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Postby rct2wizard360 on November 24th, 2008, 6:11 pm
Some of you may have heard about this at last years IAAPA.

http://www.thinkercreative.com/finalsit ... reefly.php
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Postby coasterkid94 on November 24th, 2008, 8:09 pm
That was really sweet, but like most S&S ideas, I'm sure it will remain just a prototype.
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Postby demonbulleagle on November 24th, 2008, 9:45 pm
That thing was awesome. But like you said it will probably stay a prototype.
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Postby SFaddiction84 on November 24th, 2008, 9:56 pm
Ya and how many Moving connected parts go into that train? It sounds like the train car itself is just millions of moveable small parts that could easily break. No Im Alright with that
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Postby Coastermonkey61 on November 24th, 2008, 11:20 pm
It looks cool, not sure if it'd be worth riding though.
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Postby Cove26flags on November 24th, 2008, 11:49 pm
Sorry to sound negative but it looks dumb :wink:
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Postby FParker185 on November 25th, 2008, 12:26 am
I agree, it looks to be on the dumb side. Ride may be ok, but with that many complicated moving parts and variables, it's just not worth the payout in the end.

However Skara Sommerland disagrees with that and they are building one for 2009. Artwork is at
http://www.screamscape.com/assets/image ... _art21.jpg
There is alot better artwork and whatnot on the European sites, but that will have to do for now.

POV and some stuff on the trains is on S&S's(RES) offical youtube site.

direct link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1ItUGoggC8
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Postby JordanSDMF on November 25th, 2008, 1:58 am
It's the Whirl-Fly finall born after over 100 years
And the idea was totally stupid
Now they just have the ability to make whatever they want

S&S rides are bad looking. I only like the look of the Screaming Swings. I am anxious for ring°racer though, it looks like a nicely designed ride. I am also eager to see how it goes so fast, and doesn't go like 500 feet in the air. I would imagine that would be a cooler ride. Maybe low, subtle hills for intense airtime.
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Postby zjohn1988 on November 25th, 2008, 9:12 am
Cove26flags wrote:Sorry to sound negative but it looks dumb :wink:



The concept or that layout? It would not have such a basic layout like that...it got the job done as a prototype and who knows that that thing could really do..

SFaddiction84 wrote:Ya and how many Moving connected parts go into that train? It sounds like the train car itself is just millions of moveable small parts that could easily break. No Im Alright with that


Not really...main parts you have are your standard wheel components, sets of springs/shocks, and sets of bearings..maintaining the cars wouldn't be too hard if they could stay well lubricated.


The ride seems to be all about forces.....If those cars stay as they are with rails on the sides, I hope they add padding along the sides or have the seats widen and partially wrap around you. Otherwise I could see it being a bad experience every time.
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Postby guitarhero119 on November 25th, 2008, 7:31 pm
I think that this could be cool if it were in a building in the dark, otherwise i would say it does look a little on the dumb side as of right now. Capacity cant be that great either...
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Postby FParker185 on November 25th, 2008, 9:06 pm
I think the ride will not be about forces at all, as they will likely have simple restraining devices and those free swinging cars need to remain upright under any and all circumstances. The one opening next year seems pretty tame, I think it will be nothing more than a family coaster.
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Postby demonbulleagle on November 25th, 2008, 10:23 pm
I think that it just seems like a cool idea, not very practical but still kind of fun.
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Postby cycamps on November 26th, 2008, 12:16 am
It's definitely a different concept, but it seems rather tame, and I imagine it would have low capacity.
Seeing that test video reminds me of old Arrow prototype videos...
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Postby tp41190 on November 26th, 2008, 12:26 am
I think it "looks" kind of lame but I think riding it will be a completely different experience...the experience of spiraling around while moving forward will be amazing.
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Postby MForce4ever on November 29th, 2008, 6:21 pm
It looks like it would be fun. but either way it's a credit
I'm irreverent and stuff...
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Postby BP317 on November 29th, 2008, 6:26 pm
/\ If you plan on going to Sweden for "a credit"
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Postby RemoveShapiro,NotVu on November 29th, 2008, 7:02 pm
It looks like a 70-year old woman is really enjoying it, so we can't be talking major forces here.
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Postby Jerrykoala2112 on November 30th, 2008, 12:29 am
You never know, this could be out in 10 years more or less.
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Postby bigb7965 on November 30th, 2008, 5:57 pm
^ It's gonna be out next year
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Postby ben_the_bear on December 4th, 2008, 1:36 pm
JordanSDMF wrote:S&S rides are bad looking. I only like the look of the Screaming Swings. I am anxious for ring°racer though, it looks like a nicely designed ride. I am also eager to see how it goes so fast, and doesn't go like 500 feet in the air. I would imagine that would be a cooler ride. Maybe low, subtle hills for intense airtime.


S&S coasters are the best out there in my opinion. They're very different from the average coaster and they give an experience that no other ride can offer (in most cases). J2 at Clementon is the exception, but I think that has to do more with poor maintenance than the design.
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Postby BP317 on December 4th, 2008, 1:41 pm
/\ Dont know if I agree with that. J2's/Tsunami/Hellcats design is so intense and furious for a wooden coaster that after a few years of operating its inevitably going to beat the hell out of you, Avalanche does now also in the back of the train.
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Postby ben_the_bear on December 4th, 2008, 1:49 pm
^ When did you ride J2? In 2007 I rode it and it wasn't that good. The final bunny hills are fun, but the rest of it is just a twister design. Fun, but not an awesome woodie.
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Postby BP317 on December 4th, 2008, 1:53 pm
I havent ridden it, your post gave me the impression you didnt like it because of roughness.
J2 at Clementon is the exception, but I think that has to do more with poor maintenance than the design.
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Postby JordanSDMF on December 4th, 2008, 2:49 pm
ben_the_bear wrote:
JordanSDMF wrote:S&S rides are bad looking. I only like the look of the Screaming Swings. I am anxious for ring°racer though, it looks like a nicely designed ride. I am also eager to see how it goes so fast, and doesn't go like 500 feet in the air. I would imagine that would be a cooler ride. Maybe low, subtle hills for intense airtime.


S&S coasters are the best out there in my opinion. They're very different from the average coaster and they give an experience that no other ride can offer (in most cases). J2 at Clementon is the exception, but I think that has to do more with poor maintenance than the design.


Well, as someone who has ridden very few S&S roller coasters, I can't judge the ride quality, but I still believe their structures of their rides and roller coasters are unappealing. Like, the sky swatter looks like a construction crane or something. Like, look at this picture as an example: http://cache.rcdb.com/pictures/picmax/p16039.jpg

and then look at this one:
http://cache.rcdb.com/pictures/picmax/p5840.jpg

Also, has anyone ridden a screaming squirrel? From my point of view, they look really painful. I have been anxious to know how they are. And I want to hear about Afterburner.
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Postby FParker185 on December 4th, 2008, 7:18 pm
Well, S&S is American designed and manufactured, so them looking like crap is to be expected.

Another good historic example would be Arrow and Vekoma, for lift hills and other tall structures on Arrow they used what looks exactly like scaffolding. Vekoma always used solid pipes more like B&M and other manufacturers (as B&M was not around when Vekoma was in their heyday). Only exception is Ninja at SFStL which is a Vekoma that Arrow moved from a worlds fair (I think in washington), terrain was all different so Arrow redid some structure including the lift hill which converted to scaffolding.
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