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Pentagon Releases 9/11 Security Video

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Postby rct2wizard360 on May 20th, 2006, 2:13 pm
Can you 100% prove to me that that wreckage is from a 757?

Not look like it.
Not seem like it.

It has to be it.

I just love how the government said the plane basically evaporated because of the heat.

Yet they can identify the bodies inside.

Amazing.
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Postby Director_Guy on May 20th, 2006, 2:44 pm
If it wasn't a plane, what the hell was it? And why wouldn't it be a plane?
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Postby Do I Know You on May 20th, 2006, 2:49 pm
You can't prove anything 100% :roll: The parts found look EXACTLY like that of a 757. There's no denying it. If you can find me a single part found that contradicts the structure of a 757, then I will concede defeat.

Ever toss a beer can into a fire? Notice how it's almost completely gone after a couple minutes?

Bodies don't burn quite as fast.
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Postby rct2wizard360 on May 20th, 2006, 3:05 pm
Note the fact that you said look...

Theres a couple pictures of the supposed fan blades from the turbines.

Rolls Royce makes these for Boeing.
Rolls was contacted about this.
They confirmed that was not a part from any turbine they have made.

But they rather match up with that of a missle...

Not saying it's a missle.
Not saying our government did it.

I'm just saying, it's not a plane.
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Postby Galvan on May 20th, 2006, 3:30 pm
^ American Airlines doesnt use RR engines for there 757s only Pratt and Wittney.

They knew who was on board the plane because of the flight manafest records, come on use your head.

Edit: United Airlines 757s and American Airlines 777 Use Pratt and Wittney engines, American 757s use Rolls Royce Engines
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Postby Do I Know You on May 20th, 2006, 3:44 pm
rct2wizard360 wrote:Note the fact that you said look...

Theres a couple pictures of the supposed fan blades from the turbines.

Rolls Royce makes these for Boeing.
Rolls was contacted about this.
They confirmed that was not a part from any turbine they have made.

But they rather match up with that of a missle...

Not saying it's a missle.
Not saying our government did it.

I'm just saying, it's not a plane.


I'm gonna need a source on that fan thing before I believe it.

Would you mind telling me what this came from?
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Missiles leave a contrail and they don't produce a giant fireball. Where's the contrail? Why did it produce a giant fireball?
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Postby Galvan on May 20th, 2006, 3:50 pm
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1

All the answers are above, knocked out phone poles, wingspan, engine parts, everything.
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Postby rct2wizard360 on May 20th, 2006, 4:49 pm
Do I Know You wrote:
Missiles leave a contrail and they don't produce a giant fireball. Where's the contrail? Why did it produce a giant fireball?


Not all missles leave a contrail.

Also, there was no giant fireball.

The FAA has done plane crash tests, and they let off a lot bigger of a fireball then that seen in the photo's of the Pentagon.

The point of this argument goes no where though.

I say on both parts...

they should tell us what the hell happened either way.
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Postby msoeagle on May 20th, 2006, 4:56 pm
Im sure since the Pentagon is the most secure building in the country(or at least thats what they tell us) there would be numerous security cameras that saw it. There has to be some more outside that caught it and some inside the building.
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Postby rct2wizard360 on May 20th, 2006, 5:10 pm
^There are.

One at a Gas Station that had full view.
One from the Hyatt a few blocks down that had full view.
One from the Highway sign not more than a few yards away.

FBI took the tapes within 5 minutes.
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Postby msoeagle on May 20th, 2006, 5:24 pm
^ Ok, it would be nice to see those. Im sure one of those has a clear shot of what hit the pentagon. So im not saying that a 757 didn't hit the Pentagon, im saying that I would like more evidence and proof of what really did happen so we can put all these conspiracies to rest.
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Postby Galvan on May 20th, 2006, 5:34 pm
^ By you starting this thread you are saying that a 757 didnt hit the pentagon.

I cant beleive you two are so ignorant to these facts that we've told you, yet you still in your heads beleive that a plane didnt hit the Pentagon, its really really sad.
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Postby msoeagle on May 20th, 2006, 5:38 pm
^ If a plane did hit the pentagon(im not saying it didnt happen) then why wouldnt they have released the videos 5 years ago like they did with the WTC videos? There not telling and showing us all they can.
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Postby Galvan on May 20th, 2006, 5:43 pm
Um the WTC attacks happened on Live TV, not really hard to miss.
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Postby msoeagle on May 20th, 2006, 5:47 pm
^ The first plane that hit the WTC wasnt on live tv. And if the fbi wasn't trying to hide anything they would have released all of the tapes. Im sure that someone who was driving by the pentagon or saw the attack on the pentagon had a camera.
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Postby msoeagle on May 20th, 2006, 6:21 pm
So sorry for the double post but I just watched this video and it doesnt take sides but here is a pretty good video of the pentagon attack. http://www.freedomunderground.org/memor ... ntagon.php
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Postby Do I Know You on May 20th, 2006, 9:13 pm
rct2wizard360 wrote:Not all missles leave a contrail.

Also, there was no giant fireball.

The FAA has done plane crash tests, and they let off a lot bigger of a fireball then that seen in the photo's of the Pentagon.

The point of this argument goes no where though.

I say on both parts...

they should tell us what the hell happened either way.


Name a missile that doesn't leave a contrail.

As for the fireball
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Judging by the size of the Pentagon, I'd say that's 150ft high.

The evidence is greatly stacked against you. You have to explain the 757 parts (you have given no evidence against the fact that they are from a 757) and the fact that the damage is consistent with what a 757 do.

msoeagle wrote:So sorry for the double post but I just watched this video and it doesnt take sides but here is a pretty good video of the pentagon attack. http://www.freedomunderground.org/memor ... ntagon.php


Most of the claims in that video have already been debunked.

Honestly, even if the government was behind it, why would they use two planes in the WTC and another in PA but use a missile for the Pentagon?
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Postby msoeagle on May 20th, 2006, 9:49 pm
Im not saying a 757 didn't hit. Im not saying a missle hit. The fbi needs to release a lot more videos (which I know they have) and pictures so we can get a clear answer. ^ There are also thoughts that the planes that were used to hit the wtc (im not saying that this happened) are cargo planes or military 767's.
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Postby RBull4life on May 20th, 2006, 10:48 pm
There are also thoughts that the planes that were used to hit the wtc (im not saying that this happened) are cargo planes or military 767's


Yeah I have heard somwe of those thoughts, and all I can say is..... :roll:
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Postby msoeagle on May 21st, 2006, 8:53 am
There is more evidence that a 757 hit the pentagon than there is that a missle hit the pentagon. So for now I am convinced that a 757 hit the pentagon.
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Postby Galvan on May 21st, 2006, 10:25 am
There actually is Video of the first plane hitting the WTC.

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/day.section.html

On 9/11/01, A group of French Movie makers was actually with the NYFD and was near theWTC when the first plane hit.

And yes it was an airplane. :roll:
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Postby msoeagle on May 21st, 2006, 1:05 pm
^ Yeah I new it was a plane. :roll: And I know there is a video of it.
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Postby Galvan on May 21st, 2006, 1:40 pm
Msoeagle, give up seriously, Every post you have posted in this thread contradicts your original arguement that the U.S. Government was behind 9/11.

You or Rctwizard360, have done nothing, zero to prove that there was a conspiracy.

As for the idea that cargo planes where used to hit the WTC, your kidding right?

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Postby msoeagle on May 21st, 2006, 1:43 pm
^ Then why are there live videos of a bunch of people saying that cargo planes did hit it right after it got struck?
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Postby Galvan on May 21st, 2006, 1:47 pm
They also had video of people saying a "727" hit the WTC. Most people have no clue about what a Boeing 7 whatever 7 is versus another plane.

Seriously, give it up. This is getting to be as bad as the now imfamous "Target Rosemont Thread"
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