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SfGam and SFHH 5/21/05- Can you say, Amazing?

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Postby DejaVu The Ride on May 21st, 2005, 1:27 pm
Date: 5/21/05

Basically, ACE members were sent e-mails to particpate in a special Hurricane Harbor tour for last Saturday. That was cancelled and rescheduled for today.

So I get up at 5:30 this morning and head out to Gurnee by 6:15. Arrived at the park by 7:45. The gates weren't open yet, but it appeared that there were TOO many cars. Yes, there were regular park-goers already at the park. Acers(although you didn't really need to be in ACE) were sent into the parking lot and went to parking. We went to the main gate where we were greeted by two of our Pr ladies. (Lisa and Katie) Then Ron Sevart(Gm and tour leader) came out and welcomed us to the tour.

Since there is so much to say, I will just post random thoughts about the tour which consisted of no more than 20 people.

1. Tour was supposed to last only 1 hour(8-9) but lasted all the way to 10:10 or so.
2. It was a very neat experience walking through the main park before the public was even let into the parking lot. There were lots of cars and trucks driving around and getting the park ready for opening.
3. Sevart mentioned that a new sign for Nascar Experience will be added at the Pictorium. It should be up soon.(June?)
4. Much of Hometown Square is expected to be repaved(?) soon. It is to upkeep a lacking area of the park.
5. Many new roofs were added this year.(About $7,000 a roof).
6. The area near Orbit is expected to be the busiest part of the park. Hence the reason that games were stacked in that area.
7. The fountain by Orbit was removed intentionally. Sevart said it didn't meet the park's standards.
8. The 6 new games near SWT are coming along very nicely. Many of the games are already in place and some stuffed animals are already present.
9. It was confirmed that the Shooting Gallery is indeed becoming a restaurant. Nothing special though as it will just be an "everything" snack area. A patio is being contructed next to the restaurant. It is a prime location for a new snack shack.
10. The entrance to Hurricane Harbor is coming along VERY nicely. The pillars sort of form a star and in the middle is a fountain. The whole "pillar" entrance area will be bricked.
11. The Hurricane Harbor path will be split in two parts. An entrance and an exit path.
12. Signs are beginning to appear everywhere. Sevart mentioned that the best ones are yet to be placed.
13. There is an iron entrance gate at the "pillar" entrance.
14. The park pondered over 3 different path locations, but decided on the current one.
15. There is a shelter area right at the end of the path back toward Viper. This will be a stopping area(hopefully only on peak summer days) to hold people who wish to enter a full capacity waterpark.
16. The first thing I noticed is that, the paths aren't just regular concrete. They are special paths which have shapes encripped in them.(IG lobsters, fish, leaves, etc.)
17. The first attraction/shop you encounter is Hurricane Hanks. It is the main gift shop in which will sell many swim products, etc. The highlight of this shop will be the interactive parrot. You can say things to it and it will repeat what you said. The floors will be wooded.(I can't recall what the real name is.)
18. The Pink Flamingo will be the largest food outlet in any system waterpark. It has over seven counter areas. The patio area is also the largest food patio in the system. This area is huge!!!
19. Down the way, you will encounter tube rentals, changing shower rooms, lost parents, etc. We needed a little imagination for this right now.
20. The changing/shower rooms are going to be very high quality with lots of room! It will also contain the hand-dryers that "blow you across the room." :wink:
21. Restroom #7 in the main park is going to be continuously revamped.(I think it is the one near Orbit.)
22. Sevart said he has been part of the contruction of 4 different waterparks.(SFGAm, SFGadv, SfNE, and I think Oceans of Fun at WOF.) This is the only one that he feels that was right on schedule.
23. Sevart stressed that the waterpark may look like a long way off, but that it will go to the crunch time and open as ready as it's going to be.
24. The lazy river is ready to be filled. They were cleaning the lazy river today and washing it down. It is expected to be filled (I forget, today?) and will take 24 hours to be filled.
25. The family raft slides are on the same system, so they should be ready to be filled soon, too.
26. Hurricane Mountain's pool was filled.
27. Banking was added to the bottom of the green and blue family slide. :wink:
28. They were working hard on the other family slide. A piece was slid off for some work.
29. Sevart expects the green and blue family raft ride to be more popular than the other.
30. The raft lift was installed, but ended up being 8 inches too short. It will work out somehow.
31. There were TONS of workers working, even at 8am!
32. There are tiki fountains in the lazy river that will shoot water, along with many other surprises. The rock sides of the lazy river look amazing!
33. The area near the wave pool is actually rather small, with quite a few shading units outlining the "beach" area. The park expects most families to claim "base" near Skull Island.
34. The atomic coasters have undergone slide testing and a few slight modifications are expected to be made.
35. There are two entrances for this complex. One for the body slides and the other for the tube slides.
36. We were invited to climb the 6 slide tower. There were some amazing shots from up there. There will also be shade units at the top of each tower.(This is something you don't see too often at waterparks.)
37. We were led to the back part of the wavepool. This is something that most people will never do.
38. Speed boats are placed right behind the wavepool. 2 of the three of them are expected to be painted.
39. The lounge chairs are going to be high-quality. Not the normal lounge chairs you see at waterparks.(I can't really describe what he said.)
40. Saltwater Sals is a Tiki Bar. This is expected to be very popular. There are bathrooms right behind it.
41. Behind Saltwaters Sals. I believe they will be adding cabana rental with servers from Saltwater Sals attending to your cabana.
41. There will be a stage right in this general area. There will be 3 or 4 different bands each day. One will include a Bob Marley type guy.
42. Slide testing for Hurricane Mountain is expected to take place today.
43. Wahoo Racers should be slide testing soon.
44. About 75-80 percent of concrete work is done.
45. Skull Island is massive and the waterslides look great. This will NOT be ready for Wednesdays media day but IS expected to be ready for opening day.(They will be working down to the last minute, along with the rest of the park.
46. The seating area for Skull Island as well as Bucaneer Bay is also massive. There is also tons of shade already in place.
47. A huge Funnel Cake stand is being added near the changing facilities.
48. The park is really pushing for atmosphere. They are trying to make it feel like you are not withing walking distance of roller coasters. Sevart was also asking for requests for park music.
49. Here's a huge surprise. There will be tons of sand all over the park. You will be allowed to take shade and "base" in a few of the beaches that will be made with real sand.
50. Many acers were videotaping/taking pictures of the tour.
51. The park has hired landscaping designers. Palms were sent in by refrigerated trucks from Florida. The first batch are currently being stored in the parking lot. Some of them are as much as 25 feet high. Many plants have already been planted. There will be tons of trees and palms everywhere! 4 more huge truckloads are expected to arrive soon.
52. The last parts for Skull Island arrived around 9:30.
53. We were allowed to go into the wavepool and put our feet in. I jumped at the chance and I believe I was the first member of the GP to step foot in the wave pool. Even Sevart hasn't even done it. Dan(DanHockey04) was second. (Dan told me it sounded as if we were one of the first if not the first people to actually go in.) BTW, it was only a few inches deep.
54. Wave programs are expected to be tested tomorrow I believe.
55. Condor now has its birds back on and is expected to open soon.
56. Sevart is very optimistic about the parks. He wants it to be the best in the whole system and believes it will once again be "Great America" and not just "Good America."
57. He is very open to ideas or requests.
58. Sevart talked a lot about the tolls.
59. The highway sign should be updated with HH's logo. A rodent(?) was killed by the sign. That's why the sign was not lit the last few days.
60. It was neat seeing Am tests! Every ride was doing some testing.
61. Warning, Warning, Warning! Take Cover! It's coming. :wink: (It wasn't confirmed, but it obviously wasn't denied. I was actually surprised we were even focused in this area.
62. The not so mystery catch pool has been filled with sand and the park expects to create a sitting area for the time being. This is the only area where sod should be used.
63. A "summer stage" is expected to be added near Skull Island. I forget what this will be used for.
64. The games that replaced the fountain by Orbit are expected to become "Whack a Mr.Six." :wink: Corporate needs to finalize this.

There is so much more to say and I hope I didn't forget anything.

I had to leave by 10:30 so I was only able to ride 2 rides. I rode DejaVu with a 10-15 minute wait. Then I hopped on Demon for a quick ride and left. Today was Joyfest, and the park was beginning to get REAL busy. Condor, IMS, and Roaring Rapids were the only rides expected to be closed. Bull had 3 trains running and Whizzer had 2, but I can only assume that they would add the third.

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Postby da rcman2001 on May 21st, 2005, 1:48 pm
Thats so awesome that they are actually going to have real palm trees. One question though: How do they expect to keep them alive in the winter? this is the first six flags water park with real palm trees that isnt in a warm climate that can support them. Will they just put them back on a truck and send them back to florida every year, or replace the dead ones every spring with new ones?

That sounds awesome. I wish I was there and that really got me pumped up about going to this park. BTW, I cant believe how much six flags is getting into theming this park. Theres going to be boats, palm trees, ect. A girl in my class at warren is going to work at hurricane harbor, and shes going to play steel drums. Pretty good stuff.
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Postby DejaVu The Ride on May 21st, 2005, 1:53 pm
They expect to have a constant supply to palm trees coming every year to replace dead ones. (This is what I was led to believe.)

It truly sounds as if the park was let free with this project. The Webcam gives the park NO JUSTICE!!! Just wait until you see it for yourself.

BTW, it sounds as if Condor was down because of parts slowly being sent. Sevart mentioned having people sent to other countries to pick up the parts personally. He mentioned that it would get the rides up faster.

He also mentioned how he sent people to Florida marinas to pick up any theming they needed for the park. Theming and everything else is being provided from ALL over the country.
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Postby danieln84 on May 21st, 2005, 2:10 pm
sounds awsome. Is hurricane Harbor one of those things were i wont be able to just Walk in a check it out really quick and leave? or are they only letting people enter the park that plan on actually using it?
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Postby DejaVu The Ride on May 21st, 2005, 2:12 pm
You will be able to walk right in and do whatever you please(with restraint.) They actually expect to have a lot of people come in and just check it out because they didn't know about it.

And No, you can't just take photos from the top of Raging Bull. It is against park rules. :(

BTW, Sevart also mentioned his strong dislike to line-jumping. He doesn't feel that a strong security guard is the answer. He is pondering an idea to have a camera in the lines.

Also, Sevart wants to address the lose article situations. He mentioned that they want a unique way to deal with it.(Not just by lockers at ride entrances.) I guess we shall see.
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Postby Timmy179 on May 21st, 2005, 2:18 pm
awesome Tr, not alot of those anymore.


The general feel im getting from Sevart is a really good one. He seems like an all around good manager, looking to make the whole park better, not just parts of it.
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Postby SFGA 11 on May 21st, 2005, 2:43 pm
Thank you for the update! HH sounds evenbetter than I imagined. Cant wait to go in there June 4th. Any one on here happen to be there and take pics?
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Postby CoasterDave316 on May 21st, 2005, 4:10 pm
One Question...how did you remember almost everything that was talked about. Did you have a voice recorder in your pocket or something.....wow.

Few things though, as far as the Pictorium they said they would be adding a Nascar out in front of it as well as a new sign. The waterpark looks so much nicer and complete from walking around then it does from sky trek tower or the webcam. I was amazed at how close alot of things actually were to being finished, and the landscaping that has been done so far looks really great.

Ill probably have pictures up tonight from the tour.
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Postby DejaVu The Ride on May 21st, 2005, 4:44 pm
^^^
I just have a very good memory. No voice recorders. I just re-routed the tour in my head and tried to remember what Ron Sevart said.

BTW, I couldn't really hear Sevart when he was talking about the Pictorium. All I heard was "new sign" and "by June".
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Postby Dmrbug on May 21st, 2005, 4:58 pm
Thanks for the update, great TR.
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Postby Maggie&meSFGAm? on May 21st, 2005, 5:13 pm
Nice report! As for the rest of the day, I would have to say that the park was packed. I even think I saw Maggie (Maggie in question) with two other girls walk really fast by me. It was really at a small glance. I couldn't find where they went when I realized it. So, it was like the whole world was at SFGAm today. LOL SFGAm=great no matter what day.

It was fun to see the condor car on a crane in the air. Fiddler's Fling had some down time along with TP being closed for the day. The rollercoasters ques were pretty full today.
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Postby danieln84 on May 21st, 2005, 7:23 pm
I think they should do what cedar point does.

I remember at most rides they said All loose articles had to be left in lockers or non riders. no loose articals were aloud past the Queue entrance. maybe they could do that...and remove the bins? do you think that would speed up the boarding process?
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Postby SIC COASTER on May 21st, 2005, 8:06 pm
Nope and superman proved that.
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Postby LAFFfan4lyfe on May 21st, 2005, 8:44 pm
Sounds like it was fun. i wish i could have gone, it would have been fun, and I would have loved to put my feet in the wave pool :)
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Postby Bob O on May 21st, 2005, 9:18 pm
It will be interesting too see HH once the palm trees are up and see how much shade there is actually going to be, and i wonder how many chairs/tables etc they are going to have as they seemed to have alot of things crammed in a small area and i thibk HH will be extremely busy.
And while its nice to hear the comments from management, i want to see what they are going to do about people skipping in lines/smoking in lines and being vulgar etc. Unless a guard is there to kick out a violator the camera's wont accomplish much.
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Postby SF Critic on May 21st, 2005, 10:36 pm
da rcman2001 wrote:Thats so awesome that they are actually going to have real palm trees. One question though: How do they expect to keep them alive in the winter? this is the first six flags water park with real palm trees that isnt in a warm climate that can support them. Will they just put them back on a truck and send them back to florida every year, or replace the dead ones every spring with new ones?


I believe that is untrue. Hurricane Harbors @ other SF i believe had real palm trees also. Now I never been to a Hurricane Harbor park yet till I experience our New Hurricane Harbor park this year @ Six Flags America. And basically every Hurricane Harbor has the same theming. For the palm trees, that will be alot of shipping back and forth.

Palm trees that won't survive at these Hurricane Harbors (SFGAm, SFA, SFNE, SFGAdv, SFStL). As far as it goes I think they might just let the palm trees die and just ship new ones. Only time will tell.
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Postby sixflagsguy5 on May 22nd, 2005, 12:07 am
I'll just add this here. When I was eating at Wascals, about 5 tables over there were 4 security gaurds and from what I heard, it sounded like someone had bought beer at Pizza Luigi and brought it over there and sold it to minors. Then they were questioning him, and I saw him make a dash from the gaurds. He ran inbetween Revolution, and the ring toss game. One security gaurd made a left hook around Revolution, one made a right hook around the ring toss game, and one went straight for him. When I saw him run, we ran over there to see him get caught. They got him, and took him into the arcade in the back to take care of things. I really liked how they took care of this situation. Thanks to Six Flags for their great security!!

Also, I was on the tour too if anyone else from here was there that I didn't talk to. The waterpark seemed to be much bigger than I expected it to be. It's amazing that they're going to be able to finish that park in a few days. Of course, they won't have all of the things done, but the main things should be done.

The day was pretty good overall. I stayed from open to close. I got: V2:6,RB:1,AE:2,GD:4,VU:2,IW:1,Viper:1, Great American Raceway:1.
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Postby Danhockey04 on May 22nd, 2005, 12:17 pm
Jeff, you may have been the first one in the wave pool, but I went in farther than you. :wink:
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Postby DejaVu The Ride on May 22nd, 2005, 12:22 pm
^^^^ I'm going to be going down the purple slide before you. :wink:
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Postby Danhockey04 on May 22nd, 2005, 1:02 pm
SF Critic wrote:Palm trees that won't survive at these Hurricane Harbors (SFGAm, SFA, SFNE, SFGAdv, SFStL). As far as it goes I think they might just let the palm trees die and just ship new ones. Only time will tell.


They did mention that they could have a chance of surviving over the winter if they lay the palm trees down on its sides. However, he mentioned that they plan to but new palm trees for each season.
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Postby coastermadness05 on May 22nd, 2005, 1:57 pm
Jeff are you actually going to go on the slides for media day.. I havent decided yet? They said they should start heating the water monday, but it only goes up a few degrees per day.
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Postby Aero737 on May 22nd, 2005, 1:59 pm
Well, they also have the option of moving them inside. If the palm trees stay small enough and they have room in a ware house, they can dig up the root ball (Palm trees have small root balls) and move them into a building. Just keep them watered and put a sunlamp on them and they should be fine.

We do this at my work with palms and planters.
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Postby themanoftheland8 on May 22nd, 2005, 2:26 pm
I was looking at the pictures of the tour and I saw the bowls on the pink and yellow slide and the blue and green slide. Does anyone know how those will work? Also, does anyone know how the lines will work? I'm assuming there will be one line for each island until you get up to the top but....
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Postby coastermadness05 on May 22nd, 2005, 2:55 pm
If you look at the picture looking down at the inside of the bowl from the top where we were standing, it looks like you will wrap around the inside once then shoot through the hole in the middle.
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Postby DejaVu The Ride on May 22nd, 2005, 3:10 pm
http://proslide.com/whatsnew/whatsnew.htm

Scroll down here to the 2001 addition.(Cannonbowl) A nice video is provided to see what the slides will be like.

BTW, Sevart also mentioned the huge increase of cameras at season pass processing. I think he mentioned that they had only 12 last year(?) and now have like 20.

Also, Nick, why wouldn't I ride the slides on media day? :wink: You should too.
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