Minor Updates, Rumors, and Happenings

[Coaster Justin]

I would love to see a Ferris wheel replace hangover. It would finally fill the sky whirl void

Please an Intamin Coaster Wheel. Probably too big

Or maybe a Vekoma Wheel?

[Muck Finnesota]

What are thoughts on any November operating dates this year? Have they usually been announced/shown on the schedule at this point in the season in the past?

[coasterfanatic]

What are thoughts on any November operating dates this year? Have they usually been announced/shown on the schedule at this point in the season in the past?

Last day of park operations is 10/31. Any November days would have likely been announced already.


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[Agent]

What are thoughts on any November operating dates this year? Have they usually been announced/shown on the schedule at this point in the season in the past?

Supposedly, the park president said he was considering doing Holiday in the Park this year. It's possible they might announce that instead of another Veteran's Day weekend opening (last years Veteran's Day weekend was a little emptier than an average Summer day so perhaps management doesn't see a benefit in opening).

If I'm not mistaken, Fright Fest was originally supposed to run only til October 29th but got extended to the 31st a few weeks ago. The park is very spontaneous with what events it has and axes so I wouldn't be surprised if HitP gets announced all late.

[coasterfanatic]

What are thoughts on any November operating dates this year? Have they usually been announced/shown on the schedule at this point in the season in the past?

Supposedly, the park president said he was considering doing Holiday in the Park this year. It's possible they might announce that instead of another Veteran's Day weekend opening (last years Veteran's Day weekend was a little emptier than an average Summer day so perhaps management doesn't see a benefit in opening).

If I'm not mistaken, Fright Fest was originally supposed to run only til October 29th but got extended to the 31st a few weeks ago. The park is very spontaneous with what events it has and axes so I wouldn't be surprised if HitP gets announced all late.

Holiday in the Park is not returning. The park would have had to do significant decorating already if that was the case. Plus it was cut because it wasn’t profitable and was a logistical nightmare.

Instead, there’s a third party company renting out the Six Flags parking lot and doing a drive thru holiday display in the parking lot. carousel Plaza is expected to be open on the days of the drive thru. This is not run by Six Flags and passes and memberships are not valid.


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[Tardis1972]

Demon has finally reopened.

[Agent]

Holiday in the Park is not returning. The park would have had to do significant decorating already if that was the case. Plus it was cut because it wasn’t profitable and was a logistical nightmare.

Instead, there’s a third party company renting out the Six Flags parking lot and doing a drive thru holiday display in the parking lot.

That's what I meant, Holiday in the Park Lite

Anyhow, it's now on the Great America website, running from November 17th to December 31st.

[CoasterRiderSC]

Yesterday (10/21) had to be the busiest day of the year at the park! I was there 11 AM to 740 PM. When I went on Bull it was only running 2 trains! There was a slight rain resulting in 30 minute delay. I asked one of the operators why aren't they running train 3 ?? He said "It can't run 3 trains in the rain." I absolutely don't believe that for a second! If rain was a limiting factor then how can any of its trains run in rain?? Also there was a row grouper at the entrance of Bull's station. That only made it so much slower operations!!

I also asked why Giant Drop was down all day. He said "because of the wind". There was literally NO wind most of the day!

Bull, Batman, Superman and possibly other rides were down BEFORE the rain delay....

It's almost as if Six Flags was doing all it could to make lines longer to coax people into buying flash passes! One guest told me that there were no more flash passes "available" and the office was closed so maybe they achieved their purpose??

Also, the super loop was actually running. I went on to get my last ever ride. 45 minutes wait which should have been like 25 or 30. They were literally loading ONE section at a time!! I asked why and the operator said "that's how we were told/taught to do it". What????

This is probably the LAST time I go there while Fright Fest is setup. At least I will never go back on a Saturday. THe morning and early afternoon was not bad but it got crazy around 4 PM.

I just go there for the rides so I would love if they had a weekend or two in November

[Tardis1972]

Was Demon running? Took them long enough to get Bulls third train running. If only they could do the same with Maxx Force.

[coasterfanatic]

Yesterday (10/21) had to be the busiest day of the year at the park! I was there 11 AM to 740 PM. When I went on Bull it was only running 2 trains! There was a slight rain resulting in 30 minute delay. I asked one of the operators why aren't they running train 3 ?? He said "It can't run 3 trains in the rain." I absolutely don't believe that for a second! If rain was a limiting factor then how can any of its trains run in rain?? Also there was a row grouper at the entrance of Bull's station. That only made it so much slower operations!!

I also asked why Giant Drop was down all day. He said "because of the wind". There was literally NO wind most of the day!

Bull, Batman, Superman and possibly other rides were down BEFORE the rain delay....

It's almost as if Six Flags was doing all it could to make lines longer to coax people into buying flash passes! One guest told me that there were no more flash passes "available" and the office was closed so maybe they achieved their purpose??

Also, the super loop was actually running. I went on to get my last ever ride. 45 minutes wait which should have been like 25 or 30. They were literally loading ONE section at a time!! I asked why and the operator said "that's how we were told/taught to do it". What????

This is probably the LAST time I go there while Fright Fest is setup. At least I will never go back on a Saturday. THe morning and early afternoon was not bad but it got crazy around 4 PM.

I just go there for the rides so I would love if they had a weekend or two in November

That is correct. Bull doesn’t run 3 trains in the rain.


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[Agent]

Demon has finally reopened.

Indeed it did, but the rock formation in the second loop has been completely removed. RIP. At least now both the California and Illinois Demons are a bit more similar.

[CoasterRiderSC]

CoasterFanatic - Why can't Bull run 3 trains in the rain? Also I have yet to see Bull run 3 trains ANY time this year and I've been there 10x .

[CoasterRiderSC]

Was Demon running? Took them long enough to get Bulls third train running. If only they could do the same with Maxx Force.

What are they saving Maxx 2nd train for?? I haven't seen it used all year!

[coasterfanatic]

CoasterFanatic - Why can't Bull run 3 trains in the rain? Also I have yet to see Bull run 3 trains ANY time this year and I've been there 10x .

That I’m not sure. You’d have to ask a ride op but I’ve heard that from several ride ops as well.

As for MaxxForce, they had issues with the second train at one point and sent it back to the manufacturer…there will also having some issues with the ride when it was running two trains. Not sure exactly what those were exactly.

And that’s probably true. Bulls third train is only really necessary on a day like yesterday. It does not meaningfully increase throughput unless they are hitting the exact interval each and every time.


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[Tardis1972]

^ Someone mentioned (they said they were a ride opt) in the Airtime Thrills SFGAm visit video that the SOP was updated which is another reason for the one train.

[CoasterRiderSC]

^ Someone mentioned (they said they were a ride opt) in the Airtime Thrills SFGAm visit video that the SOP was updated which is another reason for the one train.

Can you elaborate on what "SOP was updated" means?

[Tardis1972]

Standard Operating Procedures.
Again this was from someone in a YouTube comment section claiming to be a SFGAm ride opt. I have no way of knowing if that’s true or not.

[JaminOut]

^ Someone mentioned (they said they were a ride opt) in the Airtime Thrills SFGAm visit video that the SOP was updated which is another reason for the one train.

As for why the SOP was updated, I recall a while back hearing something about marginal capacity increase between one and two trains on MaxxForce.

The time it takes for the launch to reset is similar to the minimum load time for operations. Adding a second train therefore cannot meaningfully decrease dispatch intervals, restricting capacity improvement.

[Tardis1972]

Not to mention with two trains they couldn’t launch one until the other was unlocked.

[coasterfanatic]

Yes. That pretty much sums up the MaxxForce second train.

Demons third train was the same way. It did not meaningfully increase capacity so now they just rotate the trains.

Also, the no third train during the rain I believe is not unique to Bull or are park. At least amongst B&Ms, I believe that is standard is you can’t run 3 trains in rain.


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[coasterfanatic]

Bye Bye StupidLoop


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[Tardis1972]

^ Revolution also.

[Goku1910]

Yes. That pretty much sums up the MaxxForce second train.

Demons third train was the same way. It did not meaningfully increase capacity so now they just rotate the trains.

Also, the no third train during the rain I believe is not unique to Bull or are park. At least amongst B&Ms, I believe that is standard is you can’t run 3 trains in rain.


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Worked at the park 2009-2012. When lockers were a thing, Demon three train ops actually did improve to the point it was capable of hitting the million rider mark before the end of the year.

When bins came back, everyone put on their stupid caps and capacity plummeted as a result.

[coasterfanatic]

Yes. That pretty much sums up the MaxxForce second train.

Demons third train was the same way. It did not meaningfully increase capacity so now they just rotate the trains.

Also, the no third train during the rain I believe is not unique to Bull or are park. At least amongst B&Ms, I believe that is standard is you can’t run 3 trains in rain.


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Worked at the park 2009-2012. When lockers were a thing, Demon three train ops actually did improve to the point it was capable of hitting the million rider mark before the end of the year.

When bins came back, everyone put on their stupid caps and capacity plummeted as a result.

Makes sense. Since you worked there and there’s been a discussion about it, do you why Bull doesn’t run 3 trains in the rain?


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[CoasterRiderSC]

^ Revolution also.

Pretty much!! Good riddance to both!!