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Postby stergmi on September 5th, 2016, 9:59 am
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RollingCoasting wrote:Plus I'd personally rather see Viper RMC'd. They could make a great coaster greater

And also, stop acting like you know what's happening. You don't know what the future will hold for American Eagle, so don't say it's going to be torn down because what you want to happen isn't likely. (And in reality, there would be 2 RMCs 100 feet away from each other. Do we need that again?) (TDK and RC)


Please stop your nonsense of anybody saying they know what's happening. All the posts were "ideal plan". "I hope they reconsider", "speculations, " and then the logic behind the thoughts. If you have a problem with people expressing their ideas, simply don't respond . Don't make false claims. There is not a single post saying AE is going to be torn down sated s fact,it just seems your very think skin on the topic of anybody's ideas or thoughts on improving a ride that if it remains the same, will eventually be fire wood.

What is this based on? SF has many woods in their portfolio older than AE

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Postby bbd on September 5th, 2016, 10:30 am
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RollingCoasting wrote:Plus I'd personally rather see Viper RMC'd. They could make a great coaster greater

And also, stop acting like you know what's happening. You don't know what the future will hold for American Eagle, so don't say it's going to be torn down because what you want to happen isn't likely. (And in reality, there would be 2 RMCs 100 feet away from each other. Do we need that again?) (TDK and RC)


Please stop your nonsense of anybody saying they know what's happening. All the posts were "ideal plan". "I hope they reconsider", "speculations, " and then the logic behind the thoughts. If you have a problem with people expressing their ideas, simply don't respond . Don't make false claims. There is not a single post saying AE is going to be torn down sated s fact,it just seems your very think skin on the topic of anybody's ideas or thoughts on improving a ride that if it remains the same, will eventually be fire wood.

What is this based on? SF has many woods in their portfolio older than AE

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They have like 3 out of 20+ older than AE. since every park essentially has 2 wooden coasters Also, 2 coasters in the same era Cyclone built in '83 and Colossus built in '78 were recently got RMC treatment.
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Postby stergmi on September 5th, 2016, 11:00 am
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bbd wrote:[quote="RollingCoasting"]Plus I'd personally rather see Viper RMC'd. They could make a great coaster greater

And also, stop acting like you know what's happening. You don't know what the future will hold for American Eagle, so don't say it's going to be torn down because what you want to happen isn't likely. (And in reality, there would be 2 RMCs 100 feet away from each other. Do we need that again?) (TDK and RC)


Please stop your nonsense of anybody saying they know what's happening. All the posts were "ideal plan". "I hope they reconsider", "speculations, " and then the logic behind the thoughts. If you have a problem with people expressing their ideas, simply don't respond . Don't make false claims. There is not a single post saying AE is going to be torn down sated s fact,it just seems your very think skin on the topic of anybody's ideas or thoughts on improving a ride that if it remains the same, will eventually be fire wood.

What is this based on? SF has many woods in their portfolio older than AE

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They have like 3 out of 20+ older than AE. since every park essentially has 2 wooden coasters Also, 2 coasters in the same era Cyclone built in '83 and Colossus built in '78 were recently got RMC treatment.[/quote]
Screaming Eagle
Wild One
Great American Scream Machine
Thunderbolt
Judge Roy Scream
Le Monstre (built in 85)

So 5 older and 1 about the same. However; Texas Giant, Rattler, Cyclone and Colossus all shared the fact that they were built by now defunct companies and the rides had issues. Rattler needing it's drop shortened, Cyclone needing a round of track refurbishment, Texas Giant being built by Dinn, and Colossus ridership reaching Mean Streak levels of walk on.

As other mentioned before SF likes variety within the park. If we got another RMC I suspect it'll be a TRex or Raptor. And I see AE getting a retrack by GCI more likely than RMC conversion.

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Postby bbd on September 5th, 2016, 11:36 am
stergmi wrote:Plus I'd personally rather see Viper RMC'd. They could make a great coaster greater

And also, stop acting like you know what's happening. You don't know what the future will hold for American Eagle, so don't say it's going to be torn down because what you want to happen isn't likely. (And in reality, there would be 2 RMCs 100 feet away from each other. Do we need that again?) (TDK and RC)


Please stop your nonsense of anybody saying they know what's happening. All the posts were "ideal plan". "I hope they reconsider", "speculations, " and then the logic behind the thoughts. If you have a problem with people expressing their ideas, simply don't respond . Don't make false claims. There is not a single post saying AE is going to be torn down sated s fact,it just seems your very think skin on the topic of anybody's ideas or thoughts on improving a ride that if it remains the same, will eventually be fire wood.[/quote]
What is this based on? SF has many woods in their portfolio older than AE

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They have like 3 out of 20+ older than AE. since every park essentially has 2 wooden coasters Also, 2 coasters in the same era Cyclone built in '83 and Colossus built in '78 were recently got RMC treatment.[/quote]
Screaming Eagle
Wild One
Great American Scream Machine
Thunderbolt
Judge Roy Scream
Le Monstre (built in 85)

So 5 older and 1 about the same. However; Texas Giant, Rattler, Cyclone and Colossus all shared the fact that they were built by now defunct companies and the rides had issues. Rattler needing it's drop shortened, Cyclone needing a round of track refurbishment, Texas Giant being built by Dinn, and Colossus ridership reaching Mean Streak levels of walk on.

As other mentioned before SF likes variety within the park. If we got another RMC I suspect it'll be a TRex or Raptor. And I see AE getting a retrack by GCI more likely than RMC conversion.

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AE was built in 1981. Wild One was built in 1986. Le Montre 1985..so 2 of the 6 you listed are not older. I said "like 3 out of 20"..it was 4. SF doesn't like variety, they clone as much as possible. That's why there's are 10 skyscreamers since 2011, 8 superloops in 2 years, 7 Justice leagues in 3 years, and 5 free spins(all the same model) in 3 years, not to mention all the Batman's and Intamin roaring/raping rapids. I wish they valued variety more.
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Postby RollingCoasting on September 5th, 2016, 11:44 am
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RollingCoasting wrote:Plus I'd personally rather see Viper RMC'd. They could make a great coaster greater

And also, stop acting like you know what's happening. You don't know what the future will hold for American Eagle, so don't say it's going to be torn down because what you want to happen isn't likely. (And in reality, there would be 2 RMCs 100 feet away from each other. Do we need that again?) (TDK and RC)


Please stop your nonsense of anybody saying they know what's happening. All the posts were "ideal plan". "I hope they reconsider", "speculations, " and then the logic behind the thoughts. If you have a problem with people expressing their ideas, simply don't respond . Don't make false claims. There is not a single post saying AE is going to be torn down as fact fact or even RMC' on it. It just seems you're very thin skinne on the topic of anybody's ideas or thoughts on improving a ride, that if it remains the same, will eventually be fire wood.


Not true, I love the idea of improving rides, but unless its be converted to a Trex, I don't see it happening. An I-Box Conversion would be way too similar to Goliath, which is standing 500 feet away. With a T-Rex conversion at least the track style would worlds different, and they could market it as the world's first single rail hybrid coaster. And by saying that you know it'll be firewood, you're implying that you kind of knows what's going on. And we all know your 2017 predictions were no where near correct, so...

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Postby JaminOut on September 5th, 2016, 11:49 am
They do value variety. They are regional theme parks, NOT Disneyland. They cater to those who's budget only allows them to travel to regional destinations (Six Flags). They operate their parks off of that belief. Therefore, they want variety within their parks NOT around them. They don't expect 99% of their customers to visit all 13 parks. I only regularly visit GAm, Cedar Point, Kings Island, Valleyfair, Nick Universe, and Mount Olympus. I am not the 1% who travels to other Six Flags parks. If you are, you certainly have the money to avoid other Six Flags parks and visit independently owned ones instead. Don't complain about it, get over it and visit some other park.


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Postby stergmi on September 5th, 2016, 12:17 pm
JaminOut wrote:They do value variety. They are regional theme parks, NOT Disneyland. They cater to those who's budget only allows them to travel to regional destinations (Six Flags). They operate their parks off of that belief. Therefore, they want variety within their parks NOT around them. They don't expect 99% of their customers to visit all 13 parks. I only regularly visit GAm, Cedar Point, Kings Island, Valleyfair, Nick Universe, and Mount Olympus. I am not the 1% who travels to other Six Flags parks. If you are, you certainly have the money to avoid other Six Flags parks and visit independently owned ones instead. Don't complain about it, get over it and visit some other park.


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Postby bbd on September 5th, 2016, 12:56 pm
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bbd wrote:
RollingCoasting wrote:Plus I'd personally rather see Viper RMC'd. They could make a great coaster greater

And also, stop acting like you know what's happening. You don't know what the future will hold for American Eagle, so don't say it's going to be torn down because what you want to happen isn't likely. (And in reality, there would be 2 RMCs 100 feet away from each other. Do we need that again?) (TDK and RC)


Please stop your nonsense of anybody saying they know what's happening. All the posts were "ideal plan". "I hope they reconsider", "speculations, " and then the logic behind the thoughts. If you have a problem with people expressing their ideas, simply don't respond . Don't make false claims. There is not a single post saying AE is going to be torn down as fact fact or even RMC' on it. It just seems you're very thin skinne on the topic of anybody's ideas or thoughts on improving a ride, that if it remains the same, will eventually be fire wood.


Not true, I love the idea of improving rides, but unless its be converted to a Trex, I don't see it happening. An I-Box Conversion would be way too similar to Goliath, which is standing 500 feet away. With a T-Rex conversion at least the track style would worlds different, and they could market it as the world's first single rail hybrid coaster. And by saying that you know it'll be firewood, you're implying that you kind of knows what's going on. And we all know your 2017 predictions were no where near correct, so...

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Can you comprehend and read? Clearly not. Please don't respond as you were told before b/c you clearly are sore about AE and keep making ridiculous false claims, purposeful complete misrepresentations. and lies on what is being written.
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Postby JaminOut on September 5th, 2016, 1:03 pm
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JaminOut wrote:They do value variety. They are regional theme parks, NOT Disneyland. They cater to those who's budget only allows them to travel to regional destinations (Six Flags). They operate their parks off of that belief. Therefore, they want variety within their parks NOT around them. They don't expect 99% of their customers to visit all 13 parks. I only regularly visit GAm, Cedar Point, Kings Island, Valleyfair, Nick Universe, and Mount Olympus. I am not the 1% who travels to other Six Flags parks. If you are, you certainly have the money to avoid other Six Flags parks and visit independently owned ones instead. Don't complain about it, get over it and visit some other park.


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That is true now that I think about it. Therefore, even Disney doesn't care about variety. Sorry bbd, you're perfect park doesn't exist.
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Postby bbd on September 5th, 2016, 1:04 pm
JaminOut wrote:They do value variety. They are regional theme parks, NOT Disneyland. They cater to those who's budget only allows them to travel to regional destinations (Six Flags). They operate their parks off of that belief. Therefore, they want variety within their parks NOT around them. They don't expect 99% of their customers to visit all 13 parks. I only regularly visit GAm, Cedar Point, Kings Island, Valleyfair, Nick Universe, and Mount Olympus. I am not the 1% who travels to other Six Flags parks. If you are, you certainly have the money to avoid other Six Flags parks and visit independently owned ones instead. Don't complain about it, get over it and visit some other park.


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I do visit other parks and have Cedar Fair Platinum season pass. I will certainly go to Cedar Point, Kings island, CA Wonderland next year and maybe Kings Dominion. On the other hand the only SF park I will be sure to go to is MM, hit Adv this year visiting relatives. I will be in Atlanta, DC, Tx and CA and right now am iffy on visiting the SF parks. The best SF park would be 3rd at best among Cedar Fair family of parks. Btw, Cedar Fair doesn't expect people to visit all their parks, but they don't massively clone their big rides like SF does with JL, 4D spin, etc... Having the same class of ride is fine, but making them all the same exact model is another thing.
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Postby RollingCoasting on September 5th, 2016, 1:06 pm
I don't care if the ride gets converted or not, but you're an idiot it you think 2 RMCs 500 feet away Is happening,schoup. I'll respond to your posts as often as I like. That's how a forum works. If you don't like it, then bye Felicia.

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Postby stergmi on September 5th, 2016, 1:07 pm
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JaminOut wrote:They do value variety. They are regional theme parks, NOT Disneyland. They cater to those who's budget only allows them to travel to regional destinations (Six Flags). They operate their parks off of that belief. Therefore, they want variety within their parks NOT around them. They don't expect 99% of their customers to visit all 13 parks. I only regularly visit GAm, Cedar Point, Kings Island, Valleyfair, Nick Universe, and Mount Olympus. I am not the 1% who travels to other Six Flags parks. If you are, you certainly have the money to avoid other Six Flags parks and visit independently owned ones instead. Don't complain about it, get over it and visit some other park.


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I do visit other parks and have Cedar Fair Platinum season pass. The best SF park would be 3rd at best among Cedar Fair family of parks. Btw, Cedar Fair doesn't expect peple to visit all their parks but they don't massive cloning of their big rides like SF does with JL, 4D spin, etc... Having the same class of ride is fine, but making them all the same exact model is another thing.

He's got a point. Instead of cloning rides they just don't send any to DP, VF, MA, CW, CA G-Am, WoF, Knott's or KD...

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Postby bbd on September 5th, 2016, 1:18 pm
RollingCoasting wrote:I don't care if the ride gets converted or not, but you're an idiot it you think 2 RMCs 500 feet away Is happening,schoup. I'll respond to your posts as often as I like. That's how a forum works. If you don't like it, then bye Felicia.

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Btw, follow your own advice, don't respond, I'm not the one having the fit over any suggestion to AE. Btw, a new RMC like Goliath and a possible conversion of a racing coaster, like happened to Colossus to Twisted Colossus are 2 very different things. Only in your mind they are the same thing. Btw, a park can't have 2 RMC's though completely different types, new vs old racing? So, by that logic SF would never put in 2 launch coasters in the same park? Of course they have 2 at MM b/c they are completely different, just like the 2 RMC would be completely different.
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Postby RollingCoasting on September 5th, 2016, 1:28 pm
bbd wrote:Btw, follow your own advice, don't respond, I'm not the one having the fit over any suggestion to AE. Btw, a new RMC like Goliath and a possible conversion of a racing coaster, like happened to Colossus to Twisted Colossus are 2 very different things. Only in your mind they are the same thing.


I'm done with you. You are the most moronic person on this forum since that bobbinbop guy. I told you I'm fine with American Eagle being converted, so maybe you're the one who doesn't know how to read. I didn't say they were the same, I said they were too similar to seem like a reasonable possibility. You just want to fight with me for the sake of fighting. I hope you know that when one of the moderators realizes you made another account, you're being banned.
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Postby bbd on September 5th, 2016, 1:33 pm
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bbd wrote:Btw, follow your own advice, don't respond, I'm not the one having the fit over any suggestion to AE. Btw, a new RMC like Goliath and a possible conversion of a racing coaster, like happened to Colossus to Twisted Colossus are 2 very different things. Only in your mind they are the same thing.


I'm done with you. You are the most moronic person on this forum since that bobbinbop guy. I told you I'm fine with American Eagle being converted, so maybe you're the one who doesn't know how to read. I didn't say they were the same, I said they were too similar to seem like a reasonable possibility. You just want to fight with me for the sake of fighting. I hope you know that when one of the moderators realizes you made another account, you're being banned.


Yes, please stop as you were asked before. Again only in your mind is a racing coaster built in 1981, which are not being built anymore too similar to a 2014 built RMC. You're clearly angry b/c you were exposed.
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Postby RollingCoasting on September 5th, 2016, 1:41 pm
No, I meant an RMC Conversion of American Eagle would be too similar to Goliath, that would be like adding 2 B&M Stand-Ups right next to each.

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Postby JaminOut on September 5th, 2016, 1:47 pm
Wow. Everyone needs to chill out. If bbd is Shoup and he doesn't want to be honest about it, there's no way to track it and only the mods can do anything about it. Everyone needs to stop pointing fingers and playing the blame game.

This forum's quality has gone down quite a lot since the beginning of August. Are new members to blame? Maybe. Are the old members to blame? Maybe. If you are upset with the forum or the people on the board, don't use it. Make your own forum. Join TPR. Don't make everyone else's experience on SFGAmWorld a living hell.

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Postby Guy_With_A_Stick on September 5th, 2016, 1:49 pm
JaminOut wrote:Wow. Everyone needs to chill out. If bbd is Shoup and he doesn't want to be honest about it, there's no way to track it and only the mods can do anything about it. Everyone needs to stop pointing fingers and playing the blame game.

This forum's quality has gone down quite a lot since the beginning of August. Are new members to blame? Maybe. Are the old members to blame? Maybe. If you are upset with the forum or the people on the board, don't use it. Make your own forum. Join TPR. Don't make everyone else's experience on SFGAmWorld a living hell.

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Postby bbd on September 5th, 2016, 2:11 pm
RollingCoasting wrote:No, I meant an RMC Conversion of American Eagle would be too similar to Goliath, that would be like adding 2 B&M Stand-Ups right next to each.

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It would not be similar at all..It's not even close to adding 2 B&M stand Ups, false comparison. AE is a racing coaster, Goliath is purposely built hybrid from it's opening, You're obsessed with RMC makes it the same. You neglect the racing coaster itself makes it highly unique. Like I said before, by your logic no park would get 2 launch coasters b/c they are launch class of coaster, even though they are completely different, like MM got. Nobody says they don't full throttle b/c they have Supermam Escape from Krypton, both are LSM types, but very different rides.
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Postby RollingCoasting on September 5th, 2016, 2:17 pm
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So you're saying that having this:
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And this:

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500 feet away from each is not even close to similar, yet this:

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and this:

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Would be the same. Wow. Your logic is that of a peapod's. Also, I never said that 2 launch coasters in a park is too similar.
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Postby FParker185 on September 5th, 2016, 2:47 pm
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Postby Mean Streaker on September 5th, 2016, 2:51 pm
You guys are telling bbd to stop saying he KNOWS AE will be torn down eventually but then you are saying you KNOW SF would never build two RMCs that close to eachother.

Really no one knows what SF will do. And I think we can all agree it's much more likely for AE to get torn down than it is for AE to get RMCed.
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Postby bbd on September 5th, 2016, 2:57 pm
RollingCoasting wrote:Image

So you're saying that having this:
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And this:

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500 feet away from each is not even close to similar, yet this:

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and this:

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Would be the same. Wow. Your logic is that of a peapod's. Also, I never said that 2 launch coasters in a park is too similar.


Goliath would be absolutely nothing like a conversion of AE to what happened to Colossus to Twisted Colossus. Only in your mind the are similar b/c you're obsessed with the RMC-I-box base. Like i said, using your logic MM would not have 2 LSM coasters, though Full Throttle is absolutely nothing like Superman Krypton. The 2 LSM's are absolutely nothing a like, just like Golaith and AE conversion would be nothing alike. What part don't you get on a racing coaster conversion being unique to a modern 2104 RMC like Goiath. Racing coasters are unique by nature..4 trains, 2 tracks, etc... Btw, your second set of pictures is as usual a result lack of reading comprehension coupled with wilful nonsense and wilful misrepresentation.
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Postby bbd on September 5th, 2016, 2:59 pm
Mean Streaker wrote:You guys are telling bbd to stop saying he KNOWS AE will be torn down eventually but then you are saying you KNOW SF would never build two RMCs that close to eachother.

Really no one knows what SF will do. And I think we can all agree it's much more likely for AE to get torn down than it is for AE to get RMCed.


Correction, I never said I know AE will be torn down.
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Postby RollingCoasting on September 5th, 2016, 3:05 pm
Mean Streaker wrote:You guys are telling bbd to stop saying he KNOWS AE will be torn down eventually but then you are saying you KNOW SF would never build two RMCs that close to eachother.

Really no one knows what SF will do. And I think we can all agree it's much more likely for AE to get torn down than it is for AE to get RMCed.


I didn't say I know, I said it's not likely at all.

bbd wrote:Goliath would be absolutely nothing like a conversion of AE to what happened to Colossus to Twisted Colossus. Only in your mind the are similar b/c you're obsessed with the RMC-I-box base. Like i said, using your logic MM would not have 2 LSM coasters, though Full Throttle is absolutely nothing like Superman Krypton. The 2 LSM's are absolutely nothing a like, just like Golaith and AE conversion would be nothing alike. What part don't you get on a racing coaster conversion being unique to a modern 2104 RMC like Goiath. Racing coasters are unique by nature..4 trains, 2 tracks, etc... Btw, your second set of pictures is as usual a result lack of reading comprehension coupled with wilful nonsense and wilful misrepresentation.


"Btw" How are you not seeing this? An RMC Topper Track Wooden coaster gives you practically the same experience as an I-Box Conversion of American Eagle would. It doesn't matter that it's racing, it'd be like having two Stand-Ups, except one is a dueling B&M and one is an Intamin. Track looks the same, and it's the same ride type. I'm not obsessed with the issue, and the launch coasters are completely different.

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