I think they are planning to get rid of Iron Wolf

[planea380]

I beg to differ on shockwave's history:

Tallest
Fastest
Most Inversions

when it opened, It was a model for all Arrow Mega Loopers to Follow.

[highroller13]

that really prooves my point

[djvv2]

I hope They do get rid of it and build something better. Especially a more higher ride. Not too Compact

[Danhockey04]

Iron Wolf is going no-where, they will never get rid of it, it is a classic. The first B and M coaster, why would they take that out.

[djvv2]

Heeeellloooo. To make that area more popular of course they got revolution but everyone said so that it is not popular. attract more people. If six flags asked everyone to either keep iron wolf or get a new stand up coaster that is just as tall a Riddler's revenge you would say no Keep the First B & M Coaster. Face it. It's not really all that. It could be better.

[planea380]

that really prooves my point

How does that prove your point?

[djvv2]

the coaster is as old as Shockwave when it was on it's last year at SFGA

[DejaVuGurl1203]

So what? It's still fairly popular unlike Shockwave was.

[NoUseForAName]

IW is the only coaster I wouldn't mind trims on. Right where MCBR should be, before the corkscrew. Also, anyone notice RB's MCBR doesn't grab at all but the trim before the figure 8 does now?

[DejaVuGurl1203]

Yeah, IW could use some trims, but I like it the way it is. That airtime right before the corkscrew is awesome. And I haven't noticed any difference on RB.

[highroller13]

that really prooves my point

How does that prove your point?

Because Shockwave had a history which you prooved but they still took it out.

[coasterkid86]

I think IW should go, yes its the first B&M, and it has somewhat of a line, but if you walked around the park asking people if they like IW, if they would ride it over say, superman, raging bull, batman. they would probably say the other rides. SFGAM should get rid of IW and get a new stand-up, or maybe even a floorless.

[Ilovthevu']

It was kind of cool to find last year's topic of IW about it being a hunk of junk or something else. Many people said they loved the ride which was a surprise to me.
http://www.sfgamworld.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=183

I love the ride too, but history does not mean much when you have a park wanting a new rollercoaster. I can tell that Shockwave in it's final season had no line except in the station because I went on it. I don't like it, but it's true. Another thing is that if people went on
Shockwave once the final season, they would find a much less rougher ride.

Honestly, my first time was a mess. I had a headache after that ride. The final year it was there, one boring ride. Besides unpopularity and the fact that they kept Whizzer, a big reason why Shockwave is gone is because it was in front of the park. My explanation for why they wanted Whizzer gone is because you could have extended SUF over the Viper line along with RB too.

Back to IW, I find it hard to believe that it would be gone in only two more years. We have a big Spaceship in the front of the park which keeps on dying every year. We have room for flats with the in-between years. We also have Wilderness theather not being used. IMS is practically the same thing as LR and is not open as much. Could be a potential victim? Demon is less packed than IW most of the time. A big thing that management looks at is attendence. I would think IW has a greater amount quite a number of rides. I think that's all I have to say.

[tyster22]

If they got rid of Iron Wolf and put in some crazy ride that is a copy of X or Batman & Robin the Chiller I'd be mad. I would stay at great america all day and protest.

[highroller13]

OKAY... You didnt finish your thought. If they did all that what.

[SfGaMownz]

I beg to differ on shockwave's history:

Tallest
Fastest
Most Inversions

when it opened, It was a model for all Arrow Mega Loopers to Follow.

All what 2 of them? Exactly they were never to popular and Shockwave had some serious problems the final one being the reason it was taken down in favor of S:UF in the first place.

Also, tallest and fastest roller coasters change almost evey year nowadays so I do not consider them to be big achivements in history. I mean Magnum out did Shockwave the next season. MF was the tallest for a 3 years which is quite a few.

A final note there isn't much that could go in its space as it is. The line always has a decent line to. Have you ever seen that thing during Fright Fest its like is back almost to the Funnal Cake Foundry sometimes. On summer days it is almost always using switchbacks and on weekends has a full queue.

The ride is staying just becuase a ride has not been painted or had new padding and things like that put on it doens't mean that it will be removed from the park. You don't even know what kind of changes could have been made to the ride everything that is done to a ride isn't a noticeable thing. Things are done to impove Deja Vu but you don't see them. My guess is Viper is next to go becuase I haven't seen anything done to the ride in recent years .

[highroller13]

but viper is not all rusted out. that was my point, it looks so bad, and it seems to be the only ride that hasn't been updated in recent years.

[SfGaMownz]

Viper can't get rusted out its wood. Look at rides across the country that are rusted out. Flashback is the worst ride of them all and I want you to try and tell me that SFMM is going to take it out. Just because a ride has chipped paint and old padding doesn't mean its doomed.

Rides apperances are not everything. I don't even think that Iron Wolf even looks that bad. SF spent enough money this year on all the new attractions and painting B:TR and Demon which needed fresh coats more then Iron Wolf does now in my opinion. They can only do so much at one time. Paint isn't even the thing that they worry about the most. They worry about it being open with little down time and Iron Wolf fits in that category.

[Timmy179]

highRoller, Im assuming your just making stuff up to prove your point, but where did you conjure up that IW has maintenance issues?? They replaced the restraints awhile back, and thats about it. And it can't run in the rain due to drive tires.

so, Im interested in your response.

[TwistedSTEEL666]

I've heard of the IW rumor, that it might be going, might not, who knows...but if GAm were really gonna get rid of a B&M, mind you B&M's first, would they really let it go without any thoughts from the enthuisits(sp?) who LIKE riding Iron Wolf.

an example: In 2002 they said they were going to grt rid of Whizzer, they didn't why? Public Outcry saved the Whizzer, and GAm turned their attention to Shockwave .
Can public outcry save Iron Wolf if GAm said they were gonna tear it down? We really don't know for sure, we can only hope that IW will stay. Only Time will tell.

[coasterzak]

We won't even get talking about that public outcry. When they say public outcry, I think they mean 'accident and low ridership on Shockwave' saved Whizzer.

[ShortChilli]

What was the accident that was the final decision to get rid of Shockwave??

[DejaVuGurl1203]

On August 3rd, 2002, the blue train had the wheel assembly on the front car break exiting the third loop. Sparks were flying and the ride ops stopped it on the midcourse. They evacuated the ride and there were no major injuries. There is no solid proof of this but there were numerous eye witness accounts. The next day, someone took a pic of the trains on the transfer and the blue train was missing the first two cars. That is the real reason Shock Wave left. The Whizzer protest at the time was just a convinient cover up.

That was the Shockwave accident. For all I know this could be a rumor, and like the person said, there's no solid proof of it.

[TwistedSTEEL666]

On August 3rd, 2002, the blue train had the wheel assembly on the front car break exiting the third loop. Sparks were flying and the ride ops stopped it on the midcourse. They evacuated the ride and there were no major injuries. There is no solid proof of this but there were numerous eye witness accounts. The next day, someone took a pic of the trains on the transfer and the blue train was missing the first two cars. That is the real reason Shock Wave left. The Whizzer protest at the time was just a convinient cover up.

That was the Shockwave accident.

anyone see this happen on August 3rd 2002?

[Cove26flags]

IF history dosent mean any thing to the park then why did they keep wizzer up instead of Shockwave ??