Six Flags Parks 2011 thread

[monsterfan99]

^ B&M has said they could build a giga if requested, but what they would charge would be insane.

[Cole]

There is a B&M 4D though, right?

[monsterfan99]

^

[Cole]

I thought they were coming out with one? Or was that just rumors? :confused:

[david]

uhmm... What's a 4D coaster? hahaha

[BP317]

http://www.s-spower.com/coasters/4thdimension/4thdimension.php

[david]

Blonde Moment. Sorry... hahha! I normally call it a 'Multi-Dimensional' Coaster.

[UWW-10]

Your making the Huge 2011 sound very small

There's 2 ways to look at "huge" and whatever the Shapiro 2011 plans were had nothing to do with new $25 million dollar prototypes. Like I said before, you can't just "order" a coaster and have it ready to go within a year...that's where my 3-4 year outlook comment came.....and like I said, 3-4 years ago was about trying to re-balance the books and not just spending to spend....yes you have to look ahead but it is still about predicting your projected income for the future to determine what/how much you are able to spend.

The meaning of "huge" was that all these original proposals (or whatever was supposed to happen) was to bring in something that was "new to the parks" not all "new off the production line". Granted, some parks were probably going to get new THBS clones or something to that extent...and that's considered "huge" in the grand scheme of things because every park was getting something.

I guess at this point....things can change, and I can understand treating each park "individually" but that is far from multi-million dollar coasters for everyone.

[bizarroboy]

You know, I would rather them just re-track American Eagle. It's going to loose that wooden charm with the rattling and such.

Thank you David, American eagle doesn't need to be totally revamped, and a little side note, American Eagle is about 3 times smoother than the Beast at KI.

[Cole]

Blonde Moment. Sorry... hahha! I normally call it a 'Multi-Dimensional' Coaster.

WE HAVE A RCT3 NERD! :p

[david]

Let's face it. Shapiro DID favor certain parks, such as Magic Mountain. Getting new coasters yearly, and such.

This guy is an Intirm CEO, why on earth is he meddling with all of these set plans. :/

(Just because I play Roller Coaster Tycoon, doesn't mean I'm a nerd! hahha)

[Cryptkeeper]

^ B&M has said they could build a giga if requested

Yep, that's right. Though no one else has for SOME UNKNOWN REASON been able to buy one from them since FOREVER, they told me I'm special and hence I could have one in my backyard for free after mail-in-rebate. Definitely true, no doubt about it. I can't wait until construction gets started on my free coaster!

[david]

You forgot to sign a 2 year contract, and you also need a data plan!

[FParker185]

Its been a while since I talked to anyone from B&M but as of probably 5 years ago, 250 feet or so was the max they were willing to look at. Basically they don't want to build anything that can't be made with proven technology, especially a lift chain, and to date there is no manufacturer that can build a lift chain that wouldn't break under it's own weight at that size.

As for the 4-D, there are rumors of it, but the same rumors say the seats would be stationary, more like the Intamin Wing Walker. I personally see nothing special with that design. Gardaland *supposedly* might get the first one next year.

[BLADE]

There is a B&M 4D though, right?

http://www.screamscape.com/html/gardaland.htm

Here's what FParker is talking about.

[Cole]

Cool!

[david]

Wouldn't B&M want to market a new design so that parks can get in orders?

[Cole]

Not if they dont know if it will work yet.

[david]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMILw7E0bHA

Arrow must have one dozens of tests like this one before releasing their first prototype (X). So It won't be the first time B&M tests such a coaster.

They marketed the Behemoth trains at IAPPA 2007, didn't they? And then they appeared on Behemoth at Canada's Wonderland in 2008.

[Cole]

Well, heres my guesses for Shapiros previous plans.

SFMM- Intamin Giga
SFGAdv- Dive Machine
SFGAm- Refurbed Chang
SFOT- New TG
Rest of Parks- Kiddie areas

[david]

I don't see Magic Mountain, and GAdv's being true.

[Cole]

just a joke.

[FParker185]

That couldnt be made to look any more half assed if they tried. Hopefully they'll fix it up

[acquaz10]

Well, heres my guesses for Shapiros previous plans.

SFMM- Intamin Giga
SFGAdv- Dive Machine
SFGAm- Refurbed Chang
SFOT- New TG
Rest of Parks- Kiddie areas

One could only hope thats what his plans were haha. A dive machine would never work at GAdv though.

[Ilovthevu']

Its been a while since I talked to anyone from B&M but as of probably 5 years ago, 250 feet or so was the max they were willing to look at. Basically they don't want to build anything that can't be made with proven technology, especially a lift chain, and to date there is no manufacturer that can build a lift chain that wouldn't break under it's own weight at that size.

Why not trying to have 2 lift chains than (as in one 150 ft, and another on 150 ft after that with a little platform up in the air to hold the base of the second one - stairs)? If they need a small separater between the two they could always have those tires.