Batman Station Music

[mschulz5]

Soxman, I'm curious, how can, in your pessimistic opinion of couse, can the park improve? It seems like the park can do absolutely nothing to suit your needs. I'm sorry that Jim Wintrode and now Tim Black don't come to your doorstep and ask you what you want for the next year, I really am, but GOOD GOD, take some zoloft for crying out loud. I'm just really tired of hearing you COMPLAIN about how the park did this wrong and should've done this better when I see more families having fun now than ever before. Family is the key to earning money in the amusement park industry, not Soxman.

[Soxman]

Do you people read. I am not all negative. Whats done is done at the park and I can not physically change the park, but I can voice my displeasure. Eagle,Demon,Viper,RB,IW,Whizzer, and Batman are all great coasters. The park has improved its flats and painted the things that needed to be painted (except Batman). I go to the park on average 15 times a year a enjoy myself, but I will not sit back and love Six Flags when I know they are capable of doing better.

If everyone is so happy with the park why was attendence down at the start of the year? I do not want weather as an excuse becasue I was there on sunny days without a crowd

[Coasterman Jro]

I have been going to Great America for a long time. A lot longer than most of the grade school kiddies.

I Don't know how long you have been going to the park, nor do I care. I 'm twenty years old and have been going to the park relgiously for the last 10-15 years.

Now now Timmy, lying is no way to improve your credibility. You know as well as I that you're a year or two younger than me, which would put you in the 16-17 range. I hate to call you out on it, as I have no ill will towards you and never have, but I dislike lying to prove a point.

[chimike]

I did enjoy Batman, even more, when the RideOps wore fake tuxedos like Alfred and the sound effects in the queue were more distinct. Kids playing between the exit ramp and queue, traffic overhead while standing near the storm drain.

The park is really sparkling this year, but the white Gotham City backdrop with B&M's name in the corner is suffering from some nasty wood-rot.

I don't think that is a problem caused by Tim's regime, but just another thing they need to tackle in a long list of further refurbishments.

[Ilovthevu']

I understand where you are coming from Soxman, but the fact is that BTR is changed. I loved the theming before, and I believe they messed it up too. It wasn't just the paint. What can you do about it though?

As for V2, SUF, and D Vu, I think you are more mad at the rides (Shockwave, Sky Whirl, and Hay Bailer) or things (Lighthouse, maybe green tunnel) they replaced than the actual rides themselves.

[w00dland]

If you don't care how long I have been going to the park why would you respond with your age?

You have seen the addition of Superman - BIG DEAL. It was a clone and the ride is a lost cause after the first inversion. I liked Shockwave and I am NOT one of those people who cry for it back, but the park could have done more with the space they had.

You have seen the addition of V2 - Big Deal. in my opinion if you are not in the front seat it is a waste. Also a not very reliable ride. They ruined Yankee Harbor by putting it in. They just threw a ride down a ruined a beautiful part of the park.

You have seen the addition of Vu - BIG DEAL. The ride is low capacity and took forever to get it up and running. The ride is fun and exciting when it works, but a family coming from Indiana who comes for one day to ride Vu has very little chance of getting on because if its problems. Face it - it was a bad idea putting Vu in so quickly. I love having the ride, but it has been a nightmare the last three seasons.

How are you going to sit there and say his credibility isn't as good as yours because he has seen the addition of "bad" coasters in your opinion? I don't like Demon or Iron Wolf very much, does that mean your credibility sucks?

[chimike]

Somebody, I think Timmy, brought up the fact that they play Seal now in the queue for Batman. I encoutered this for the first time this year and I was shocked. They might as well play Barry Manilow. That song is the worst setup music for guests who are about to board a high-speed coaster. I like the additions of U2 and the other stuff, but Seal left me scratching my head.

Like Millenium Force, or even more, Hulk at IOA, queue music should get the blood pumping not cloting. The Hulk Techno in combination with the animations really help set the tone.

[InsaneNewman]

You know, about a year ago I remember getting into an argument with Soxman... while I may not always agree with him, I do right now with his statement that some dislike does foster good discussion. I, for one, also liked Batman the way it was, with the better themeing... others don't care about themeing, just the ride... and that's their opinion.

But Timmy, this is a disscusion board, with an emphasis on disscusion. Disscussion is defined as "a two-way exchange of ideas through conversation." Now you may not agree with Soxman, you may love every little thing that the park has done in the last 12 years (since Batman), and that's great! But you also have to understand that there are those who dislike certain aspects of the park. And in a two-way conversation, you both have the right to express yourselves without one calling the other's posts "crap."

Now, I am not a mod, nor do I want to start a fight. I just want to make sure that if I want to discuss something in the future, and Timmy happens to disagree with me, I won't have to get into a shouting match with him (or any other member, for that matter).

Just some food for thought...

[Soxman]

wOOdland - I really can't attack his credability - I have never met the guy, nor do I know anything about him. I do take offense when soone jumps my post and calls it crap. He didn't even come at me about this thread. I gave my opinion on the Batman Station and started whinning about me.

He tried to give his opinion about past park management adding those coasters. I responded with my opinion and countered his points about the coasters.

None of us are God of Great America (Even though some act like it). These boards are mostly opinions unless sources come into play. I am allowed to post my opinions and will continue to do so. If other members do not agree with me it will spark good conversation. I will not stand for someone lying and calling my posts crap.

wOOdland- I have read your past postsand you seem very intelligent in the theme park field. I respect your opinions and look forward to future conversations

iluvthevu - Nothing against you, but if that is how I felt I would express it. I was not a big Sky Whirl fan. I love Vu (when it works) and think it is a good addition to the park. Last year I felt different on the topic. Vu is running 100% better than it did a year ago. It still has problems at times, but it is better than in the past. I have stated my opinions on Shockwave - I loved the ride, but I will NOT cry for it back. In the general publics eyes as of now the park is better with Superman. Down the road the I believe the ride will always have a low wait. I did love some of the old flats, but I can see the park has made a great effort to replace them.

[coasterzak]

Can you guys stop fighting or at least do this in the proper place? I want that station music! I was so excited when I saw there were so many posts - then I read it and had to get through everyone's bickering to see there is nothing worthwhile. Give it a rest kids.

[w00dland]

Somebody, I think Timmy, brought up the fact that they play Seal now in the queue for Batman. I encoutered this for the first time this year and I was shocked. They might as well play Barry Manilow. That song is the worst setup music for guests who are about to board a high-speed coaster. I like the additions of U2 and the other stuff, but Seal left me scratching my head.

Like Millenium Force, or even more, Hulk at IOA, queue music should get the blood pumping not cloting. The Hulk Techno in combination with the animations really help set the tone.

See, I completly disagree here but I won't argue because I see where your coming from. The way I think of it is some people like it when they hear music they actually know of in the queue line, it gives them something to relate too. When I heard Seal for the first time I went crazy and got two rows singing along with me on the brakes.

It is a slow song though, and is completly different than the ride itself.

[DejaVu The Ride]

I did enjoy Batman, even more, when the RideOps wore fake tuxedos like Alfred traffic overhead while standing near the storm drain.

If they wore the fake tuxedos now, they would probably pass out. And I still hear traffic(Horns blowing) will standing in the queue.

Somebody, I think Timmy, brought up the fact that they play Seal now in the queue for Batman. I encoutered this for the first time this year and I was shocked. They might as well play Barry Manilow. That song is the worst setup music for guests who are about to board a high-speed coaster. I like the additions of U2 and the other stuff, but Seal left me scratching my head.

Well, Seal's 'Kiss From a Rose' is from the Batman soundtrack, so it sort of makes sense. And well, Barry Manilow is not.(Even though that would be odd.)

[Ilovthevu']

Can you guys stop fighting or at least do this in the proper place? I want that station music! I was so excited when I saw there were so many posts - then I read it and had to get through everyone's bickering to see there is nothing worthwhile. Give it a rest kids.

^:):):):)

For the music, if you didn't know, Seal is on the Batman Forever soundtrack. I think it's a good song, along with the other songs they play. Also, they played that song before. I was just listening to that soundtrack, and I was thinking no wonder why you guys (SFGAm) play the music you do. Besides the couple songs they have from that soundtrack, there was only one other song I liked. So, this is for you SF. Now, please don't change the music.

[Soxman]

I think chimike was comaparing Seal to Barry Manilow because they are bothe artists who do slow music. I agree that music helps make the ride. When standing in line I do want to be pumped up and get excitied. I know Seal is from the soundtrack, but it is just to slow.

I don't really see the point of them passing out wearing the old uniforms. Has the climate of Gurnee changed that much in ten years? When the ops wore costumes they seemed to get into their job more. Tower of Terror at Disney is a great example. The cast memebers really act like they are employees of the hotel. It really helps me enjoy the ride more with the atmosphere they have presented.

[DejaVu The Ride]

The station has no air circulation. They have fans and all, but they do nothing but circulate the warm air. Also, it has been mentioned before that most ops work on different rides, so they can't be wearing butler suits at let's say, V2. Times have changed.

[Soxman]

Times haven't changed in this regard. Back in the early 90's crews still moved from coaster to coaster. The costumes they wore were like jumpsuits. Some looked like Gotham City employees and others a tux. Ops could easily take them on and off. I would not make such strong statements when you do not know all of the facts. You have stated yourself that you were not around the park back then and yet you think you know how it worked. You have no idea why they are gone and I have no idea why they are gone. It is all speculation.

[DejaVu The Ride]

You have to stop using the phrase "strong statements". You use them yourself and you're the one acting like a "know it all."

[Soxman]

Listen I am through bickering with you. If you would read my posts you would understand that I am not trying to be a "know it all". If that is what you get out of my posts that is your problem. I stated my opinion and why I disagreed with you. You responded with you opinion, but guessed at fact insted of asking "Wouldn't it be hard to change crews with costumes?" You acted as if you already knew when you never experienced it.

When I say a "strong statment" I back it up with facts or examples. You did not. Your last post ^ did not add anything to the conversation and sadly neither does this one because I will not put up with personal attacks. Once again I DO NOT know everything. Nobody knows everything. I am not asking anyone to agree with me. I just state my opion with examples or facts.

[DejaVu The Ride]

"I will not put up with personal attacks."

Neither will I.


You have to excuse me, I'm going to St.Louis to get away from you.

[Da Chillin16JG]

I was wondering does Mr. Freeze have simular music to BTR?

[DejaVu The Ride]

No. It's station is pretty neat though. The lights dim when a train is launched.

[Soxman]

I will be here when you get back

For anyone else pissed off at me - I do not start fights. I state my opinions and others jump on me. I will defend my opinions and not try to back track. I will also admit when I am wrong. I am starting to think that will be the case with my 2006 waterpark opening statement. I have changed that to mid July 2005. We will see.

[planea380]

Past Management=BAD
From 1998 - 2001 you have seen coasters added but the overall park has suffered. Why was the old management team really replaced. They were not getting the job done and now we are heading in a better

direction.

Just * go to hell because you have no clue what you are talking about....I don't care if I get banned for this post. Past mangment revolutionized the industry...and how dare you talk about Wintrode like that. Trust me there is not one serious thing you can say bad bout Wintrode.....He was the coolest. Tim Black's style and Jim Wintrode's management stlye is very similar. And don't even say about addition from 2000 on. Premier Parks take over killed the chain...thats when major affects of the take over occured. Premier Parks is the stupidest company around, they took control out of the GM's hands were each park used to operate as a seperate buisseness. Now they operate like one giant company which doesn't work. That post really pissed me off. Off to finish my homework

"I aint done, and Don't bann me for my mis spelling etc...I'll fix it later I promises"DJ

P.S. John Williams did write the Batman theme.

[DejaVu The Ride]

I will be here when you get back

I wouldn't be too sure about that. jk

[Soxman]

Planea380 - What are you talking about - I HATE Premiere. When WB owned the park outright it was a great place to go. When Premiere got involed and then took control the park started to go downhill.

You are worng - Please look it up. I am looking at the case to the soundtracy. Batman Theme composed by Elfman.

You dropping the F Bomb is real mature. If you are going to be brave enough to post it then why edit it out?