's an easy question, 1,999' 11", anything above that is US Govt Airspace
Better question is how much is the most parks are willing to pay, and what can that dollar amount get them
Favorite Wood Coasters: The Voyage, Ravine Flyer II, Thunderhead, Balder Favorite Steel: Voltron Nevera, Steel Vengeance, Expedition GeForce, Olympia Looping Parks visited: 232, Coasters Ridden: Steel: 894, Wood: 179, Total: 1073
Back when Raging Bull was proposed at a Gurnee Town Meeting which I was asked to attend by the park, Gurnee made a deal that no new coaster would ever be higher then Sky Trek Tower. Now I don't know if this can be changed but I never expect to see a Coaster Higher then 300 ft. at Great America. Sorry if that bums you out . Let's say a prayer and lend a hand to the people of Gurnee who are in great need at this time. We go there for fun now let's go lend a helping hand.
Sorry but I don't think Gurnee really needs a hand. I mean, they weren't flattened by a tornado or something. Some roads are closed off, but people are acting like "oh my God, the world's coming to an end"
My friend told me that we can't go to Great America on Friday. I said "why not" and he said "because I bet it will be flooded" The only thing is that storm drains don't work because the points that they drain out to are pretty much underwater. Otherwise, everything is fine. Roads are opening up again. Six Flags will not drown and we will still have all of our new rides. We have seen worse things and this "flood" is not all that bad.
[quote="Ron/Wolf"]Back when Raging Bull was proposed at a Gurnee Town Meeting which I was asked to attend by the park, quote]
If by "Asked to attend by the park" you mean you found out about it and showed up, right? I highly doubt someone from the park came up to YOU, of all people, and said "Ron, please attend this meeting." There's absolutely NO POINT for the park to do that to you. I went to Deja Vu's and V2's meetings for good times.
Twix Mix listen to what you just said. If you would be living where the river has flooded I'm sure as hell you would be askin for support. And you said it's not that big of a deal, two children are missing now. Is that not a big deal to you either?
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Here we go again I'm not getting into another boxes match. I was asked to attend in favor of the coaster. I don't care if you beleive me or not fact is fact! Here is a real sad fact I have found out reading you replies, all you care about is Great America. Hello Gurnee is a city with people who are being flooded out, oh, but thats O.K. as long as Great America is not flooded. What's wrong with you people it's just a park. Yes, I love the park but I have feelings for people being effected by the flood be it in Gurnee, Des Plaines, Fox Lake wherever. People that live in Gurnee work for Great America in some cases. Wake up people Great America is only a Six Month Entity. Gurnee Mills is a 12 Month Entity. People who live in Gurnee live there 365 days a year I suppose. But all you care about is the state of the park. State this RiverView was around for ever. Did anyone think it would close so abrutly? Well it did and now I shop at Dominicks and Toys R Us on the site of that park. Opryland A Southern Jewel Closed abubtly to become Opry Mills and nobody tried to stop it. So at any time Great America can Close or by the way if a Tornado hits the park it is not built to withstand the impact. So be greatful and care about people.
mschulz5 wrote:Twix Mix listen to what you just said. If you would be living where the river has flooded I'm sure as hell you would be askin for support. And you said it's not that big of a deal, two children are missing now. Is that not a big deal to you either?
I do live in Gurnee thank you very much.
Yeah, it's bad, but all I'm trying to say is that it's not nearly as bad as it could be and that we should be thankful that it's only this. There are hurricanes every year that hit the east coast and bring a lot more rain and a lot more dead every year.
Ron/Wolf wrote:But all you care about is the state of the park.
I have never said that the park was more important than people. Also, you said that "Gurnee Mills is a 12 month entity" Does that make it just as important as the people who live there "365 days a year"?
Anything over the Top THrill Dragster height will just be too high... even that ride is designed to be a racing one and I don't think that the design will fit safely with a long, good, roller coaster. I also think that if Arrow made a roller coaster over 500 feet it would be mass murder and a crime against humanity.
Millenium Force Rides: 3
Top Thrill Dragster Rides: 1
I'm suprised no one has said this but what about the town commitees that have to approve these rides. Just like you said, nothing can be built higer than STT. Well what town committee is going to approve a 500 ft. tall coaster unless it's Sandusky? Personally I would rather have a Raging Bull than a TTD.
What makes TTD fun is the speed, and the downward spiral, not its height, the height kept my mom off it actually. I like heights, but i think we'd be fine just putting coasters on hills to give them views, the coaster itself doesn't need to be that high. I personally would ride anything, but as was stated earlier, us people that will ride anything are only a small part of the people who ride coasters.
What you don't understand you can make mean anything.
Haven't ridden a rocket coaster yet (TTD, Xcel, Stormrunner), but if SFGAm ever considered a rocket coaster for the park, I would love to see a version of Stormrunner built because it actually has elements to it. That coaster would easily pass Gurnee's zoning variance also.
Ron/Wolf is correct on the max height being Sky Trek Tower. To me, this is fine. Raging Bull is 208ft being the tallest coaster in the park and the collection of coasters is great.
I finally retired the Sarah Palin signature because she is now 100% irrelevant.
Zoning Board of Appeals meeting minutes/agenda's, thats where all height variance requests go through. They have their list of meeting times/dates there. Usually GAm plans rides in the september/october timeframe. These meetings are open to the public, so anyone can attend.
Also SFGAm is only required to get permits for anything over 125 feet, anything under they don't have to get any public meetings about it.
You can find in their archives all the approvals going back to Iron Wolf was the earliest one I recall seeing, you also see strong concern from residents regarding sound from the rides.
Height doesn't mean much to me. The rides at the bottom of my signature are the top five with the last three being rollercoasters. These rides don't soar in the heavens. Wow, TTD is so high! Height, and speed are some of the things that a lot of people look in a coaster. So, yes they will continue to go the extra limit.
What I look for in a rollercoaster are new inversions, great drops, and a great ride. If height is the only reason why people love roller coasters these days, RC would not be packed daily.
"I've been staring at the world, waiting. All the trouble and all the pain we're facing. Too much light to be livin' in the dark. Why waste time? We only got one life. Together we can be the CHANGE. So go and let your heart burn bright"
Yeah I agree with that about height. TTD is the world's best example that height and speed aren't the only things a coaster can have and still be good.
The limit to the height of coasters is the human body. The higher these things get, the more force they are exerting on the passenger's bodies. Personally, I would go on a coaster no matter how high, whther or not it scared the hell outta me just by looking at it; as long as it was safe.
