TTD vs. Raging Bull

[Chirojon]

I'm just curious on this one. Hypothetically, if SFGA were to have only one of these two and not the other, which one would you guys vote for (who have or have not been on it)if you have been on both of them, please explain your decisionI'm so curious as to how TTD is like....I can't imagine coasters getting much better than RBbut, please...humor me with this survey.... I want to know what everyone thinks

[coasterguy]

I have been on them both and I would definatly go TTD. Where else can you go 120 mph in 4 sec. and 420ft tall on a roller coaster. The launch, speed and drop are amazing!! Raging Bull is a great ride don't get me wrong, but I must say TTD and Millennium Force are better. I also like TTD more than Millennium Force. You can experience rides like Raging Bull elsewhere. You cannot experience a ride like TTD nowhere else. Xcelerator at Knotts is about half the size and speed of TTD! And from a standpoint that if I hadn't been on TTD, it would be nice to have a couple of records at Great America. For a little while.

[SFGAmfreak4life]

We had records in the past. We dont have to have records. CP loves having records. Thats pretty much the only reason why the built TTD.

[coastrcorey]

I would go with TTD, just because it's so big, and fast. And yeah, I know bigger and faster isn't always better, but in this case I think it is.

[GamRCFreak]

TTD is not bigger, it is merely taller and faster.I would prefer to have Raging Bull. Just because it is much more reliable, it has a significantly greater capacity, and I prefer the thrill of the layout of RB rather than the awesome launch, high-hat, and spiral drop of TTD. Yes TTD is a great ride, but as great as launched coasters are, nothing beats the anticipation of going up a lift hill. The stop before the launch is nice, but you just dont have the same experience.

[CoasterDave316]

I haven't rode TTD yet, and don't plan on doing so this year. Instead im planning on riding Xcelerator, to me that ride looks more worth it then TTD. I don't care how awesome the ride is, im not going to wait 5 hours for a 16 second ride. I would much rather wait for Raging Bull.

[coastrcorey]

Ooook... Sorry Mr. Technical, it's "Taller". Thank you for correcting me . And since we are going to be so picky, it's not a high-hat (that would be a cymbal, I play drums), it's a top-hat. And, technically, Raging Bull doesn't have that much greater of a capacity... Raging Bull's is 1500 pph, and TTD's when operating at it's fullest is 1560 pph. And besides, now that it has the 2 extra seats in every train, that will add a 10% increase to it's capacity.Thank you, come again! P.S. I wasn't trying to sound snotty, just so you don't start flaming me for that or anything lol.

[CoasterDave316]

yeah, umm sure...TTD running at full capacity. That will be the day Deja Vu Runs!

[coasterguy]

TTD is not bigger, it is merely taller and faster.I would prefer to have Raging Bull. Just because it is much more reliable, it has a significantly greater capacity, and I prefer the thrill of the layout of RB rather than the awesome launch, high-hat, and spiral drop of TTD. Yes TTD is a great ride, but as great as launched coasters are, nothing beats the anticipation of going up a lift hill. The stop before the launch is nice, but you just dont have the same experience.

You would actually be suprised TTD Has ALOT of Anticipation time when you are in the pre launch stage. It has at least a minute. So there might be more on TTD.

[SFGAmfreak4life]

I dont think that they call that a Top Hat on TTD. A top hat would be the inversion seen on Mr. Freeze and on the Batman side of Batman and Robin: The Chiller

[coasterguy]

I haven't rode TTD yet, and don't plan on doing so this year. Instead im planning on riding Xcelerator, to me that ride looks more worth it then TTD. I don't care how awesome the ride is, im not going to wait 5 hours for a 16 second ride. I would much rather wait for Raging Bull.

It was only a 5 hour line on opening day. Now it is only 1.5-2 hour wait. But If it breaks down like it usually does it could add a hour or so, like it did to me.

[GamRCFreak]

I dont think that they call that a Top Hat on TTD. A top hat would be the inversion seen on Mr. Freeze and on the Batman side of Batman and Robin: The Chiller

As I've understood it, and correct me if I'm wrong, A top hat is more of an inversion like on Mr. Freeze and a high hat (also a set of two symbols with the top hooked to a foot pedal) is the type of hill on Xcelerator/TTD.As far as capacity goes, Has TTD even run at full capacity yet? I know that in the next few years it might as they are still working out the kinks of a new and very innovative ride. The fact is that it hasn't been at full capacity.RB runs 3 trains for most of the summer. Even in its first year RB was running at full capacity. Although it wasn't the first hyper, it was a new concept as both RB and Apollo's Chariot at BGW opened in 1999 as the first B&M hypers. It ran very smoothly and is still one of the more reliable rides at SFGAM. I can't even remember going a day and having it closed all day due to something other than extreme weather conditions.Sorry about the comment about the ride being taller, not bigger. It was just some stupid symantecs that I can get caught up with. This is just my opinion based on my own experience. I will be heading down to CP this weekend and hopefully will get to ride dragster. My opinion might change. I definately believe that dragster is an amazing ride. But as far as having Raging Bull or Dragster, I choose Raging Bull.I wonder if this topic would be more one sided if the choices were Deja Vu and TTD, or even X or TTD. Just something to think about.

[coastrcorey]

Well, on CoasterForce.com (not to say that that site knows all) it calls it an "Intamin Top Hat". But, let's not get into it too much .

[NegativeGeez]

ive personally never heard the term high hat used in conjunction with rollercoasters...also, id keep raging bull, its a better ride for sfgam. the fact is great america probably couldnt handle the maintenance costs, or the enormous crowds that come with dragster.

[goldmember]

Having ridden them both, I would honestly rather have TTD than RB. I love RB but TTD is just awesome. The launch, speed and drop are great even if the ride is only 16 seconds. Plus, could you imagine driving down the highway and seeing TTD towering over everything?

[coastrcorey]

Yeah, but now that I think about it that way, goldmember, though it would look sweet off the highway, I would miss how Bull looks...

[goldmember]

True, Bull does look good there but I would rather have TTD there. RB is still a great coaster though.

[cexd]

correct me if i'm wrong but uh.. i thought gurnee won't allow anything taller than the sky trek tower, and thats why raging bull goes below ground level, and TTD is like 2 sky trek towers on top of each other.

[T_Biggs]

Bull goes underground just because it does, but yes, they can't build anything higher than STT. I think it's 300 or 330 feet tall, I'm not sure which. Dragster is about 1 and a quarter of them stacked up.

[coasterzak]

I think I'd rather have TTD because I love airtime and speed. I am, however, yet to get on it. I hope I get a ride this year so so bad!

[NegativeGeez]

bull has more and better air than dragster.

[goldmember]

When I was on dragster i was out of my seat from before I went over the hill until it started to curve at the bottom. Thats pretty good airtime. The thing that really sets it above is the speed and drop though.

[Timmy179]

i love the bull, but I would have to go with TTD on this one, only because it would attract alot of people to its line causing other lines to barely excist!!

[GamRCFreak]

Well I just got back from the point where I rode dragster 3 times. Once in the back, middle, and front. I am going to scan my On-Ride Photo later today and I should have a trip report soon.The one thing about dragster is that after the launch you dont really feel the height of the ride. The front does have some really nice air untill you start to face downwards and go through the spiral. The rest of the train doesn't have much air in my opinion.Dragster was still a phenomenal ride. There is nothing quite like the launch in the first row, or any row for that matter. The park did a great job in increasing the capacity to the ride. The ride moves very quickly.Right now I have changed my mind from what I said before. Now I dont think I would prefer either ride over the other. Raging Bull is such an awesome ride itself, and even though it is a few years old now, will be one of my favorites for years to come.I think I favor RB a little more, but give me either ride.

[coastrcorey]

I changed my mind too... I had said before I would prefer TTD, but I've decided that (even though I havn't ridden TTD) I prefer Bull. It's actually become my favorite ride again since my past visit.