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Postby tribar on August 14th, 2011, 7:28 pm
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Postby Galvan on August 14th, 2011, 7:43 pm
Muck Finnesota wrote:I bet they will, eventually. Probably Labor Day weekend.

I had no plans to visit GAm anytime soon. It's unfortunate that this park needs to subtract rides in order to earn my money. This will be the last time for a long time- it's been a steady, unfortunate downward trend since 2002.



Earn your money?

Seriously, I think that car of 2 adults and 3 kids taking up a parking spot that would have been taken up by you is far an away better for Six Flags anyway.


Thanks for not taking the time out of your pampas busy schedule to go to the park., and making my waits at SFGAm longer by having your presence at the park.

If you are crying about the removal of Iron Wolf, then your in a very slim minority.
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Postby onyxhotel08 on August 14th, 2011, 8:03 pm
Slim as in pin thin minority. There are actual cricket noises from those who know it is leaving.
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Postby Ilovthevu' on August 14th, 2011, 8:14 pm
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Muck Finnesota wrote:I bet they will, eventually. Probably Labor Day weekend.

I had no plans to visit GAm anytime soon. It's unfortunate that this park needs to subtract rides in order to earn my money. This will be the last time for a long time- it's been a steady, unfortunate downward trend since 2002.


I do not get what you are trying to say. Six Flags Great America, like any park, removes rides at times when they become too costly to maintain and do not warrant more money to be put into them. They are either unpopular(Iron Wolf) or a maintenance nightmare (Splashwater Falls, Deja Vu). Every park does this. Not just Six Flags Great America. Why has it been a downward trend? Since 2003 we have added:

Superman
Mardi Gras
Hurricane Harbor
Another Water Park expansion
Little Dipper
Dark Knight
Buccaneer Battle
Sky Trail
....


Now, I know you may hate most of these. But HH and Superman were successful additions and are very popular to this day. The park has to think about three things always:

Capacity
Families
Thrill Seekers


If you are looking at the ride park though, I can understand where this person is coming from. It's the same thing people go we really need a bigger coaster - not a small Eurofighter. I think I would be happy with a Eurofighter or a Premier ride, but yes I do understand where this person is coming from. As I always said I like Dark Knight, but the times I ride it, a bunch of times I hear from other people saying they don't think it's that great of a ride. The most common phrase I hear from other people is that's it? Than they made an un-needed another area for kids rides. Sure, if they wanted to add some rides to the Looney Tunes area, that would have been a better idea to me, but look at what they did. They gutted the Looney Tunes area, and put the Go-Karts there. There was nothing wrong with that Marvin ride, that train, that foam ball place. Plus, they had the Little Dipper there, but they just gutted it instead. And sure that climbing thing looked like a pile or garbage, but add a new ride there.

The reason though why I'm not affected by "the downward trend" for the Regular Park as you call it is because I like the waterpark, I like Superman Ultimate Flight, I like the Dark Knight, and I like some of the flats we have (not just a few though - more than 8 I would say). I understand where every thrill person is coming from though.

But I do understand the removal for Iron Wolf, but I really think the "ride" that's going to replace it, is going be games or Dare Devil Dive.
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Postby CstrFan512 on August 14th, 2011, 9:07 pm
Has anyone heard how SFGAm will decide who will get the last rides on wolfie? i know it hurts but it would still be really cool!
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Postby Cole on August 14th, 2011, 9:36 pm
I would love to be on the last rides. I hope they throw a event like they did for GASM. I'd love to marathon Wolfie without lines. Im sure I am one of the few people that would enjoy marathoning Wolfie :)
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Postby onyxhotel08 on August 14th, 2011, 9:49 pm
I doubt they will do a marathon on Wolf. I mean why would you do it for like a dozen people?
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Postby ragingbull1331 on August 14th, 2011, 9:54 pm
I would marathon it, they'd have to give me some morphine though... jk :lol:
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Postby Muck Finnesota on August 15th, 2011, 12:04 am
onyxhotel08 wrote:
Muck Finnesota wrote:I bet they will, eventually. Probably Labor Day weekend.

I had no plans to visit GAm anytime soon. It's unfortunate that this park needs to subtract rides in order to earn my money. This will be the last time for a long time- it's been a steady, unfortunate downward trend since 2002.


I do not get what you are trying to say. Six Flags Great America, like any park, removes rides at times when they become too costly to maintain and do not warrant more money to be put into them. They are either unpopular(Iron Wolf) or a maintenance nightmare (Splashwater Falls, Deja Vu). Every park does this. Not just Six Flags Great America. Why has it been a downward trend? Since 2003 we have added:

Superman
Mardi Gras
Hurricane Harbor
Another Water Park expansion
Little Dipper
Dark Knight
Buccaneer Battle
Sky Trail
....


Now, I know you may hate most of these. But HH and Superman were successful additions and are very popular to this day. The park has to think about three things always:

Capacity
Families
Thrill Seekers



I think you very much get what I was trying to say, but thank you for compiling that excellent list of water rides and wild mouse coasters.

It's novel that anyone outside of corporate board/shareholders worry themselves over Six Flags catering to families. You're not getting a cut, and this isn't Roller Coaster Tycoon. Especially with a park that has no competition in a major metropolitan area- it wouldn't matter if Shockwave clones were added every other year. People will still always come back to Great America, so let us drop the whole ridiculous "concern about families" approach. Let park management worry about park managing.
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Postby onyxhotel08 on August 15th, 2011, 12:38 am
WE bring in the most profit. We may not have the most attendance but we bring in the most profit. We always get something. Our park is kept up pretty well. We have a good balance of flat rides and coasters. We badly need a new thrill ride but to say we have been neglected completely is off base. 90's and early 2000's were all about coasters. Then, the park remembered families.
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Postby Luxornv on August 15th, 2011, 9:37 pm
ragingbull1331 wrote:I would marathon it, they'd have to give me some morphine though... jk :lol:


They're closing it because the sponsorship deal with Advil fell through early in the season. Now they have no money to operate the ride. [/sarcasm][/stupid joke]
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Postby ragingbull1331 on August 15th, 2011, 9:47 pm
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ragingbull1331 wrote:I would marathon it, they'd have to give me some morphine though... jk :lol:


They're closing it because the sponsorship deal with Advil fell through early in the season. Now they have no money to operate the ride. [/sarcasm][/stupid joke]


You know, this ride sucked pretty bad, but when I put my head forward instead of letting it rest against the headrest, I didn't bang my head once. Now I'm just a little sad the ride is leaving.
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Postby Ilovthevu' on August 15th, 2011, 10:27 pm
onyxhotel08 wrote:WE bring in the most profit. We may not have the most attendance but we bring in the most profit. We always get something. Our park is kept up pretty well.
For rides running, yes I would agree, and Hurricane Harbor nothing looks bad that I've seen, but I see wear at the park in many places that they aren't keeping up.

I will comment on the Splash Water Falls area, but besides that there are other areas that need work at the park, and I mentioned these before. If you come on vacation, and you see the Splash Water Falls area on a train, you might think the park had a warzone. That looks terrible just that rubble alone plus two dead attractions, but the rubble is worse. In a year, the upkeep hurts attendance. If the people go in the Triple Play line, and see the fence for the line, they might think this is a junk park. They also could question if the line fences aren't kept up, are the rides even safe? I like the park, but you can just tell they aren't keeping up with the park. They are letting things go, and they are building the new rides instead of the upkeep with such things as lines, roofs, etc.

And I was looking at Iron Wolf's targets today, and it had three number. Two were in the middle 400 - (450), and I guess the greatest they ever did was 820 per hour. So, that's basically Deja Vu capacity, and that line is never really that packed compared to other rides. And people say we need capacity. We need capacity, but if you look at flats like East River Crawler, Fiddler's Fling, Big Easy Balloons, Triple Play, and so on and they aren't run to a greater capacity. They only have 1 worker, and mostly with 1 worker, it takes time. You look at the waterpark, and most of the time, it's not run to capacity. For 4 slides today, they had 1 lifeguard on both of the complexes for tube slides. For something like the Pictorium show that takes up people, they don't even run it past 4 pm!! That takes a lot people in that audiotorium, but they are only showing a certain amount of shows. That Pop Fusion says that it's already gone, and that started later too - I forgot when, maybe June 13th?? So, again there's your capacity.
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Postby Cole on August 15th, 2011, 11:25 pm
Cant share much more... but Iron Wolf will be seeing a APOCALYPSE at SFA...
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Postby Paradise on August 16th, 2011, 10:08 am
^Okay seriously if you have "Inside Info" and you tease everyone with a stupid "Can't share much more", what is the point?

99% of people who say they have inside info, don't.
Getting real sick of that...
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Postby Cole on August 16th, 2011, 11:15 am
It should be out there soon enough, just wanted to let you guys know.
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Postby FParker185 on August 16th, 2011, 12:33 pm
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Postby DeathbyDinn on August 16th, 2011, 1:22 pm
The ride getting an Apocalypse theme has been on Screamscape since July 25 :lol:

I’ve heard a new rumor claiming that when Iron Wolf comes to Six Flags America, it will likely feature new modern style B&M Stand-Up trains and be renamed / rethemed to have some kind of Apocalypse theme. Could they possibly reuse the same basic theme that was used on the former Terminator Salvation wooden coaster at Six Flags Magic Mountain earlier this year?
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Postby Jerrykoala2112 on August 16th, 2011, 2:13 pm
DeathbyDinn wrote:The ride getting an Apocalypse theme has been on Screamscape since July 25 :lol:

I’ve heard a new rumor claiming that when Iron Wolf comes to Six Flags America, it will likely feature new modern style B&M Stand-Up trains and be renamed / rethemed to have some kind of Apocalypse theme. Could they possibly reuse the same basic theme that was used on the former Terminator Salvation wooden coaster at Six Flags Magic Mountain earlier this year?


But all that matters is that Cole told us first :wink:
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Postby Cole on August 16th, 2011, 3:17 pm
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Postby DeathbyDinn on August 16th, 2011, 6:36 pm
If thats real, might not be the best idea to post it on a forum before its announced. :wink:
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Postby acquaz10 on August 16th, 2011, 6:40 pm
You guys were egging him on to do it. And of course it's real. You think Cole would spend his free time doing that? Haha. And stuff leaks all the time.

It seems like since I've been gone Cole is being treated as the new David. Gotta love GAm World.
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Postby DeathbyDinn on August 16th, 2011, 6:42 pm
^ How was I egging him on to do it? I was simply saying IW getting an Apocalypse theme has been rumored for a while. And I know stuff has been leaked before, but there have been times when parks will have leaked stuff pulled off of forums, like the Verbolten concept art, and B&M track pieces pictures at Dollywood.
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Postby Galvan on August 16th, 2011, 8:16 pm
acquaz10 wrote:You guys were egging him on to do it. And of course it's real. You think Cole would spend his free time doing that? Haha. And stuff leaks all the time.

It seems like since I've been gone Cole is being treated as the new David. Gotta love GAm World.




Egging him on? where?

And how I see things, is Cole is acting like some big shot know it all, just like David, so seems to me from where I sit, if anyone is treating anyone else "unfair" its someone who thinks they know everything there is about everything.

Its all about how you present yourself.

Act like a douchebag, expect to be treated like one.
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Postby acquaz10 on August 16th, 2011, 8:19 pm
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