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Postby rctfan1556 on April 7th, 2004, 8:17 am
http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Movies/ ... index.html

Damn you Eisner! Why won't you just leave?! :evil:
Ugh.....why won't Eisner step down as CEO and let Roy Disney takeover? cause at this rate we soon won't have a Disney at all. :cry:
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Postby Papas on April 7th, 2004, 11:05 am
1. Eisner is a damn good CEO, and has been for how long, since the 80's?
2. ROY taking his spot!?!?
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Postby planea380 on April 7th, 2004, 3:24 pm
1. Eisner is one of the worst CEOs, yes he did good things, but the there is plenty more bad.
2. Disney has alwyas prided its self on its movies being made in the USA; guess what there not anymore.
3. Creativity has graddualy dropped ever since he came in(all thooses sequals no one watches)
4. He cancelled the hand drawn animation department of Disney, what Disney is known for. You might as well call the company: The Eisner Corporation.


in my opinion I dont care who takes his spot.
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Postby Aero737 on April 7th, 2004, 3:35 pm
Here's my 2 cents on this story.

First there were silent pictures. Low quality cameras and no sound. They were replaced by black and white movies eventually replaced silent film when the technology evolved. Colour movies came along later on and now we have computer generated movies.

I don't see whats so wrong here. If disney started in the 20's would you all still want to see it producing silent pictures? They are going with the wave of new technology and the public seems to like it.

Many good cartoons have computer generated parts such as Futurama (You can tell what is CG and whats not, but they look close). I say embrace the change, you never know what may come of it.
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Postby tacoking1664 on April 7th, 2004, 3:47 pm
All I have to say is Eisner has to go.....

As much as I loved Finding Nemo and Toy Story 2, I miss there old hand-drawn hits like Aladdin. :(
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Postby rctfan1556 on April 7th, 2004, 4:34 pm
^I agree with him.
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Postby SFGA Bob on April 7th, 2004, 5:33 pm
I'm not even going to get into the whole debate on Eisner vs. Disney, but just because technology moves on doesn't mean that old techniques can't be used. for example, black and white film is still used for low budget projects [see Clerks (1994)]. other movies use decades old techniques to achieve special effects that would cost millions otherwise and not necessarilly look any better [see the forced perspective shots in Lord of the Rings (2001-2003)]. and still other movies are shot solely on film instead of digival video just because of the look of the finished product.

this last point is the most important in this discussion as it is the look of traditional animated films vs. CG animated films in dispute. in my opinion, neither is better than the other and both should be persued as forms of moviemaking in the future. when a large studio drops one format and focuses solely on the other, it is a travisty. both formats should be should be equally supported.
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Postby w00dland on April 7th, 2004, 5:55 pm
tacoking1664 wrote:All I have to say is Eisner has to go.....

As much as I loved Finding Nemo and Toy Story 2, I miss there old hand-drawn hits like Aladdin. :(



I agree, a good animation film in my mind has a good storyline, has great music, and needs some comedy.

My second favorite movie of all time is the Emperors New Groove. It's helarious.
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Postby da rcman2001 on April 7th, 2004, 6:26 pm
Papas wrote:1. Eisner is a damn good CEO, and has been for how long, since the 80's?
2. ROY taking his spot!?!?


Papas, dont you know anything about Disney? The guys the worst d*mn ceo no matter how awesome he was in the 80s and early 90s. Ever heard of dca? Yea, it sucks. What about disney studios paris? Wait, when was the last time disneyland park get a new e-ticket ride that doesnt allready exist at disney world? 1993? Exactly. Ticket sales are declining as the price goes higher, and animation dep. that you just read about sucks and closed their buena vista studio. The only reason disney has money from movies released in the last 5 years is because the pixar made films that disneys makin all the money 4.

Disneylands now turning around but thats not eisner thats the general manager.
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Postby Da Chillin16JG on April 7th, 2004, 6:33 pm
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Postby greatamerica2003 on April 8th, 2004, 12:00 pm
What to say about this.......

Well, times are indeed changing. And we cant necissarily blame Eisner for the change at animation. Granted, in the last few years he has done in my opinion a terrible job at the helm of The Walt Disney Company. But hand drawn and hand painted films just arent the rage anymore. Will it die? No. Just because there are no more films on the slate at the moment doesnt mean that its dead for good. I dont think that they could eliminate that entirely.

Now, it does galvanize the camp that wants to oust Mike. The whole lost values and lost history thing. I personally would NOT like Roy Disney to step in and run the company, but I do think he needs to be involved some way.

Eisner has to go. Hes done good in the past, but his time is up. Adios.
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