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Postby tp41190 on November 13th, 2008, 12:36 am
^Sure they could. But if your dangling you legs are going to point down (most likely). Then when you dive down into the pretzel loop you legs would keep getting pulled down and your body rotates. By the time you hit the bottom your legs are in your face then SNAP!

Again, anything could happen...but do I feel unsafe on coasters? NO.
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Postby JordanSDMF on November 13th, 2008, 12:51 am
OHHH I get it.
Yeah, I feel safe, I just feel uncomfortable looking straight down with only a restraint holding you in.

And odd question, but were flying coasters made to ride while not in flying position as well?
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Postby Coastermonkey61 on November 13th, 2008, 2:27 am
I've had that "one-click" thing happen to me on Viper. For a ride that thrives on airtime and barely banked turns, it scared the s*** out of me.
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Postby tp41190 on November 13th, 2008, 11:26 am
When you mean "one click" do you mean it opened a click or was just down one click? Because I usually can get a ride where my lap bar is only down one click with the forward slide technique. And with a loose seat belt you can have lots of floating moments...especially on Viper :D

On Avalanche in the Dells we got a one click ride with no seat belt. That was fun in the back row but obviously we were holding on.

On Hades during ERT they weren't even really checking lap bars. So I got a 1 click ride in the back row. The pre lift hills are ejector so those were kind of fun. But then on the first drop my seat belt came undone and it was pure free fall all the way down the lift not touching the seat at all. It was scary and fun. Later that day the same thing happened on Cyclops in the back row. Me and another ACEr went down the ejector hill and our seat belt came undone :lol:

Then on Opa (cajun clone with individual lap bars) our lap bars just completely opened up mid ride.
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Postby Jackluver18 on November 13th, 2008, 12:29 pm
tp41190 wrote:When you mean "one click" do you mean it opened a click or was just down one click? Because I usually can get a ride where my lap bar is only down one click with the forward slide technique. And with a loose seat belt you can have lots of floating moments...especially on Viper :D

On Avalanche in the Dells we got a one click ride with no seat belt. That was fun in the back row but obviously we were holding on.

On Hades during ERT they weren't even really checking lap bars. So I got a 1 click ride in the back row. The pre lift hills are ejector so those were kind of fun. But then on the first drop my seat belt came undone and it was pure free fall all the way down the lift not touching the seat at all. It was scary and fun. Later that day the same thing happened on Cyclops in the back row. Me and another ACEr went down the ejector hill and our seat belt came undone :lol:

Then on Opa (cajun clone with individual lap bars) our lap bars just completely opened up mid ride.



It just opened a click, I had pulled it all the way down to my stomach like it was all the way, it couldn't go anymore.
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Postby DejaVu2001 on November 13th, 2008, 3:28 pm
tp41190 wrote:Because I usually can get a ride where my lap bar is only down one click with the forward slide technique. And with a loose seat belt you can have lots of floating moments...especially on Viper :D

On Avalanche in the Dells we got a one click ride with no seat belt. That was fun in the back row but obviously we were holding on.

On Hades during ERT they weren't even really checking lap bars. So I got a 1 click ride in the back row. The pre lift hills are ejector so those were kind of fun. But then on the first drop my seat belt came undone and it was pure free fall all the way down the lift not touching the seat at all. It was scary and fun. Later that day the same thing happened on Cyclops in the back row. Me and another ACEr went down the ejector hill and our seat belt came undone :lol:

People like you are an absolute disgrace to all coaster enthusiasts. :evil: Lapbars are designed to hold riders in when they are tight. Restraints are not going to hold someone in when you have 12 inches between the bar and your lap, nor will a seatbelt work when it has 2 feet of slack. :roll: People can and have been ejected from rides and died from using the restraint devices in an inappropriate and ineffective manner. Your reckless (and completely stupid and immature) behavior is putting yourself and everyone around you at risk of severe injury or death. The restraints are not there just for looks, USE THEM . . . .
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Postby SixFlagsGuy76 on November 13th, 2008, 5:19 pm
Isn't bragging about breaking a park rule cause for being banned from this website?
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Postby onyxhotel08 on November 13th, 2008, 5:30 pm
Nah, it hasn't stopped them before.
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Postby DejaVu2001 on November 13th, 2008, 5:31 pm
^^ It would appear so :wink:
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Postby onyxhotel08 on November 13th, 2008, 5:36 pm
^^^We shall see...
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Postby tp41190 on November 13th, 2008, 6:53 pm
Actually the one click thing on Viper has only happened a few times otherwise I always get stappled. And the seat belt is the primary restraint since its the closest to your body. I don't do the 1 click thing at SFGAm anymore after I heard about the accident at Holiday World. I'm not stupid anymore...I was and I will admit it.

Now in the Dells it was different.

Hades- I had my seat belt tight and it came loose, I had nothing to do with it and some people around me were doing the same. And after that I had my lap bar all the way down the rest of the ride and the rest of the cycles and that was the last time I ever did that.

Cyclops- The belt came un-done from the massive amount of -G and the lap bar is there in a fixed position.

Avalanche- We had 40+ laps that day and me and my friend were talking to the Op and he was even telling us how he would ride it with no restraints. And he let us do the same...but we were not that dumb to have the lap bar all the way up and we only did it once.

Look after time I learned and I made stupid choices. But I am not bragging about doing it every time I go and I haven't done it at SFGAm in years because your right it is stupid.
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Postby JordanSDMF on November 13th, 2008, 7:50 pm
^He would ride it with NO RESTRAINTS?
NO WAY, haha
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Postby tp41190 on November 13th, 2008, 7:58 pm
^Seriously, and I can see it. Avalanche in the back really is just half-floater when its empty and since its poor condition it lost almost all of its airtime. We made good conversation with him and he gave us 15 min ride on the bumper boats. We asked if we could get a free spin on the Sky Scraper and he said if he could he would. He also let us do POV and we got a few re-rides without getting off since its a new policy.
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Postby Coastermonkey61 on November 13th, 2008, 8:40 pm
My "one click experience" occurred when I was on the ride. I flew out of my seat on that double drop part and the bar went up a notch. It was terrifying.
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Postby SixFlagsGuy76 on November 13th, 2008, 9:57 pm
onyxhotel08 wrote:^^^We shall see...


Ooh! Speaking of forum rules, your signature is too long! I went and looked at the forum rules!
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Postby FParker185 on November 14th, 2008, 4:53 pm
Holiday World was no accident.

I've had many one click rides on many coasters, including a one click ride on a Gerstlauer train which is effectively having no restraint (basically the same as one click on American Eagle), as long as you dont do anything stupid, I can think of one or maybe 5 coasters tops that can actually throw a properly seated rider from a train with no restraints.
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Postby tp41190 on November 14th, 2008, 7:39 pm
^See and that's another thing that I just remembered. If you have a high lap bar and the attendants check it, how is that breaking a rule? Also I was not standing up on the coasters which is a rule and I did not break it.
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Postby DejaVu2001 on November 14th, 2008, 7:51 pm
^ If you have your lapbar high and the attendant doesn't lower it, they should be fired.
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Postby FParker185 on November 14th, 2008, 10:29 pm
for me this was during an organized event with management supervision. In fact the mother of the owner of the park personally checked my one click lapbar on the Gerstlauer. Before the Bi+ch flew out of Ra_ve_n at H @W (nobody touch the space, @ and underscoring, I don't need to recieve a tresspass notice in the mail) but alot of parks were rather lax during events in the past as there are very few coasters that are hazardous to ride without restraint.
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Postby onyxhotel08 on November 15th, 2008, 1:12 am
SixFlagsGuy76 wrote:
onyxhotel08 wrote:^^^We shall see...


Ooh! Speaking of forum rules, your signature is too long! I went and looked at the forum rules!


I like my signature thank you very much!
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Postby JordanSDMF on November 15th, 2008, 2:08 am
^Yeah, but if you slide forward in your seat to fake like it is snug, that is kind of breaking the rules. It's not the staff's fault if you lie.
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Postby FParker185 on November 15th, 2008, 6:37 pm
yes, sliding forward in the seats would have been abusing the privilege we were afforded at the time. If you try that now at at least one park that comes to mind, you will be ejected from the park without refund and given a lifetime band. Even if they don't see it, if there is hearsay on the internet that you have done such a thing you will be served with papers informing you of your lifetime ban and how felony trespassing works in Indiana.
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Postby ben_the_bear on November 18th, 2008, 1:05 am
One click rides really aren't that big of a deal. It kind of ruins the ride, because when you transition from neg to pos g's the transition isn't as smooth and it ruins the ride in a way. It's unsafe if you don't know what you're doing and it's a terrible idea at a six flags or cedar fair park, because you risk losing your pass or worse.
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Postby tillenterprises on December 10th, 2008, 1:31 pm
It's so weird that you bring this up- in the back of my mind, I always worry a little about what would happen should the restraints open up on Superman or Raging Bull. I started subconsiously wrapping my legs around the center bar on Bull, not that that would probably help much if the bar opened, but it is more comfortable going up the lift anyway. (incidentally, after the GD accident in Kentucky, I noticed that I started sticking my feet straight out while riding the GD- also keeps the blood from rushing up from your feet during the drop) What's kind of scary is that nobody has yet piped in with why this can never happen due to some failsafe mechanism. I'm assuming they have something to prevent this from happening, but could operator error or some other malfunction ever cause the restraints to open mid-ride? On a side note- my wife had her restraint slightly pop open a click or two on Batman at St. Louis. It was right at the top of the hill about to go down the drop and then, as the ride got going it clicked tighter again. Scared the heck out of her, and when she told the ride operator about it, it seemed like he didn't believe her, or didn't care.
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Postby tp41190 on December 10th, 2008, 3:24 pm
I noticed that I started sticking my feet straight out while riding the GD


That would make it easier for it to be a "walk-on/roll off" ride. Because if the cable were dangling, it would be over your head and then wrap around your legs. But if your feet were under there would be nothing for the cable to wrap around...except your head.
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