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Postby GamRCFreak on June 23rd, 2003, 12:43 am
We all know how T_Biggs feels about people bringing cameras on rides without the park knowing. How does everyone else feel?(as a side note, here is one place I really would have liked to post a poll. It would've created an anonymity[sp?] that would encourage more people to vote.)
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Postby CoasterDave316 on June 23rd, 2003, 5:05 pm
Travis deleted one of my links to a video....errrr :evil: :twisted:
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Postby NoUseForAName on June 23rd, 2003, 5:54 pm
I really don't understand why he cares so much, its not like this site is official affilated with SF. Also I think SF has better things to do than track down websites that have illegal video and besides wouldn't POV videos help attracted more guest by showing off there coasters?
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Postby T_Biggs on June 23rd, 2003, 8:27 pm
Fact is, even if this isn't an official site, it still shouldn't condone breaking of park rules. Coasterbuzz, even though it's hated by many who visit sites like Six Flags News, or other coaster forums, is on very good terms with parks. Why? It's because the owner and moderators do not allow people to activly discuss how to break rules, or plan to break rules, or anything like that. If activity occurs on any site that encourages breaking rules or laws, the site is no good and as pathetic as the old Thrill Ride forums (I don't know how many of you ever saw those, I think they still live on under another name, but they were pathetic and overrun with everything but useful content.)Oh, also, I can't stand idiots who make on-rides. I don't care how secure you think your camera is. If you get proper permission from the park, I'm sure they make sure your camera is secure enough, but otherwise, there is still a chance it will fly out of your hand. Even if its less than 1 pound, moving at 50+ mph can really hurt someone else. Who cares if it hurts the cameraman, it's the other people who are put in danger. Nobody has the right to put other people in danger. Be it by them possibly getting lung cancer, or them possibly getting a concussion from a flying object._________________
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Postby Chitown on June 23rd, 2003, 11:04 pm
Couldnt agree more with what Travis has stated. Safety is no accident.The other thing I dont understand is why on god's green earth would you want to take an expensive digital camcorder onto a ride and risk losing it or damaging it?While some of us have money at our disposal(I am not one of those), most of us have to spend hard-earned dollars to purchase these items. If I spent 5,6,7,8,9 hundred , heck throw in a thousand dollars for a camcorder, no way in hell would I bring that on a coaster with me.
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Postby SFGAmfreak4life on June 23rd, 2003, 11:13 pm
I couldnt agree more with what T_Biggs and Chitown said. If T_Biggs or anyone else let just one video that was recorded without SF consent slide by then that would encourage everybody to break the rules.
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Postby GamRCFreak on June 24th, 2003, 10:22 am
Coasterdude316: That was what inspired me to make this topic.T_Biggs: I understand and agree with how you feel. Safety is an important issue at parks. One incident with a camera colliding into a person could create the posibility of not being able to bring a camera into a park at all.
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Postby CoasterDave316 on June 24th, 2003, 6:39 pm
I agree with T_Biggs about the onride photos/videos and stuff. The only problem I had with the video link I posted, was that there was No proof that it was a illegal video. It wasn't an onride video at all. It was just a video of Dragster rolling back during a Test run from Hotel Breakers parking lot.I admit, I used to take on ride video and photos every once in awhile. But when I nearly lost my camera last year on Iron Wolf trying to get pics of the Superman track, I stopped. Like Chitown said, its not worth it. Not only will it cost you money, but it could do some real damage if it ever slipped out of your hands and hit somebody.And for those thinking "I will never lose my camera, I hold onto it too tight." or "I won't lose it because I have it straped to my wrist." Your wrong, you could eaisly lose it at any point of the ride. I almost lost mine on the lift on Iron Wolf. I had it in my hand, went up to take a picture and my thumb hit the handle on the restraint. Camera came out of my hand and the wrist strap nearly fell off. Luckily though I caught the wrist strap with 1 finger and was able to grab the camera before going down the drop. So with that said, no matter how cheap the camera...Don't risk it!
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Postby NoUseForAName on June 24th, 2003, 7:05 pm
Yeah T_Biggs I agree totally but there isn't a"Safety hazard" with off-ride videos.
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Postby coasterzak on June 24th, 2003, 7:09 pm
I do have to agree with Travis - Safety is first! I made a mistake a year back on a ride that was very unsafe and then I saw how selfish I was with a choice I had made, Jeff got mad at me on Coasterbuzz, and I thought he was being overprotective. But, safety is not something to be taken lightly and the rules should be abided by. Not to sound like a mom, but you wouldn't want a camera flying at you at 50 mph. Stuff like this caused a big problem at Gadv.com forums. They finally banned all of it. I agree with the control of videos.
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Postby T_Biggs on June 24th, 2003, 7:42 pm
But, the video you re-posted the link to, Dave, was taken while trespassing. Now the park is open, and it would be fine to take that video, but the park wasn't open, and that area of the park was not open to guests, only the pass front ticket area (pass processing) was. If it was a video from the same spot today, there would be no problem, but if you honestly don't think there is a problem with pulicizing a video taken while trespassing, there isn't much I can do. Fact is the video under question was taken in the off season while trespassing.
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Postby coastrcorey on June 24th, 2003, 9:59 pm
Do you have proof that it was trespassing? I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just wondering...
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Postby CoasterDave316 on June 24th, 2003, 10:12 pm
Travis theres no proof that that is tresspassing. Who knows that could have been a employee of the hotel who took that video, you don't know. Onrides however are obvious that they broke the rules.
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Postby coasterzak on June 24th, 2003, 10:20 pm
Yeah, illegal videos too are bad and promote trespassing. Just use common sense when posting them and you'll be A-Okay.
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Postby SFGAmfreak4life on June 24th, 2003, 11:46 pm
I also took pictures of S:UF track..but it was the first day it was on site. I took a few pictures and we were about to go down the drop. I panicked and almost dropped the camera but I put it away just in time. After that incident I never thought about making an onride video again. Safety first.
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