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Poll Question: Is Goliath a Steel? Wood? or Hybrid Coaster?

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What do you consider the New Goliath Coaster?

Wood
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66%
Steel
3
4%
Hybrid
23
30%
 
Total votes : 76

Postby Superman on September 17th, 2013, 4:37 pm
It is wooden, because the structure is made out of wood. I'm not even sure why this is a discussion.
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Postby JimPanky on September 17th, 2013, 5:09 pm
There have been plenty of wooden coaster built since 1959.
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Postby DeathbyDinn on September 17th, 2013, 5:35 pm
Superman wrote:It is wooden, because the structure is made out of wood. I'm not even sure why this is a discussion.


The structure doesn't matter, it all has to do with the track. Having a wood structure doesn't make Gemini a wood coaster.
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Postby BBH on September 17th, 2013, 5:44 pm
DeathbyDinn wrote:
Superman wrote:It is wooden, because the structure is made out of wood. I'm not even sure why this is a discussion.


The structure doesn't matter, it all has to do with the track. Having a wood structure doesn't make Gemini a wood coaster.

I'm not sure if it was here or somewhere else, but somebody called Iron Horses the "next generation of wooden coasters." My response? "So, that makes the Gravity Group woodie hybrids with a steel structure the next generation of steel coasters, right?"
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Postby Sporlo on September 17th, 2013, 6:16 pm
RBrulle wrote:I went with hybrid for the mere fact that it has a wooden structure but will most likely feature steel track. And speaking honestly wouldnt tubular steel roller coasters have been the next step in wooden coaster evolution? Just consider up until Disney, before them all coasters were wooden. Then steel came onto the scene and almost every coaster has been made out of it since.

It will be the same design as Outlaw Run. Topper Track throughout.
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Postby Superman on September 17th, 2013, 6:43 pm
Me, as well as most of the GP, would call it wooden, because of how it looks. I think it should be classified by the majority of people, and I'm sure the majority of people would look at it and say it is a wooden coaster.
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Postby JimPanky on September 17th, 2013, 7:25 pm
What would the majority of GP consider Texas Giant, Iron Rattler, and Medusa?
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Postby JimPanky on September 17th, 2013, 7:27 pm
All 3 of those have wooden supports but are classified as steel.
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Postby SFGAm Viper on September 17th, 2013, 8:09 pm
JimPanky wrote:All 3 of those have wooden supports but are classified as steel.


The entire track is steel.
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Postby JimPanky on September 17th, 2013, 8:12 pm
Exactly but by Superman's logic would we classify them as wood?
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Postby SFGAm Viper on September 17th, 2013, 8:13 pm
JimPanky wrote:Exactly but by Superman's logic would we classify them as wood?


And that's why his logic is wrong.
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Postby JimPanky on September 17th, 2013, 8:14 pm
Exactly
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Postby SFGAm Viper on September 17th, 2013, 9:02 pm
JimPanky wrote:Exactly


Glad were on the same page! Lol
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Postby Superman on September 18th, 2013, 6:39 am
How is my logic wrong? Let's say you've never seen or heard of the RMC coasters. You go to Great America, and you see Goliath. What type of coaster do you think it is? Also, I'm sure the GP at both Texas parks and Mexico, would say those coasters are wooden.
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Postby JimPanky on September 18th, 2013, 9:39 am
Why base coaster classifications on the gp? Plenty of the gp is going to be walking by Goliath saying, "What's that; where did that one coaster go where your standing in it."
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Postby SFGAm Viper on September 18th, 2013, 11:06 am
JimPanky wrote:Why base coaster classifications on the gp? Plenty of the gp is going to be walking by Goliath saying, "What's that; where did that one coaster go where your standing in it."


If you are going to base it on GP, then they are Rickety or Metal coasters with carts.
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Postby Radical-Illusion on September 18th, 2013, 9:54 pm
I really dont see a point in everyone trying to prove everyone else wrong. In all Honesty I really could care less about what type of ride it is. I dont give a damn if it is on a topper track or traditional wooden track....I cant believe how everyone is trying to outsmart everyone.
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Postby FParker185 on September 18th, 2013, 10:10 pm
As for steel structured woodies being the next step in the development of wood coasters, I got bad news, most of the Traver woodies notably Crystal Beach Cyclone and Revere Beach Lightning had a steel structure along with a majority of the Coney Island Cyclone amongst many old wood coasters. Also most GP I've come across recognize the steel structured wood coasters as being wood coasters.
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Postby Iron Wolf 90-11 on September 19th, 2013, 12:09 am
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Postby Road Rash on September 19th, 2013, 5:15 am
^ :lol:

It's a coaster, and I will ride it. That's all that matters to me.

I voted wood, by the way.
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Postby Superman on September 19th, 2013, 6:57 am
It's a good thing to discuss things like this, even though I doubt anyone's opinion will change haha.
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Postby JimPanky on September 19th, 2013, 2:35 pm
Its fun to fight it out. No matter what category it is in, if we had a poll for is Goliath going to be awesome or suck I think there would be a much higher margin of victory.
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Postby w00dland on September 19th, 2013, 5:23 pm
jadkins2012 wrote:I really dont see a point in everyone trying to prove everyone else wrong. In all Honesty I really could care less about what type of ride it is. I dont give a damn if it is on a topper track or traditional wooden track....I cant believe how everyone is trying to outsmart everyone.


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Postby Coastermonkey61 on September 19th, 2013, 7:35 pm
Iron Wolf 90-11 wrote:Image


The audible laughter I just experienced was sudden. But necessary.

Dumb topic is dumb.
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Postby Superman on September 19th, 2013, 10:11 pm
If you don't like the topic, don't comment. It's that simple.

I'm wondering if this RMC trend is just a phase, or if this is really a new generation of wooden coasters. Anyone know what kind of patents they hold, and if another company could duplicate it?
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