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Postby sixflagsguy5 on February 8th, 2005, 8:21 pm
Do you consider free fall rides to be roller coasters. I know that officially they are not, but do you? If you do, then what type do you consider?

I consider anything with wheels on track to be a roller coaster. For example, I consider giant drop type rides, and rides like Demon Drop to be roller coasters. I think even that freefall rides, like Demon Drop are not considered roller coasters, they should be. It starts off with an elevator lift type thing, to lift to the top. Then it moves forward, and drops. If this is not considered a roller coaster, then no imcomplete circuit ride should be consedered a roller coaster. S;TE is considered a roller coaster, and it is similar to a Demon Drop ride, only it has a launch, not a lift.
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Postby SIC COASTER on February 8th, 2005, 9:11 pm
So you consider a train ride a rollercoaster?
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Postby Aero737 on February 8th, 2005, 9:15 pm
Do you consider Giant Drop a rollercoaster? It has wheels that run along a track, but at the same time Condor also has wheels that run along the same type of track as Giant Drop.

Pearsonally, I do not.
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Postby Galvan on February 8th, 2005, 9:40 pm
In that case V2 is not a coaster either
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Postby w00dland on February 8th, 2005, 10:03 pm
I don't even understand why people get all "technical" about what is or is not a roller coaster. Isn't it common sense to you people!?!? In my opinion if a park advertises it as a roller coaster it's a roller coaster.

EDIT: And before you guys (or Galvan, because I should have known he'd be the first guy to say it. Go back to California!) go off on "What if a park advertises a HUSS Frisbee as a roller coaster!?!?" They won't.
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Postby Galvan on February 8th, 2005, 10:16 pm
What if they advertise there new Lemon Chill Stand as a Coaster? then what?
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Postby FParker185 on February 8th, 2005, 10:43 pm
I'll chime in with... Giant Drops dont have wheels, they slide on a greased track with nothing to roll on at all.

And I go on a case by case basis, I dont consider any Tower Rides Coasters including 1'st generation freefalls, and I dont count STE either along with Powered Coasters, like the Mack Blauer's and Zamperla Dragons. I do count V2 and other impulses event though I'd really rather not as it's quite questionable, and I count gravity powered Dragon Wagons and other gravity powered kiddie coasters, along with portable coasters(gravity powered of course). It really comes down to personal preferences, everyone has an opinion.
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Postby Aero737 on February 8th, 2005, 11:24 pm
Galvan316 wrote:In that case V2 is not a coaster either



How so?
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Postby Galvan on February 9th, 2005, 4:16 pm
If this is not considered a roller coaster, then no imcomplete circuit ride should be consedered a roller coaster


thats why.
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Postby Aero737 on February 9th, 2005, 4:18 pm
DeJaVu must not be a coaster either then.
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Postby Galvan on February 9th, 2005, 4:29 pm
Or any Vekoma Boomerang or Greezed Lightnin' or Mr. Freeze
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Postby Aero737 on February 9th, 2005, 5:46 pm
So mike, you only consider a rollercoaster if it makes a complete circle? What are rides such as DeJaVu and the impulses then?
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Postby Do I Know You on February 9th, 2005, 6:01 pm
Main Entry: roll·er coast·er
Pronunciation: 'rO-l&r-"kO-st&r, 'rO-lE-"kO-
Function: noun
an elevated railway (as in an amusement park) constructed with sharp curves and steep inclines on which cars roll
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Postby twixmix0303 on February 9th, 2005, 6:46 pm
Freefalls have no curves, so I guess not.
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Postby Aero737 on February 9th, 2005, 7:05 pm
But at the same time, Superman has no curves nor does V2.

(Just so you know, I think that those rides are indeed coasters, I'm just arguing the other point right now)
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Postby sixflagsguy5 on February 9th, 2005, 10:26 pm
My main question was about why demon drop and the edge aren't considered roller coasters. I did not know that Giant Drop doesn't have wheels. There's a roller coaster DVD I have, and this guy says that a roller coaster is a car that runs fast on a track. I think the main reason he said it was to consider S;TE a roller coaster, but that's how I got the idea to consider GD a roller coaster.

And the reason condor is not a coaster is cause it does not move freely on its own at all, its all motors and cables.
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Postby mschulz5 on February 9th, 2005, 11:25 pm
when deciding if something is a coaster or not, I simply just use something I like to call COMMON SENSE. I mean come on, if it looks like a coaster, tastes like a coaster, and feels like a coaster, then by golly, it's probably considered a coaster.
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Postby twixmix0303 on February 10th, 2005, 12:08 am
aero737 wrote:But at the same time, Superman has no curves nor does V2.

(Just so you know, I think that those rides are indeed coasters, I'm just arguing the other point right now)


Umm, I don't know about Superman, but V2 has 2 curves (plus a twist).
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Postby Aero737 on February 10th, 2005, 11:34 am
No, V2 has 2 steep inclines, a curve would imply a change in bearing or direction.
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Postby twixmix0303 on February 10th, 2005, 7:17 pm
Yes, it has two steep inclines, but how does it get from horizontal to vertical? Just like on the top of American Eagle, there is a curve with a very tight radius.
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Postby CoasterDude12-2 on February 10th, 2005, 8:23 pm
I don't consider freefall rides as coasters, however they are close to being them, only bested by log flumes.
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Postby Aero737 on February 10th, 2005, 8:36 pm
No, a curve is a chance in direction/bearing and an incline is a change in pitch.
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Postby twixmix0303 on February 12th, 2005, 12:01 pm
The definitions are from Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

Main Entry: in·cline
Pronunciation: 'in-"klIn
Function: noun
: an inclined plane : GRADE, SLOPE

Main Entry: curve
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): curved; curv·ing
Etymology: Latin curvare, from curvus
intransitive senses : to have or take a turn, change, or deviation from a straight line or plane surface without sharp breaks or angularity

Main Entry: curve
Function: noun
1 a : a line especially when curved : as (1) : the path of a moving point (2) : a line defined by an equation so that the coordinates of its points are functions of a single independent variable or parameter b : the graph of a variable
2 : something curved : as a : a curving line of the human body b plural : PARENTHESIS
3 a : CURVEBALL b : TRICK, DECEPTION
4 : a distribution indicating the relative performance of individuals measured against each other that is used especially in assigning good, medium, or poor grades to usually predetermined proportions of students rather than in assigning grades based on predetermined standards of achievement

An incline is not a change in pitch, but a straight line (like a ramp). On V2, the track curves upwards, it does not incline upwards.
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Postby InsaneNewman on February 12th, 2005, 12:32 pm
twixmix0303 wrote:The definitions are from Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

Main Entry: in·cline
Pronunciation: 'in-"klIn
Function: noun
: an inclined plane : GRADE, SLOPE

Main Entry: curve
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): curved; curv·ing
Etymology: Latin curvare, from curvus
intransitive senses : to have or take a turn, change, or deviation from a straight line or plane surface without sharp breaks or angularity

Main Entry: curve
Function: noun
1 a : a line especially when curved : as (1) : the path of a moving point (2) : a line defined by an equation so that the coordinates of its points are functions of a single independent variable or parameter b : the graph of a variable
2 : something curved : as a : a curving line of the human body b plural : PARENTHESIS
3 a : CURVEBALL b : TRICK, DECEPTION
4 : a distribution indicating the relative performance of individuals measured against each other that is used especially in assigning good, medium, or poor grades to usually predetermined proportions of students rather than in assigning grades based on predetermined standards of achievement

An incline is not a change in pitch, but a straight line (like a ramp). On V2, the track curves upwards, it does not incline upwards.


So, what are you trying to say? V2 isn't a coaster in your book or not?
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Postby Ilovthevu' on February 12th, 2005, 12:37 pm
On dictionary.com, it says usually has steep inclines, and curves. It doesn't necessarly need to have both.

Anyway, this is my definition. Rollercoasters should have wheels, needs brakes (When D Vu' breaks, it needs brakes to stop the train.), a track, needs restraints (could just be a seatbelt), shouldn't be monotone with speed (A train-choo-choo usually doesn't change speed), trains (not just cars like Giant Drop, Condor has swinging cars), inclines, and maybe curves. So something like D Vu' has a track, wheels, a train, changes speed, has an incline, curves, and the rest of the stuff I said.

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