As much as I want to believe you we all know money talks the most in business and if they think they can utilize a space better and bring in more crowds with a big, fast and NEW ride they can remove just about anyting and NOTHING is safe...
I personally believe the rumor thats its possible that Giant Drop will be removed along with Southwest Amphitheater. Its boring, i have not been on it for 2 years now because its not a thrill anymore. It never has long lines, i think it has lost its touch, and if it never has lines, its costing them staff that could be used ELSEWHERE in the park! I also still think Bucaneer battle was a bad idea, or it should have been placed in a different location of the park then where it is. Also, As much as these new BIG WIGS in Six Flags would like to try and bring the park to be extremely FAMILY FRIENDLY? Its still the Roller Coasters that bring them in. Not all families are just 2 parents and SMALL Children! If your gonna cater to the entire family, you have to also cater to those big enough to want to ride rollercoasters, or are they just choosing to IGNORE the over 14 side of the family?
In that Same Time GAdv has Superman, Kingda Ka, and El Toro; MM has Tatsu, Scream, Terminator
Probably due to the fact that both those parks appeal more to tourists (GAdv has the New Yorkers and MM has California tourists) and both, especially Magic Mountain, have other parks/attractions they need to lure tourists away from.
OK... It probably would happen, but What?... However I called awhile ago that Chang was going to Be Removed for A Waterpark Expansion. Would they place it, where Iron Wolf Is? Or Where Splashwater... This makes almost no sense, But if this will help Six Flags and Improve their Revenue... I Guess.
I'd Rather we get Scream from Magic Mountain and Put it Where Camp Cartoon/Iron Wolf is, But thats Me.
Moving Chang would just be stupid. There is NO reason Great America needs that ride in any way, shape or form. The park would either have two stand-ups or remove a bad stand-up for an good at best one? Plus where do you put the ride without removing something, as Chang is huge. This ride is easily larger then the former Splash Water area or Iron Wolf area. Just a dumb move if they do it.
If it is needed to remove the ride, Six Flags St. Louis could use the ride. It would fit perfectly back where Tidal Wave is, tons of room back there. The park could use one more big steel coaster.
On one last thing, I'd suggest anyone to visit Six Flags Kentucky Kingdom. It is a nice enough park with ultra small lines. Plus it looks to be on pace to be the next Geauga Lake.
I'm sure IF Chang does go snf end up here more than Iron Wolf would need to go. Perhaps some of the surrounding Yukon Territory? It is a bit ridiculous moving the biggest ride of any park and their star signature coaster and replacing it with MORE Hurricane Harbor. And Iron Wolf going to La Ronde or Mexico? Yeah....whatever.
As its been said, KK is probably the next Geagua Lake. By removing their larggest atraction, it will definatly help lower their attendance, and, in essence, kill the park faster. Not to suprising that SFGAM will get it, if they indeed go through with the plan. They can't afford to build new large coasters, so I think we could see more of the smaller parks in the chain give up their large coasters to bigger parks who, quite frankly, deserve them more. In this new "ride exchange" that screamscape mentioned, don't be suprised if more small park signature coasters move. Why would Chang come to SFGAM? Its the closest large park. Shipping a ride of that size to Illinois would be alot cheaper than shipping it to New Jersey or Texas. The options they have if this happens are to either remove Iron wolf, run both as stand ups, or change the trains on one ride to sit down or floorless. more than likley though, since screamscape said each park would give "gifts" to another park, don't be suprised if Iron Wolf if SFGAM's gift to another park, probably either SFM, SFFT, SFOT, SFNE, SFA, or SFGAD. Also, if Chang indeed does come to SFGAM, the only to places it could really go are in Carousel Plaza or Iron Wolf's spot, depends on if Iron Wolf leaves us or not.
I agree with who ever said they would perfer Scream from Magic Mountain. But Six Flags would never remove a caoster from MM. NEVER. So we'll have to make due with Chang. But being totally serious, could any body on this forum really truthfully say the don't want Chang even a little. SFGAM needs a new large scale attraction. We haven't had one since 2003 (not including HH). This ride coud be exactly what the park needs. A 5 inversion stand up that is over 150 feet tall. We might know its used, but the average person doesn't know, and probably doesn't care. I would take Chang in my park any day of the week.
I agree with who ever said they would perfer Scream from Magic Mountain. But Six Flags would never remove a caoster from MM. NEVER. So we'll have to make due with Chang
SFMM just removed 2 coasters, and who knows where Screamscape got that Chang rumor.
The whole Chang thing really doesn't add up. It does make sense for they would want to get rid of it (reasons above for "killing" the park). However where would it be put, and how can they really market a second identical coaster? Alright, so they are not identical but they are pretty much the same thing. With the whole "OMFG we got two mice" thing that could actually be marketed as 2 different coasters (different theme, different manufacture, ect). Its like saying "why would they build two different wooden coasters".
Another thing is the space in the park. Sure we have plenty of room for a new coaster however just looking at the park satellite image there's no place for it to be dropped unless they remove a coaster or other attractions. The only spot that would seem to work is if they removed Iron Wolf, CCN, and Wilderness Theater. And even then its VERY tight fit, even then it seems like they would also have to remove a flume. The other spot would be GAm Raceway, Splash, Demon, Amp Theater...unless there is some way they can interlock it with Demon.
Other then that, If they get rid of SSA, Go Carts, some of the parking they could slap it in there. But that would then prevent them from adding any other HH additions.
As its been said, KK is probably the next Geagua Lake. By removing their larggest atraction, it will definatly help lower their attendance, and, in essence, kill the park faster.
Uhhhhh, no.
If SF wanted KK closed, they'd do it. No use in losing money for another few years...
I would also like to throw in my 2 cents and say that this is one of the dumbest rumors I've ever heard.
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Do you guys not understand what is going on here? They are Removing Chang due to Low Attendance and Expanding their Waterpark to Encourage More Multi Day Stays. They are also removing Chang and expanding the Waterpark to Reduce Operation Costs. Thus they can reopen Twisted Twins.
Twisted Twins will not be reopening, the trains from Twisted Twins have arrived at SFStL to be scrapped for parts. In the near future I see the entire back half of SFKK being a waterpark. The waterpark is and always has been far more popular than the rides part of the park.
Favorite Wood Coasters: The Voyage, Ravine Flyer II, Thunderhead, Balder Favorite Steel: Voltron Nevera, Steel Vengeance, Expedition GeForce, Olympia Looping Parks visited: 232, Coasters Ridden: Steel: 894, Wood: 179, Total: 1073
There is zero chance Twisted Twins is re-opening. I walked the area around the outside of the ride(which is outside the park) and the ride area is overrun by plants and weeds. The ride area looks like it has been dormant for 10 or so years. It would take them a year alone just to clean the area up. Plus they would have to clean the area where the drag racing cars were and Mile High Falls.
When I was there last month, the Water Park was packed. It looked like Hurricane Harbor on a regular Summer day with the line for Deluge being huge. The amusement park, however, was walk-on on every single ride except Road Runner Express. When you have a Shuttle coaster with walk-on front row, there is a huge problem.
I'm a bit surprised that this is the only rumor going around for our park, and that is a 2001 rumor. Last year, we were getting hints of BB. I believe the teaser of the pirate signs were up in August. Since we see little activity with getting a new attraction, my best guess is that we are getting a new parade, 10 more Johnny Rockets, or some type of addition to Hurricane Harbor. It would be cool if we had a return of "Tidal Wave" but I believe that's unlikely to happen. I'm not too thrilled about Chang, but if we do get it, at least it's a big coaster, and it would get complaints of it being a short ride, or it being a rough ride because from what I hear and see, it's not.
Hey just joined the forum after reading this site for a while. Anywho when I went to the site I clicked on USDA, I got sent to square dancing Maybe its going to be another theatre/ show or a family oreiented project (again)? Also this was on there djlkfnaoiurgoirogijnroigjoiwrg anyone good at word scamblers?
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I get the feeling that's been hacked. I don't think any company would make mention of Salmonella in any hints or other official announcements. Unless of course there were to be a salmonella outbreak within or involving the park.
As for square dancing, there's no ride besides a breakdance that you could realistically theme to square dancing
Favorite Wood Coasters: The Voyage, Ravine Flyer II, Thunderhead, Balder Favorite Steel: Voltron Nevera, Steel Vengeance, Expedition GeForce, Olympia Looping Parks visited: 232, Coasters Ridden: Steel: 894, Wood: 179, Total: 1073
Maybe its going to be another theatre/ show or a family oreiented project (again)?
nah you're probably right though