SFGAmWorld.com
Untitled Document
Park Information
Latest News
Great America
Roller Coasters
Rides
Hurricane Harbor
Water Slides
Water Attractions
Advertisement

Pentagon Releases 9/11 Security Video

A Off-Topic forum to discuss things that aren't related to the Amusement Park Industry.
Postby msoeagle on May 17th, 2006, 8:05 pm
So the pentagon released the security tape of AA flight 77 hitting the pentagon. I strongly disagree with that since below is a pic of a AA 757 and it looks nothing like what is shown in the video.

http://www.defenselink.mil/pubs/foi/index.html
Image[/url]
msoeagle

User avatar
 
Posts: 1146
Joined: October 17th, 2005, 3:37 pm
Location: West Bend Wisconsin

Postby Danhockey04 on May 17th, 2006, 10:25 pm
where is the video?
Universal Orlando Mechanical Engineer
Marathon down, Goofy to go.
Danhockey04

User avatar
 
Posts: 2367
Joined: May 17th, 2004, 8:45 pm
Location: Celebration, FL

Postby Do I Know You on May 17th, 2006, 11:06 pm
Does any of this look like a plane to you?

http://www.pentagonresearch.com/080.html
http://www.pentagonresearch.com/081.html
http://www.pentagonresearch.com/082.html
http://www.pentagonresearch.com/083.html
http://www.pentagonresearch.com/084.html

And here's an overlay of the two images that show the objects hitting the pentagon.

Image

Compare the color of that object to the color scheme of an American Airlines plane. Notice how they're both light on top and bottom with a dark strip in the center?
this is a signature
Do I Know You

User avatar
 
Posts: 2120
Joined: March 27th, 2003, 3:42 pm

Postby FRD714 on May 18th, 2006, 6:35 am
Yes the plane kind of slides in and hits the building.
Frank
FRD714

User avatar
 
Posts: 3547
Joined: October 26th, 2005, 4:46 pm
Location: Chicago

Postby RBull4life on May 18th, 2006, 7:35 am
I just saw a white blurr.
If it walks like socialist, quacks like socialist, smells like a socialist, .... it's a socialist. Hope, and change we can believe in.
RBull4life

User avatar
 
Posts: 934
Joined: February 27th, 2004, 12:08 pm
Location: Living in a van down by the river.

Postby msoeagle on May 18th, 2006, 5:11 pm
People do believe that t small commuter plane which could be a AASaab 340 or a Embraer Rejional Jet may have hit the pentagon instead. A 757 would appear much bigger in the video.
msoeagle

User avatar
 
Posts: 1146
Joined: October 17th, 2005, 3:37 pm
Location: West Bend Wisconsin

Postby Do I Know You on May 18th, 2006, 5:18 pm
Perhaps you're underestimating the Pentagon's size: it's roughly 80 feet tall. A 757's fuselage (i.e. the part that did the damage) is around 15ft. Also, a small jet would not have gone as far into the building as a 757 would.
this is a signature
Do I Know You

User avatar
 
Posts: 2120
Joined: March 27th, 2003, 3:42 pm

Postby Galvan on May 18th, 2006, 5:38 pm
Of course theres a white blur. the plane hit the pentagon at 530 MPH.
Image
Galvan
Moderator

User avatar
 
Posts: 3639
Joined: June 30th, 2003, 1:23 am
Location: Montgomery,IL

Postby w00dland on May 18th, 2006, 5:40 pm
Mike, I think you forgot that it was a missle that hit the pentagon, remember?

:roll: :roll: :roll:
Top 5 wood-5-Goliath 4-Ravine Flyer II 3-Phoenix 2-Voyage 1-El Toro
Top 5 Steel- 5-Velocicoaster 4- Maverick 3- Fury 325 2-Steel Vengeance 1-X2
Coaster Count: 444
w00dland
Moderator

User avatar
 
Posts: 4630
Joined: January 29th, 2004, 2:36 pm
Location: Winter Haven, FL

Postby msoeagle on May 18th, 2006, 9:15 pm
Its my opinion. :roll: The little white plane that you see in the corner is MUCH smaller than a 757. I dont know if any of you have ever seen or been on a 757 in person but its much bigger.
msoeagle

User avatar
 
Posts: 1146
Joined: October 17th, 2005, 3:37 pm
Location: West Bend Wisconsin

Postby Do I Know You on May 18th, 2006, 9:50 pm
The size of the object in the video and the hole made in the Pentagon are consistent with that of a Boeing 757. The object is relatively far off in the distance, and the Pentagon looks much shorter than it actually is due to its width.
this is a signature
Do I Know You

User avatar
 
Posts: 2120
Joined: March 27th, 2003, 3:42 pm

Postby FRD714 on May 18th, 2006, 10:16 pm
I went to the Pentagon a year after 9/11, and I was surprised top see how big it actually is.
Frank
FRD714

User avatar
 
Posts: 3547
Joined: October 26th, 2005, 4:46 pm
Location: Chicago

Postby Galvan on May 19th, 2006, 12:19 pm
Lets also not forget the huge peices of um... how do a put this Boeing 757 aircraft that where laying around the building.

How about the reports from the rescuers that recalled body parts of crew members, oh and lets not forget the black box as well.

Next your going to tell us that 9/11 never really happened.

Also:
msoeagle wrote:People do believe that t small commuter plane which could be a AASaab 340 or a Embraer Rejional Jet may have hit the pentagon instead. A 757 would appear much bigger in the video.


American Eagle only operates those types of planes, The Saab 340 was retired from American Eagle i want to say in 1999.
Image
Galvan
Moderator

User avatar
 
Posts: 3639
Joined: June 30th, 2003, 1:23 am
Location: Montgomery,IL

Postby msoeagle on May 19th, 2006, 3:33 pm
Yes I know american eagle only oprates those and the saab 340 is still operated. http://www.aa.com/content/aboutUs/ourPl ... 340B.jhtml
msoeagle

User avatar
 
Posts: 1146
Joined: October 17th, 2005, 3:37 pm
Location: West Bend Wisconsin

Postby Do I Know You on May 19th, 2006, 7:22 pm
The AE color scheme doesn't match up with the plane parts found.
this is a signature
Do I Know You

User avatar
 
Posts: 2120
Joined: March 27th, 2003, 3:42 pm

Postby haydawg149 on May 19th, 2006, 10:30 pm
they say that there is no possible way that a 757 crashed into the building because of the size of the hole and that there would have been skid marks from the plane hitting the ground.. and the highway right across the street from the pentegon... the light poles on the interstate would have been knocked down.. which they werent.....
haydawg149

User avatar
 
Posts: 153
Joined: July 31st, 2005, 7:30 pm

Postby Galvan on May 19th, 2006, 11:07 pm
^ Wrong, they where. several where clipped along the interstate that boarders the Pentagon.
Image
Galvan
Moderator

User avatar
 
Posts: 3639
Joined: June 30th, 2003, 1:23 am
Location: Montgomery,IL

Postby Do I Know You on May 20th, 2006, 12:00 am
The size of the hole is consistent with the size of a 757, too.
this is a signature
Do I Know You

User avatar
 
Posts: 2120
Joined: March 27th, 2003, 3:42 pm

Postby msoeagle on May 20th, 2006, 8:01 am
Take a look at this site it has some diagrams showing the size of the hole compared to the size of a 757.

http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/ ... urs_en.htm
msoeagle

User avatar
 
Posts: 1146
Joined: October 17th, 2005, 3:37 pm
Location: West Bend Wisconsin

Postby Galvan on May 20th, 2006, 10:40 am
So let me get this straight, you are telling us, that The Pentagon did not get hit by a Boeing 757, The people on that plane which was a scheduled revenue flight, with real people, didnt get hijacked, didnt crash into the pentagon and all this was a government conspericy?

If so, what happened to the people in the plane? The Plane itself? its pretty damn hard to "lose" a Boeing 757. How about all the parts of the plane littering the ground around the pentagon, The black box, the crew's charred clothing.


The fact that several eye-wintnesses including airmen from the Air National Guard eye witnessed the whole thing unfold.

So many facts, yet your ignorance to this is astounding.

:roll:
Image
Galvan
Moderator

User avatar
 
Posts: 3639
Joined: June 30th, 2003, 1:23 am
Location: Montgomery,IL

Postby msoeagle on May 20th, 2006, 10:52 am
Im not saying it didnt happen, but its kind of wierd how a 757 makes a whole 1/2 the size of it when it went flying int the pentagon at 500 mph. ANd what kind of fire destroys an entire plan but doesnt destroy the bodies and clothing?
msoeagle

User avatar
 
Posts: 1146
Joined: October 17th, 2005, 3:37 pm
Location: West Bend Wisconsin

Postby Galvan on May 20th, 2006, 11:23 am
1/2 the size according to who? Some Spanish website, that doesnt state the facts and figures around the crash?

The plane slammed into the pentagon at 530 mph, thats like running a coke can over with an 18-wheeler. The plane created a 75 foot diameter crater into the side of the building. That 15 foot hole you mention is from the planes landing gear.
Image
Galvan
Moderator

User avatar
 
Posts: 3639
Joined: June 30th, 2003, 1:23 am
Location: Montgomery,IL

Postby Do I Know You on May 20th, 2006, 1:11 pm
msoeagle wrote:Take a look at this site it has some diagrams showing the size of the hole compared to the size of a 757.

http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/ ... urs_en.htm


Snopes destroyed that site a while ago:
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm
this is a signature
Do I Know You

User avatar
 
Posts: 2120
Joined: March 27th, 2003, 3:42 pm

Postby rct2wizard360 on May 20th, 2006, 1:32 pm
Haha, I'm a conspiracy believer on the Pentagon subject.

Galvan, eyewitness accounts don't do much. Especially when there were about 5 different stories for each thing that happened that day.
Why couldn't they release the tapes from high atop the Hyatt? or the Gas Station across the street? or from the Highway Cams?

This tape has been released for quite some time, and it pretty useless.

Until we see a better tape, none of us can do anything besides speculate.

There's a whole way of proving it with physics and such but well. Let's not get into this.

If anybody wants me to get into this, just go right ahead and ask me.

Until then.
Politics on coaster forums = not good.
rct2wizard360

User avatar
 
Posts: 2996
Joined: December 4th, 2003, 11:23 pm
Location: Mason, Ohio

Postby Do I Know You on May 20th, 2006, 1:47 pm
The AA 757 plane wreckage found is pretty damning to conspiracy theorists' ideas.
this is a signature
Do I Know You

User avatar
 
Posts: 2120
Joined: March 27th, 2003, 3:42 pm

Next

Return to Off-Topic Forum

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 8 guests

Privacy Policy About Us Copyright Disclaimer E-Mail SFGAmWorld
COPYRIGHT - SFGAmWorld.com
All content and images on this site are Copyright 2001 - SFGAmWorld.com and may not be used without permission.
This is NOT the official site of Six Flags Great America, SFGAmWorld.com is not affilated or endorsed by Six Flags Great America.
SFGAmWorld.com does not make any guarantee on the accuracy of the information on this website and cannot be held responsible by the use of this information.
SIX FLAGS and all related indicia are trademarks of Six Flags Theme Parks Inc. ®, TM and © . The official Six Flags site can be found at SixFlags.com
BATMAN, SUPERMAN and all related characters and elements are trademarks of © DC Comics.
LOONEY TUNES and all related characters and elements are trademarks of and © Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc.©
The Wiggles Pty Ltd. SCOOBY-DOO and all related characters and elements are trademarks of and © Hanna-Barbera.