going to level with everyone, haven't looked at them, heading over to someones house and I need the link in an easy to find place
Will comment later, though I noticed (as the top and bottom 10 are posted on RRC) and PGA Grizzly is still in the bottom spot, so I know the world is still all good
Favorite Wood Coasters: The Voyage, Ravine Flyer II, Thunderhead, Balder Favorite Steel: Voltron Nevera, Steel Vengeance, Expedition GeForce, Olympia Looping Parks visited: 232, Coasters Ridden: Steel: 894, Wood: 179, Total: 1073
Wow, T-Express got first. It looks great, but I don't know about first. And, it makes me sad to see Grizzly last. It's actually a decent ride, and not nearly as bad as other woodies I've ridden.
Yeah, that's why it got the #1 spot. I'm sure it's a pretty good ride, but it's probably not that much better than el toro. I'm sure that they're just saying it's SO much better than el toro, because they know that there is nobody else who will be able to disagree with them. That's how they sell their trips. I'm sure next year Balder will win, because that's where one of their trips is.
FParker185 wrote:well, looked over the list and nothing really shocking.
For T-express I dont know if it's so much as Robb Alveys trip so much as that the way the poll is set up it's weighted towards lesser ridden coasters.
I see that is being more true then anything. I mean, T Express had only 1 vote more then the minimum amount of votes needed to count. Evel Knievel was my number 1 wood coaster, but I've also only ridden 8 wooden coasters. With only 34 votes, one first place vote gives a huge swing to a coaster.
With that said, I have no doubt that Robb's view influence a lot of people. I also have no doubt that the list is a huge selling point for the trips and I can't blame them for that in the least. If you can market a trip from the year before as having the number #1 coaster in the world, more power to you.
That is not the only problem with the poll. I don't get why certain SNBO rides count period. Screechin' Eagle has not ran for 5 years, yet is one position lower then our Viper. The same goes true for Mega Zeph at #72 which has no signs of ever running again.
Just a few thoughts, but still the best list we have going.
The SBNO coasters are there to create intrest, I mean with Aska rated as high as it is a park could pick it up on the cheap and have a top rated woodie, same with the others. and it is about as accurate as they come seeing as all results are based off of mutral ridership only
The polls are weighted by ranking X how many coasters that person has ridden.
So if you have ridden 800+ coasters and you ranked a coaster #1 it will be HIGHLY rated. Since Robb and Elissa have ridden about 1,000 coasters, and no one has really ridden T-Express they ranked it #1 to get interest in TPR.
No if you ranked, lets say TTD, as number one but you have only been on 20 coasters you vote will have little impact on the poll.
MForce4ever wrote:The SBNO coasters are there to create intrest, I mean with Aska rated as high as it is a park could pick it up on the cheap and have a top rated woodie, same with the others. and it is about as accurate as they come seeing as all results are based off of mutral ridership only
But no park in their right mind would buy a coaster based on an internet poll. While I like the poll, it means nothing to the parks or public compared to the Golden Ticket awards.
Parks go Ga Ga for these type of polls. Whenever a coaster is even ranked in the top ten during its first year of operation a park will market the crap out of the poll. That is why the Golden Ticket Awards are actually important to a park. For a smaller park, even a poll like this could help market the ride.
Top 5 wood-5-Goliath 4-Ravine Flyer II 3-Phoenix 2-Voyage 1-El Toro Top 5 Steel- 5-Velocicoaster 4- Maverick 3- Fury 325 2-Steel Vengeance 1-X2 Coaster Count: 444
w00dland wrote:Parks go Ga Ga for these type of polls. Whenever a coaster is even ranked in the top ten during its first year of operation a park will market the crap out of the poll. That is why the Golden Ticket Awards are actually important to a park. For a smaller park, even a poll like this could help market the ride.
Yes, but the Golden Tickets actually mean something due to the Discovery Channel, Travel channel and History Channel promoting the hell out of them. I'm not sure how any park could say with a straight face "the best wooden coaster in the world based what 14 people thought out of 629 on the Mitch Hawker website poll." I am well aware that is not what they would say, they would leave out the whole Mitch Hawker part, but the same hold true. At least with the Golden Ticket people can say "wow, that's the award we saw on TV, it really means something."
Being named number #1 on this poll is kind of like getting an ACE plaque at your park. It does a PR job for around a week max then just takes up space. People may read the plaque on Batman and think it is neat, but it is never brought up again. I'm not saying the poll is not the best we have and a good poll overall, more of just a statement of fact.
My point was more on the SBNO rides being included. I fail to see how including them will do any more to save a ride. If all 629 people voted for, lets say, Mega Zeph number 1, then maybe something could happen. It would show an entire community thought it was the best and must be saved.
Mitch Hawkers poll holds just as much weight with the public as the amusement today poll, the GP have never heard of either, and probably don't care about either, they just see the huge banner that says that whatever coaster was voted #1 by people who supposedly know what they are talking about, and they get all impressed. Also Mitch Hawkers poll will always be more accurate than Amusement Today. Amusement today usually ends up being a Cedar Fair commercial.
Favorite Wood Coasters: The Voyage, Ravine Flyer II, Thunderhead, Balder Favorite Steel: Voltron Nevera, Steel Vengeance, Expedition GeForce, Olympia Looping Parks visited: 232, Coasters Ridden: Steel: 894, Wood: 179, Total: 1073
