I just want to say that I was at the park today, and have found out that Deja Vu works absolutely perfectly with only three people. Yes, you heard right (only three people). Now, I don't really time the ride normally, but today it was only taking about 2:50, and one was 2:28 in between rides. This is great news.
Of course, I'm not saying that it should always be this way even though if they can't help, they don't need it. This is especially for the low staffing days. It doesn't need 4 or 5 to operate. Have it open, and only have 3 workers run the ride. Why not?? It's too popular of a ride for people to complain that it's not open.
It was open, and it wasn't the warmest day of the year either.
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Forget Low Staffing
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"I've been staring at the world, waiting. All the trouble and all the pain we're facing. Too much light to be livin' in the dark. Why waste time? We only got one life. Together we can be the CHANGE. So go and let your heart burn bright"
It miscaught on tower 2 today. Saw it valleyed between the loop and the tower.
Just because an attraction or area works perfectly with low staff does by no stretch of the neuron mean that I would encourage it, let alone approve it. What if one person or two needs their breaks, then who's gonna take their place? Some volunteer who doesn't know how to do anything?? Why are lines slow, and why are most places closed down at this time of year? I will break it down into several points:
A: Many of the employees are high school or college students and they needed to get back into class. B: Many other employees are internationals and their visas would expire sooner or later. C: It's Fright Fest and the volunteers who work for fundraisers are NO MATCH for the ever-growing demand of this time of year. D: Many of the supervisors are just too plain liberal. Then again, the company had dealt with issues like this for who knows how many years. They try sending hiring ads and not enough invest. Maybe these long lines will pay off their deep debt. That could be one of the good points days like this would make. R.I.P. Splashwater Falls and Space Shuttle America. Deja Vu, enjoy Idaho.
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^How does Demon survive with only two workers on low staffing days? People take breaks on that ride. There are less workers on V2, Batman, and other rides during low staffing days. So, there is no difference if you are talking about having breaks. They must get there breaks in. A fill-in should be trained to check the harnesses. It's not a big deal.
One person today's main job to deal with the exit passes, and buckle up one harness. It's not a big deal for someone to fill in. It's not a rocket scientist ride to operate for someone to check harnesses.
When was this? Was this during the day, or in the morning? Yes, it did early in the morning. Of course, this was kind of early in the day. This is expected. It's not that big of an idea. "I've been staring at the world, waiting. All the trouble and all the pain we're facing. Too much light to be livin' in the dark. Why waste time? We only got one life. Together we can be the CHANGE. So go and let your heart burn bright"
I agree Vu does do fine with 3, however it has to be 3 VERY good people (typically when its running 3 they try to get the best people there though it seems).
Also with 3 on platform when the ride goes down they dont have anyone to host the front of the line, which presents a major problems on days like yesterday (Saturday) where it was miscatching like crazy.
Was that the first, second, or third time you saw? Maybe fourth, fifth, six, or seventh. Vu was really struggling with the cold, miscaught over and over and over, ultimately closed at like 5. We went up and asked why the ride was running but no one else was allowed in line and they said because the ride was struggling with the weather and as a courtsey they let the people waiting in line ride (basically risking it). There were a lot of people at the entrance complaining and the ride ops kept saying the weather makes the ride go slower than designed, which makes it get stuck. This one guy got so pissed and yelled at the employees that the ride was working and it shouldnt be closed and right when he did BOOM it miscatches. They also said the reason Raging Bull was down is cause it was having issues with the cold weather...though it went up an hour later or so. One of the ride ops at Vu said it was struggling in the morning because they needed to get it warm (the first cycle with people on it miscaught) and when they did get it warmed up it ran fine for a few hours or so but then it got really cold and it started having problems again.
The operator leaves controls and checks the restraints then goes back into controls to send the train. Today it looked like, from what I noticed, staffing has really become an issue, from what I saw Superman and Vu, both normally run by 5 ops, were both being run by 3 Saturday. Vu seemed okay cause they were flying (though it kept breaking down like normal) but Superman with 3 people was terrible, especially since they had a huge line at their exit because of disabilitys and probably people that got stuck on DejaVu  . There were also a lot of supervisors running rides.
Even with the queues open DejaVu's line was still back to the Southwest Teritorry entrance.
Ive seen Demon with two ride ops. It works out fine as long as there not slow.
Frank
I saw it valleyed around 12:45.
^ I saw it valley as well. I also saw it get stuck on the loop..i have no idea how that happened..but the people in the front row were upside down for a bit...or at least it looked like it from atop of Eagle
"Oh My Gosh, She is such a whore!" - heard behind me exiting Raging Bull.
If DeJaVu is such a "marquee" attraction then this ride should be run at the expense of others that should be closed if there is a shortage of employee's.
Considering how long it takes between launches the extra employee's dont add much in regards to ride capacity anyway, escpecially when the ride is broken down more often than it is actually running properly.
vu had several miscatches during the day.....i was on the first ride of the day, and that was a miscatch
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I was walking back from break when it happened, I was passing by it and watched it run and I saw it miscatch on the 2nd tower. It was pretty cool......until they have to get it going again. It's green. It's blue. It's all over you! Enjoy your ride on Déjà Vu
I have lost a ton of respect for you in that one sentence. Proper operation is a constant procees of eye motion. While checking restraints you are viewing the riders in the seat, watching the train in the ride course, listening to guest yell at you, interacting with guest, all within a tie frame of at least 30 seconds. (Side note. The Vu crew at its prime last year was sending trains as fast as 1 minute and 45 seconds.) While sending the train you are ensuring no one being on the platform, watching the guest on the train as they leave, observing trains in the ride course, and ensuring no one enters through the exit and tries to go after a train. While the other train is coming into the station you are presecanning riders for gum, height checks, and lose articles, and observing riders as they get off the train and enter the train. All while dealing with Exit passes. Even your operators who do not appear to be doing this process still are. It is a science in itself, give the people who operate the rides a hell lot of more of respect than that.
If you think that not having enough staff to keep you precious Vu open is such a major concern, why don't you apply and get a job at SFGAm?! Then they would have another cast member to operate rides. Other than that, get over it. Whether you like it or not, if there is limited staffing, some rides will be forced to closed.
DejaVu has not valleyed since 2003, a valley is when it stalls in a spot thats not a control point. If it were to valley, it would stop in the boomerang or over the brown loop-platform. What you saw was a miscatch, for some reason the catch car did not catch the train and since it didnt pass by the prox switch on the tower, the brakes didnt open so it went smashing into brake 2 and stopped. The way they get them off is unlock the fin brakes then let them swing back and forth a bit, then winch it into place at the bottom of the second tower, then take the winch hook off and hook the catch car back on and bring them up to finish the ride.
Now, one problem with your theory. I will not hold it against you since you know MOST of how the ride works. The catchcars are triggered by timers not by prox switches, If the catchcars were triggered by prox switches the ride wouldnt have mis catching problems like it does.
And the prize for Engineering Blunder since 2001 goes to....
Vekoma Engineers who felt that Timers would be more reliable than Prox switches! Licensed Mechanical Engineer
I would have been happy with one extra security person at the entry turnstiles last Saturday. I've never seen so many groups of people forcing their way into the lines out there. Of course, having all the entry turnstiles open would be even better.
Not a good way to start a visit when you have to wait that long to get in and the wait becomes even longer by groups jumping the lines. "Heavily medicated for your safety"
Why don't they just chaange it to proxies then if that's the problem?? "I've been staring at the world, waiting. All the trouble and all the pain we're facing. Too much light to be livin' in the dark. Why waste time? We only got one life. Together we can be the CHANGE. So go and let your heart burn bright"
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