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Ways to Improve Mount Olympus

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Postby Coaster Justin on November 3rd, 2007, 1:23 pm
I tend to have a habit of writing park business letters with suggestions for improvements and modifications. I have a few ideas and I would like to hear everyone's ideas for the park. I need help with this letter, so any imput would be great.



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Postby Galvan on November 3rd, 2007, 1:28 pm
Im not sure, but I dont think a business owner receiving a letter about how to better there business would have THAT much of an impact.

I guess if 300,000 people sent the same thing it could work.

Nevertheless, Mt. Olympus needs to improve there employee practices, When I was there the employees where very slow and unable to speak english. In an emergency situation that is extremely important.

Im interested to hear your ideas. As long as they dont include "building the tallest and fastest whatever and adding 7 new coasters."


That would be a little unrealistic :D
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Postby Coaster Justin on November 3rd, 2007, 1:50 pm
Well if you want my ideas:

Coasters
- B&M Floorless Coaster
- B&M Hyper Coaster
- Vekoma Boomerang with Lap Bars
- Vekoma SLC with Redesigned Trains
- Intamin or Premier Rides Accelerator Coaster

Amusement Rides
- Huss Giant Frisbee
- Huss Rodeo
- Huss Giant Top Spin
- Huss Topple Tower
- Chance Aviator
- Zamperla Power Surge
- Intamin Stand Up Gyro Drop
- Intamin Coaster Wheel
- Intamin Super Bounty
- Chance Carousel
- Zierer Wave Swinger
- Eli Bridge Scrambler
- Chance Wipeout
- Chance Electric Car Ride
- Bumper Cars
- Sally Interactive Dark Ride
- Intamin River Rapids Ride

Shows
- Motion Simulator
- Outdoor Theater
- Indoor Theater
- Indoor Theater

Waterpark
- Proslide Tornado
- Proslide Behemoth Bowl
- 7 Body and Tube Slide Complex
- Giant Family Water Play Area
- Proslide HydroMagnetic Zip Coaster Waterslide with LIM’s

Improvements
- Have More Shading
- More In Park Entertainment
- 2-3 More Sit Down Restaurants
- Halloween Event
- Improve Theme Park Capacity
- Give Hades a Second Train
- Spend about 10 Million on Landscaping for the Theme Park
- Make the park so the walkway is a loop
- Divide the park into different themed areas


Most of the Coasters were chosen to give the Park more diversity.

The amusement rides were chosen becuase a park can't just be Coasters, Go Karts, Kids Rides, and Waterpark and the rides would make the park more rounded.
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Postby tp41190 on November 3rd, 2007, 4:33 pm
Yeah but Mt Olympus is a "small town, rustic" park. You cannot turn it into another Six Flags/Cedar Fair because that would not fit. For one, it is cheap, there already is a diversity of water attractions, go carts, and coasters. I do agree though that we need a few more flats, thats where the park is lacking But I think that anymore then 2 more big ones will be too much. Maybe a Giant Frisbee, and a Chair Swing. in my opinion, I would NEVER like to see a 'full sized' steel coaster begin put into Mt Olympus, and I'm not counting Dive to Atlantis, or Opa. The park is fine just the way it is with its collection of wooden attractions. Also, Mt Olympus is geared to the "middle class, long week, camper, vacationer". If we were to get all those things then the price would go up.

The number one priority for the park should be adding a transfer track and a second train to Hades. Even on a weekday, the line gets to about an hour. And the ride is so long that it moves really slow. Its ok for Cyclops, Zues, Pegasus because those are really short rides.

Right now, the park is fine the way it is...cheap and small but still able to hold a large crowd on a summer Saturday. I do think that we need some sort of guest relations for next year, because I don't even want to think about all the problems people have had in the past and not been able to resolve them. Along with guest relations, so extra security would be good to.....
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Postby rct2wizard360 on November 3rd, 2007, 4:38 pm
Yeah, it sounds like you're turning into another CF/Six Flags like tp said.
And also agreeing with TP, they need to focus on adding second train to Hades.
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Postby tp41190 on November 3rd, 2007, 7:11 pm
TP stands for "theme park".

My original username was "benzo41190" but when I tried to log in it didn't work anymore...i think it was because I haven't posted in a long time.

My real name is Ben Schmitt.
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Postby BP317 on November 3rd, 2007, 7:47 pm
I don't think Lasarkis has heard of most of that stuff.
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Postby Coaster Justin on November 3rd, 2007, 9:31 pm
Watch this if you need a laugh (Let me just say it might remind you of Iron Wolf)). It's clean but I don't recommend you watch it at work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Riof3CoMtfY
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Postby sfgam1992 on November 3rd, 2007, 9:58 pm
^ That video is great.
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Postby BrianPlencner on November 4th, 2007, 6:50 pm
Yeah..I like Frank Caliendo as well. This clip is the best

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5jF-v0lp4I&NR=1

But, to keep things on topic....

Mount O does not need any more rides, IMHO. However, I think they should look at improving on what they have, without adding more rides. The things you list in your improvements section are what I'm thinking of.

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Postby tp41190 on November 4th, 2007, 10:04 pm
^but you have to think, its the dells. there not going to spend money on something if it wont bring in crowds.

Can you imagine if they were to put a second train on Hades. "New for 2008, a SECOND TRAIN ON HADES"! OMG
They also closed two of the go-carts and just left them sitting there. Mt Olympus refuses to spend money if it wont help crowds....thats how all of the dells is.

Besides, to them, a long line on Hades means "its a popular ride". When in reality it is, "its a long ride (more then 3 mins), with slow crews, and a 20 person train.
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Postby cycamps on November 4th, 2007, 10:23 pm
I've never made it there so I wouldn't know... :?
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Postby w00dland on November 5th, 2007, 4:29 am
They need to teach their employees that sitting on the coaster track while the ride is running is a bad thing....

But I'll agree with Brian on his comment as well. They really need to make the park look better. Trees, theming, etc. One nice show would be an awesome addition as well. They totally have the capitol to keep all their customers in WI, now its just time to make their stay a memorable one.
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Postby Trailblazer Tony on November 5th, 2007, 1:19 pm
I've never been there neither, but with and indoor AND outdoor waterpark as well as many flats, dozens of go-kart tracks and five coasters, i think more rides is the last thing this park needs. I think the money should be spent making it seem more like a theme park, rather than a coaster and go-kart carnival that happens to share a sidewalk with a waterpark complex....
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Postby Danhockey04 on November 5th, 2007, 2:32 pm
/\ Flats? What flats are we talking about here. Disc'O, that is the only one that I recall that isn't kiddie and isn't upcharge.
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Postby Coaster Justin on November 5th, 2007, 3:48 pm
Maybe I did go a little extreme with my list. But the park looks boring after Hades, Cyclops, and Zeus. It looks like they are adding stuff that they rode in the 70s. I mean nothing in the waterpark looks really special. (No Tornado, Behemoth Bowl, Racing Slides, Master Blaster, Raft Ride, etc.) The Parthenon is just really Opa and DiskO and carnival things. Zeus felt like it was really rough, Hades took forever (I ran out of jokes to tell people). Dive to Atlantis's line is worse then DeJaVu (It has lower ride capacity and takes longer to go through). If I had a full day to spend there, I would probably be really bored by 1 or 2 p.m. I haven't been there since 2005 and I didn't go in the waterpark. The park just needs some newer coasters and flats and leave the waterpark alone (Did they really need to add a second wave pool)? By focusing just on the theme park, they win an untapped audience in the Dells. (Yes I know Riverview Park has rides and so does Timber Falls)

My Coaster Wishlist:

http://rcdb.com/ig1414.htm?picture=28

http://rcdb.com/ig1574.htm?picture=1

http://rcdb.com/ig2169.htm?picture=19


My Amusement Ride Wishlist:

http://flatrides.com/Ride%20Index%20Pag ... isbee.html

http://flatrides.com/Ride%20Index%20Pag ... eship.html

http://flatrides.com/Ride%20Index%20Pag ... ousel.html

http://www.hussrides.com/5-ClassicToppleTower.htm


My Waterpark Wish List:

http://www.proslide.com/sub.php?mainRideID=4&rideID=10


My suggestions were based on my opinion that the park is a little boring if you don't like gokarts and you don't like waterparks.


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Postby Galvan on November 5th, 2007, 4:07 pm
^ LMAO


Anything else? Unless Bill Gates personally funds this park your idea is very unrealistic.

Your coasters alone count for about 60 million.


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Postby rct2wizard360 on November 5th, 2007, 4:41 pm
Silver Star alone is probably over the parks yearly budget.
In fact I'm pretty sure every coaster on that list is.

They aren't trying to be a HUGE Six Flags/Cedar Fair style park. They clearly don't bring in enough money to even come close to that. They are just a local park with a few good coasters, and thats all they need to be.

Besides, it would be a HUGE waste considering the park is open two months less than Six Flags, which is what, maybe two hours away?

Plus I don't think the employees have leg room when sitting on that B&M track. :lol:
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Postby Coaster Justin on November 5th, 2007, 6:05 pm
How About a Few Flat Rides?

- A Delirium Type Ride (That will draw people).

- A Top Spin ride that does 107 flips like that video FParker showed us (Would that even be legal in the US).

- How about a Drop Zone ride like the One at Kings Island.

- How About a River Rapids Type Ride.

- What About a Sally Interactive Dark Ride like Challenge of Tutonkommen or however you spell it. (My family laughs everytime I mention Europe and They could theme this to Greek really well).

- How about a Carousel (Isn't there a rule that every park has to have a carousel?)

Just a few major flat rides here and there to increase the park capacity and reduce lines is all I'm asking. My families 5 year contract for the park expires in 2010 and Opa is all they've added that interests me. For realistic coaster ideas:


- How about a Chance Morgan Hyper Coaster like Mamba at Worlds of Fun

- How About a EuroFighter if they're good

- How about a Zamperla MotoCoaster

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Postby Danhockey04 on November 5th, 2007, 7:00 pm
They do have the best waterslide I have been on. The yellow family tube slide is absolutely amazing. They also have racing slides there, the 6-lane mat racers. They just added a new wavepool that has nine foot waves. They are becoming more and more of a waterpark with taking away some of the go-cart tracks for the new wavepool.
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Postby tp41190 on November 5th, 2007, 11:17 pm
^OMG, that slide is awesome. But don't wait more then the platform for it. Sometime the line is 2 hours when I starts at the bottom of the stairs. I went on it with three other adults and we almost flipped the tube on every turn. And off course, I was always on the top of the turn, trying not to fall on my friend, but I gave the best thrill.

Also that pinkish one is cool too if you have four adults. On the third bunny hill, you can feel the tube lift off the slide and catch air for the whole bunny hill.....and thats a HUGE steep bunny hill.

I don't have numbers so I might be wrong.....but if you take the amount of people in the park, which I think is on par with Six Flags on a normal day. And the fact that they don't have a lot of staff, not many rides to maintain, a lot of food income, and a lot of admission income.

Think about it, there are very few people who have a Mt Olympus season pass, unlike Six Flags. So you have large family's coming into the park buying an admission. But they also have free parking.

So I think that they probably have almost the same budget as SFGAm in scale. So even though they don't have enough to buy a new coaster every year....they still are making a huge profit.
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Postby guitarhero119 on November 6th, 2007, 10:18 am
They should buy Deja Vu... :D
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Postby BP317 on November 6th, 2007, 3:57 pm
This is what I would do if I were Bill Lasarkis:

1: Go to his own park as a guest and see how poorly run it is.
2: Try to nab someone from a decent corporate park to be a training/operations fulltime supervisor.
3: Build padlock fences around low points of coasters to prevent any possible future news stories.
4: Hire a fulltime painter.

Just doing that would make Mt. Olympus a completely different experience/much better park.
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Postby rct2wizard360 on November 6th, 2007, 4:48 pm
SFGAm07 wrote:3: Build padlock fences around low points of coasters to prevent any possible future news stories.

SO TRUE.
That low point on Cyclops, someone could easily hop that, or even stick their arm over and get hurt. That's the one thing I hate about that park.
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Postby Coaster Justin on November 6th, 2007, 11:25 pm
I know that they aren't trying to be a Six Flags/ Cedar Fair park but it looks like its a 1/5 completed park. Let Me Explain, say A person who doesn't like waterpark's and is 52 inches tall goes there.

Waterpark : Not Interesting
Outdoor Waterpark : Not Interesting
Kids Rides : Not Interesting
Coasters : Yes
Go Karts : Yes

The park doesn't feel exciting after you ride Hades, Cyclops, and Zeus. What is left? A DiskO, RoboCoaster, Kids Rides, Go Karts, pay rides, and thats just about it. Can You tell me 10 things a 52 inch tall, non waterpark person could do there besides coasters and go karts?

Most of my flat and coaster ideas were chosen to give the park some life and maybe reduce lines elsewhere. Why not an Intamin Gyro Drop taller than Giant Drop, why not a B&M Floorless Coaster like Superman in Spain, why not a B&M Georgia Goliath or Behemoth Clone? Why not a Sally Interactive Dark Ride? I read on Coaster-net that it was rumored of a B&M Floorless Coaster for 2006 so it isn't too far fetched.

Less Money: Why not a River Rapids Ride or Shoot the Chutes (I would love to see Escape from Pompei at the park), Why not a Top Spin, What's wrong with a Motion Simulator, What about a Huss Rodeo or Frisbee, why not a giant amphitheater with concerts, why not a few things that Non-waterpark people can do?

Am I seriously asking to much (They have fewer flat rides than Six Flags Magic Mountain) :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

I also remember reading that Cedar Fair was thinking about buying Mount Olympus but then Geauga Lake went for sale, and we all know what happend. (Sorry Geauga Lake Fanboys, at Least Kennywood is near by and is better than some Cedar Fair parks in overall quality) :cry: :cry:

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