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Postby Aero737 on January 28th, 2004, 12:17 am
I would believe that there would be a sensor in thoes seatbelts, but I don't think they would stop a train over it. (I don't know if batman/iron wolf would have sensors given the type of seatbelt) I know that some rollerocasters like superman have sensors (hence all the onboard electronics).
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Postby Papas on January 28th, 2004, 4:16 am
Whizzer's new "staple" seatbelts were installed to some cars during Fright Fest 2003, so a lot of you probably still rode with the old seatbelts. Basically the staple seatbelts don't allow you to move at cause they don't stretch at all. Oh well better than seatbelts and lapbars.
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Postby SFGAm Shock Wave on January 28th, 2004, 7:59 am
They have a camera on Batman's lift. If they see any dangling seat belts, they stop it on the lift and go up and make the person buckle it. I've seen it happen all the time, once when I was on the ride.
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Postby Papas on January 28th, 2004, 8:26 am
/\ Yeah most of the times B:TR stops on the lift is because guest misbehavior (as I like to call it :wink:).
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Postby SFGAMkid on January 28th, 2004, 4:35 pm
I absolutley hate people that tick off ride ops, or other guests on the ride when they do something like taking off their seatbelt or undoing something while the ride is in motion.

If you ask me, you kick them off the ride, and then kick them out of the park if need be. It only takes one person to do something that stupid. I mean think about the possibility of death or serious injury just because they do something like that.
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Postby coastrcorey on January 28th, 2004, 5:29 pm
InsaneNewman wrote:Not a chance... if you wanted to unlock those seatbelts, what are they going to do? Give you a harsh scolding? There are no sensors on those belts, it'd be a waste of money... they're just backup anyway, just in case the harnesses unlock (which almost never happens). It would be ridiculous to have a sensor. There's nothing they can do once you're out of the station anyway.


They've got sensors in them. I was on it when some idiot in the row behind us decided to unbuckle his belt. The lift stopped right after that, mid-way up. Took about 15 min, until the guy realized, "Oh, I wonder if it's because I unbuckled my seatbelt..." How could it be a waste of money? It'd be a waste of money if someone died because their belt was unbuckled (obviously this would be a completely rare accident). There are sensors all over roller coasters, everywhere. I don't think it would add a whole lot to the total cost to have them implemented into saftey belts.
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Postby InsaneNewman on January 28th, 2004, 7:38 pm
coastrcorey wrote:They've got sensors in them. I was on it when some idiot in the row behind us decided to unbuckle his belt. The lift stopped right after that, mid-way up. Took about 15 min, until the guy realized, "Oh, I wonder if it's because I unbuckled my seatbelt..." How could it be a waste of money? It'd be a waste of money if someone died because their belt was unbuckled (obviously this would be a completely rare accident). There are sensors all over roller coasters, everywhere. I don't think it would add a whole lot to the total cost to have them implemented into saftey belts.


Read the post by SFGAm Shock Wave... It's a camera. Why would you install costly sensors in every seat when all it takes is one camera? The ride cannot be stopped once it is off the lift. It's gravity powered.
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Postby Timmy179 on January 28th, 2004, 8:13 pm
where is this "camera" on the lift, I think it would take more than one camera to supervise all of the rows.
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Postby twixmix0303 on January 28th, 2004, 11:47 pm
I haven't seen the camera itself, but now that you mentioned it, I do remember one of the many monitors in the station showing people's feet on the lift hill. I couldn't figure out why they'd look at people's feet, but this is probably why. Another camera looks at the train waiting to enter the station, another looks at the stairway from the sewer up to the loading platform.
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Postby FParker185 on February 5th, 2004, 1:28 am
there are a total of 4 or 6 cameras, 2 at the top (one on each side of the track), 2 half way up, and I belive to just as you leave the station on Batmans lift, there are no sensors in the Seatbelts or the buckles, they are standard Marine Buckles. The ride ops do watch the cameras rather closely and if they see a dangling seatbelt they will stop the lift.

East River Crawler and the Carousel did get seatbelts in August and there are more to come (Rumor has it Viper and Eagle will both be sporting seatbelts come opening day, and I wouldnt doubt seeing them on more flats as time passes. AGR will not get them for now obvious reasons :)

Also Ragin Cajun will have them but most parks dont use them exept for small children, that will have standard bizarre lapbar/OTSR combo spanning 2 seats each.
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Postby monopotassium on February 5th, 2004, 1:47 am
FParker185 wrote:there are a total of 4 or 6 cameras, 2 at the top (one on each side of the track), 2 half way up, and I belive to just as you leave the station on Batmans lift,


In order: not as you present them, but the latter; not quite; nope; maybe almost correct, but not really.
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Postby FParker185 on February 5th, 2004, 4:59 am
Maybe you'd like to tell us where they are. I know that there are multiple cameras on the lift(one or 2 of the video feeds end up going to those monitors on the exit side of the platform, one of which latelthas been showing Batman Dark Night Animation), Not being able to remember I assumed it was the same as most other B&M's I've ridden that have lift cameras. (Now I'm really curious as I always notice every one when I ride it, but for the life of me I cant think exactly where they are)
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Postby Papas on February 5th, 2004, 7:56 am
This whole conversation a few posts up reminds me of the "Pitt Fall accident" ;).
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Postby monopotassium on February 5th, 2004, 5:01 pm
FParker185 wrote:Maybe you'd like to tell us where they are. I know that there are multiple cameras on the lift(one or 2 of the video feeds end up going to those monitors on the exit side of the platform, one of which latelthas been showing Batman Dark Night Animation), Not being able to remember I assumed it was the same as most other B&M's I've ridden that have lift cameras. (Now I'm really curious as I always notice every one when I ride it, but for the life of me I cant think exactly where they are)


Why should I tell you where they are when you are so sure of it? You know wrongly. There are not multiple cameras on the lift. There's a difference between the lift on Batman and most other B&M's in the world.
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Postby da rcman2001 on February 5th, 2004, 8:01 pm
I dont know how a convo about columbia carosuel turned into cameras, and i dont want to reread the whole topic. But anyways, a little off topic, but nowhere near as fare off as the posts before me, the should make columbia taller 8) .
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Postby FParker185 on February 5th, 2004, 10:21 pm
a Simple no would have sufficed :)

Also you wouldnt be telling me, you'd be correcting my blatant accidentally false statement and you would be informing the masses of the fact instead of looking like a..... well I can leve it up to everyone else's imaginations to finish the statement.

I have ridden 9 Different Batmen and Batman Clones and they all merge together in my head, when I think of one, I may be thinking of another one entirely.

Also I did freely admit in my last post that I do not know the locations of SFGAm's Batman cameras, just that there is more than one and I assumed (bad thing to do in life, I know) that it was the same or similar to other B&M coasters. (never thought in my life I'd debate such miniscule facts (I love it) :)

Also let it be noted that there are no sensors in the seatbelt buckles, and that is universally agreed upon.

Anyways, back on Topic The Seatbetls on the Columbia are pretty bogus and are dangerous if you ask me. If a small kid were to slip off his horse instead of falling to the carpeted floor, I can see the belt under certain conditions slipping up to the kids neck strangling them unless there is a fast acting parent, though the repeated bashing against the floor from the motion of the horse would only add to the list of injuries in the following lawsuit. Really in the end all they do is embarass adults and teens that do happen to ride and in the end will lower ridership of the ride.
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Postby Papas on February 5th, 2004, 10:56 pm
Think of it this way....at least people don't jump horses anymore.
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