Tardis1972 wrote:Ya, I get. I made a mistake and accidentally posted "what you asking". The post should of read "what are you asking. Stop bring it up please.
Not trying to make you mad, but if you're trying to improve your grammar, (Which you are) look at what you wrote.
Ya, I get? You mean Yeah, I get it. The post should of read "What are your asking." What are your asking? And you forgot the second quotation Stop bring it up please? You mean Stop bringing it up please?
I honestly want us to get something that makes people's top 5 lists. Goliath is great, but people still like Outlaw Run more. I think we should focus on just 1 big ride and wait maybe 4 years, rather than getting medium sized coasters every other year or so. Another example is Gatekeeper and X-Flight. Aren't we the 3rd best Six Flags park behind SFMM and SFGADV? Because I noticed a pattern:
Rides that make many people's top 5's Six Flags Magic Mountain - Full Throttle, Tatsu, and X2 (3 Rides) Six Flags Great Adventure - El Toro, Kingda Ka (2 Rides) Six Flags Great America - ................. (1 Ride)
The only problem is space - the thing that declines many ideas in this thread. We would have to take out something big for something big. Some Cedar Fairs parks have been adding Giga Coasters.
A 380 foot air time filled B&M Giga Coaster would probably make some top 5's Hey a guy can dream, can't I?
I think you add Goliath to SFMM and Nitro to SFGAd for people's possible top 5 coasters.
If I'm trying to be 'somewhat' realistic, I'd love to see SFGAm get something like Maverick or Fahrenheit or maybe even Xcelerator. Something that doesn't necessarily need a huge footprint but can offer a great exciting ride with some good speed (60-80mph).
Here's a new one. I want to see more Looney Toons on the queue line TVs and less adds. Here's on this will work, they can back and forth between Looney Toons and an add. This includes the trival challenge and Six Flags TV. Who doesn't want to see more Looney Toons.
RollingCoasting wrote: A 380 foot air time filled B&M Giga Coaster would probably make some top 5's Hey a guy can dream, can't I?
Especially when we can't build a ride or roller coaster that tall.
SFGAm can go up to 330 feet. That's plenty tall for a good airtime giga. And if I'm not mistaken, would make it the tallest one too, ahead of Millennium Force (310), Leviathan (306), Intimidator 305, and Steel Dragon (318), and only below drop rides and stratas. Obviously what they design after the lift hill is more critical, but there's some head room there to do something record-breaking.
But definitely not a B&M giga in my opinion. Chain lift hills over 200 feet are a ridiculous bore. Intamin cable hills are better suited to the task. And Intamin has shown far better success in the giga category. Millennium Force was built 14 years ago and it's still top 2, and many consider it to be best steel coaster in the world. After 14 years? That's an accomplishment.
I would love to see a giga in the Picnic Grove area. Now with Cajun gone, it gives you a little more room to add a large helix or something. Just think how awesome that would look from the walkway!
VuDooJoey wrote:I would love to see a giga in the Picnic Grove area. Now with Cajun gone, it gives you a little more room to add a large helix or something. Just think how awesome that would look from the walkway!
That...is a really good idea actually.
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In my opinion, a giga coaster has become much more likely now that we have Goliath. I think with the addition of a giga coaster, SFGAM could become more of a destination park than Cedar Point, which would bring in enough guests to make a profit on a GIGA. I don't think it's the craziest idea in the world to think we may see a giga coaster in the next 3-4 years. Or maybe I'm just trying to justify of a reason for GA to get a giga hahaha.
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Even with the addition of a major new attraction, I can't see SFGAm as a "Destination" resort... Just look at their operating schedule... The hours fall off a cliff after the 2nd week of August and they are hardly operating before school lets out... If this was a "destination" park, I would think there would be some demand on the bumper seasons...
I just can't see it falling into the same category as Cedar Point... They just have so much more... I would like to see it happen, but I just can't see it
RaceBoarder wrote:Even with the addition of a major new attraction, I can't see SFGAm as a "Destination" resort... Just look at their operating schedule... The hours fall off a cliff after the 2nd week of August and they are hardly operating before school lets out... If this was a "destination" park, I would think there would be some demand on the bumper seasons...
I just can't see it falling into the same category as Cedar Point... They just have so much more... I would like to see it happen, but I just can't see it
That's a great point, but I don't think CP has many more coasters than SFGAM. Let's compare:
EDITED LIST: Hyper Coasters: Magnum XL-200; Raging Bull Traditional Woodies: American Eagle and Viper; Mean Streak, Blue streak Hybrid Woodies: Goliath; Gemini Giga Coasters: None; Millenium Force Suspended Looping: Batman; Raptor Arrow Suspended: None; Iron Dragon Launch Coasters: None; Maverik, Top Thrill Dragster Inverted Impulse Coasters: V2; Wicked Twister Wing Coasters: Gatekeeper; X-Flight Arrow Loopers: Demon; Corkscrew Stand Up: None; Mantis
After typing all that out I'm realizing how superior a park CP is even by this small little comparison. However, I think a giga coaster would completely change how people look at Great America. And with the possible GIga going to Carrowinds I could see another coaster wars starting, which would give SF more incentive to put one in GA.
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Superman wrote:That's a great point, but I don't think CP as many more coasters than SFGAM. Let's compare: Hyper Coasters: Magnum XL-200; Raging Bull Traditional Woodies: American Eagle and Viper; Mean Streak, Gemini, Blue streak RMC Woodies: Goliath; None Giga Coasters: None; Millenium Force Suspended Looping: Batman; Raptor and Iron Dragon Launch Coasters: None; Maverik, Top Thrill Dragster Inverted Impulse Coasters: V2; Wicked Twister Wing Coasters: Gatekeeper; X-Flight Arrow Loopers: Demon; Corkscrew Stand Up: None; Mantis .
Last time I visited CP Gemini was a steel coaster and Iron Dragon was not a suspended looping
That being said, I've been to both parks many many times. If you go to CP it will ruin SFGAm for the rest of the summer. The coaster selection is not only larger, but for the most part better quality. But comparing the two parks at all is pretty silly. They have different goals and our park is by no means a destination park. It only draws people for whom it is the closet park. There is not much competition in the area at all so they don't have to really try that hard. That being said I think we've been really lucky with our last 2 coasters. This trend definitely shows that Six Flags is interested or at least testing the waters in growing our park into something more.
The capital expansion at Great America over the past few years has been nothing more than amazing While other parks have been getting used rides, Single water slides, and smaller coasters. Great America has gotten Riptide Bay, X-Flight and Goliath! 2 Major Custom Coasters and A Giant water park expansion! It seems that this trend is going to continue. As far as a Giga Coaster goes, it could be a very good possibility. If they decide to axe Yankee Clipper and Loggers Run due their age, they would have an enormous amount of Room and could use Cajuns old entrance as the Q. All hypothetical.
RaceBoarder wrote:Even with the addition of a major new attraction, I can't see SFGAm as a "Destination" resort... Just look at their operating schedule... The hours fall off a cliff after the 2nd week of August and they are hardly operating before school lets out... If this was a "destination" park, I would think there would be some demand on the bumper seasons...
I just can't see it falling into the same category as Cedar Point... They just have so much more... I would like to see it happen, but I just can't see it
That's a great point, but I don't think CP as many more coasters than SFGAM. Let's compare: Hyper Coasters: Magnum XL-200; Raging Bull Traditional Woodies: American Eagle and Viper; Mean Streak, Gemini, Blue streak RMC Woodies: Goliath; None Giga Coasters: None; Millenium Force Suspended Looping: Batman; Raptor and Iron Dragon Launch Coasters: None; Maverik, Top Thrill Dragster Inverted Impulse Coasters: V2; Wicked Twister Wing Coasters: Gatekeeper; X-Flight Arrow Loopers: Demon; Corkscrew Stand Up: None; Mantis
After typing all that out I'm realizing how superior a park CP is even by this small little comparison. However, I think a giga coaster would completely change how people look at Great America. And with the possible GIga going to Carrowinds I could see another coaster wars starting, which would give SF more incentive to put one in GA.
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Hahaha my bad guys, didn't think that through very well. Other than that, I think I had a decently well thought out point.
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SFGAMNUT9302 wrote:The capital expansion at Great America over the past few years has been nothing more than amazing While other parks have been getting used rides, Single water slides, and smaller coasters. Great America has gotten Riptide Bay, X-Flight and Goliath! 2 Major Custom Coasters and A Giant water park expansion! It seems that this trend is going to continue. As far as a Giga Coaster goes, it could be a very good possibility. If they decide to axe Yankee Clipper and Loggers Run due their age, they would have an enormous amount of Room and could use Cajuns old entrance as the Q. All hypothetical.
And if they ended up using the picnic grove as was mentioned in the other post, that would free up even more space.
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The thing about Great America is that they never even try to go near the 330 foot height limit. Only time they did it was back in Marriott's day (Sky Trek Tower) and since then only Giant Drop (which is still 100 feet shorter than 330) and Ragin Bull are the only 200+ foot rides. Just find it curious that a ride like Giant Drop where space was not an issue and could have been 300 foot, but SFGAm choses not to ever go above 230 feet. They do need a 300 foot coaster, but since the Demon is the only 42" coaster (which is probably the next to go because of age) I think a Maverick type coaster will be next...granted years down the road.
If they removed the Wilderness Theater, Both Flumes and the Picnic Grove there's a pretty sizeable chunk of land right there. As far as Fitting a Giga Coaster like Millenium Force or I305, it might have to stretch into the employee parking lot a little bit. That would be really cool for 2016, The 40th, if They decided to install a Giga Coaster, i can dream can't I? lol
SFGAMNUT9302 wrote:If they removed the Wilderness Theater, Both Flumes and the Picnic Grove there's a pretty sizeable chunk of land right there. As far as Fitting a Giga Coaster like Millenium Force or I305, it might have to stretch into the employee parking lot a little bit. That would be really cool for 2016, The 40th, if They decided to install a Giga Coaster, i can dream can't I? lol
That is a massive plot of land that I guarantee they will not waste on just one ride if they decide to clear the land you have outlined. You can get 2 modest sized coasters in there and still have some room for some flats as well. I don't think they'd get rid of Picnic Grove (they need areas for special events) though and Wilderness Theater has already made the cut with Goliath. Unless they already have future plans set for that area the Wilderness Theater would have been demolished for Goliath if they didn't see it as useful. Realistically I would think that the two flumes are on their way out in the next 5-10 years and we will get 1 decent sized coaster while keeping both the Picnic Grove and Wilderness Theater. Just my thoughts though
SFGAMNUT9302 wrote:If they removed the Wilderness Theater, Both Flumes and the Picnic Grove there's a pretty sizeable chunk of land right there. As far as Fitting a Giga Coaster like Millenium Force or I305, it might have to stretch into the employee parking lot a little bit. That would be really cool for 2016, The 40th, if They decided to install a Giga Coaster, i can dream can't I? lol
That is a massive plot of land that I guarantee they will not waste on just one ride if they decide to clear the land you have outlined. You can get 2 modest sized coasters in there and still have some room for some flats as well. I don't think they'd get rid of Picnic Grove (they need areas for special events) though and Wilderness Theater has already made the cut with Goliath. Unless they already have future plans set for that area the Wilderness Theater would have been demolished for Goliath if they didn't see it as useful. Realistically I would think that the two flumes are on their way out in the next 5-10 years and we will get 1 decent sized coaster while keeping both the Picnic Grove and Wilderness Theater. Just my thoughts though
I think Great America has really been moving towards the mindset of quality over quantity, with the two examples of Goliath and X-Flight (though the argument could be made that this is not true because of things like igNight). I don't think they would just throw a couple of decent coasters and a few flats in there. As a business, they want to bring in more guests and I don't think what you described would bring in enough guests to cover the expenses of the expansion. However, I think putting in a giga coaster would. Heck, they might put in something we've never seen before. In any case, if they do decide to make some type of expansion similar to this, it will have to be big and exciting in order to make a profit.
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