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SOB's loop possibly removed

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Postby rich12_16 on December 15th, 2006, 1:39 am
Well.

I would rather be safe than sorry.
If the loop has to go, that alright.
It's better than dismantleing the entire ride.
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Postby SFGAmfreak4life on December 16th, 2006, 12:13 am
^^On Werner Stengel's website it says that SOB was one of his projects. If his firm wasnt invloved then tell me who was.
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Postby rct2wizard360 on December 16th, 2006, 10:31 am
^ FParker agreed that Stengel was involved in the project.

He's not agreeing that it was his fault that the ride sucked.
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Postby FParker185 on December 16th, 2006, 1:01 pm
will clairfy.

Stengel did all the original engineering for the ride which was fine and met any and all specs.

Towards the end of construction it was obvious RCCA wasnt doing things right so the park dismissed RCCA and finished the ride themselves, but was still built to Stengel specs.

Then the ride opened and it was horribly rough, the park deemed the problem to be that the structure was to flexable and/or not stable and caused alot of the lateral roughness and it allowed the track to sag also between ledgers (a product of the abnormally heavy trains.

So after the park park, without any help from stengel or any other engineer started to add extra bracing to the ride to help stiffen it and keep it from moving so much, and that is where the classic saying comes into play, if it does not shake it will break. The lateral movement of the structure dampens the lateral load, when PKI added the bracing the structure did not sway anymore to absorb the laterals, so all of a sudden the lumber between the track and the bracing (vertically we're talking) now had to support many many times the amount of force it was designed to handle, will attempt ASCII here to illistrate, forgive me if it sucks..


Track
| < bent leg taking stress that broke right near track but above the added bracing.
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|\\ < added bracing to prevent lateral sway
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|\\\\ (Ground level)




at least that's what I got out of 25 pages of post incident inspection report.
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Postby SFGAmfreak4life on December 16th, 2006, 4:59 pm
Thanks for the explanation. SOB looks like a great ride so its too bad that it didnt turn out that way. Even though I want to ride SOB with the loop hopefully removing it and using lighter trains will solve the problem.
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Postby rct2wizard360 on June 21st, 2007, 10:48 am
Sorry to resurect an old topic.

Son Of Beast officially has new trains!
No, they aren't PTC's, or Millenium Flyers, they're Gerstlauer Wooden Coaster Trains. Not new ones either, they're from Mrytle Beach.

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http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/vi ... 10&start=0
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Postby FRD714 on June 21st, 2007, 11:21 am
I loved the old trains. I thought they were cool looking.
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Postby BullInDaBack4Life on June 21st, 2007, 10:10 pm
All I know is that now I'll probably never know what it's like to go upside down riding a woodie. I say probably because you never know if somewhere, another wooden coaster is made that they put a loop in. Or possibly, a corkscrew? :shock:

Oh no! Imagine the pain of going through Iron Wolf's corkscrew (as if that's the only painful part of the ride) combined with the roughness of an average wooden roller coaster. The pain! The pain of it all!
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Postby rct2wizard360 on June 22nd, 2007, 12:23 am
Well, the loop on SOB was steel.

Which is why the needed the awful trains it had.
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Postby Cryptkeeper on June 22nd, 2007, 12:31 am
For those who don't know, Mean Streak south..errr, Son of Beast ran for the first time w/ a g-train the other day and didn't make it the entire course. It's not a big deal, as of yet, but is still rather funny imho. I wonder if the new magnetic trims that are *supposed* to be all over the ride now (including the first drop) were on, and if so, just how hard.
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Postby rct2wizard360 on June 22nd, 2007, 12:50 am
How many trims are supposed to be on this thing now?
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Postby FParker185 on June 22nd, 2007, 6:58 pm
I believe I heard SOB was testing with a 3 car train, which would also explain a valley, could be wrong though.
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Postby rct2wizard360 on June 22nd, 2007, 11:51 pm
There are more pictures in the link I posted above of a full train stalled at the top of the helix.

Also, more reports are saying it DID complete the circuit today.
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Postby FParker185 on June 23rd, 2007, 12:13 am
that's unfortunate, would have been nice of the gerstlauers didnt work out :)
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Postby BrianPlencner on July 10th, 2007, 10:49 pm
Not sure if anyone noticed this, but looks like SOB is now open.


http://www.wlwt.com/news/13620874/detai ... d=10100221

According to the article, it opened last Wednesday.

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Postby rct2wizard360 on July 10th, 2007, 11:51 pm
A lot of the reviews are saying it's a really really good coaster now.

Just the normal roughness most wooden coasters give you.
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Postby Dvo on July 23rd, 2007, 10:38 am
SOB is exactly that... a mean SOB. I rode it opening year when it had the loop and it was the most painful ride of my life. It was just unbelievable how rough that ride was. Your legs were destroyed from being bashed into the side of the lap bar. I'm sure there's some improvement with the lighter trains, but I'd be willing to bet that it's still horribly rough. I might try it again, but I don't have high hopes.
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