Superman: RoS incident at SFNE

[chiatrain]

There was an incident resulting in death on Superman: Ride of Steel at Six Flags New England this afternoon. Of course, investigations are currently taking place, and more news should come out soon. Thoughts are with the family of the victim.

News on the incident at:
http://www.wfsb.com/Global/story.asp?S=1831812

[SonOfBeast06]

I was just reading about this over on Coasterbuzz. I am interested to see what exactly happened.
What a tragic accident. My thoughts and prayers are with the family of the victim.

[rct2wizard360]

Its a very sad thing to hear. My condolences to the family.

[Great America Guy]

wow thats sad to hear. The whole story does not make to much sense though

[Chitown]

I am really getting uneasy with Intamin in general.

I personally don't see a 55 year old man taking chances on a ride but you never know.

Let's wait for the full investigation to be released before we form opinions.

[Timmy179]

Cnn just reported that "a handicapped man w/ cerebal pulsey fell out of the last turn of the worlds longest, and fastest roller coaster, Superman:steel ride"

[coasterzak]

So sad that once again something like this has happened. We know of 2 different incidents of people getting tossed from Intamins. Does this deserve an in depth investigation of the design and how you can get out with a seatbelt and lapbar?

[rct2wizard360]

Its at CNN.com (heres the link: http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Northeast/05 ... index.html ) Anyways, they said he goes to the park himself and his mother blames THE PARK for letting him on. It was his decision and only his.[/url]

[ShortChilli]

Wow. It's hard to believe that this has happened twice already. That must really stink, going to a park to have fun, and watching someone fly off a roller coaster. That kind of thing should never of happened.

[EVOed8]

Let's see... Intamin Fatalities:

Drop Zone - PGA: Handicapped child ejected from ride
Superman: Ride of Steel - SFDL: Overweight man ejected from ride (Survives)
Parolous Plunge (good god can I not spell) - KBF: Overweight woman ejected from ride
Hydro - god I forget which park...: Girl ejected from ride
Superman: Ride of Steel - SFDL: Overweight man ejected from ride

That's 4 fatalities and 1 injury resulting from people being ejected from Intamin rides in the past 5 years.

Intamin sure has a bad rep now... good lord. The problem isn't the restraints, it is simply who the park is allowing to ride these things. If somebody is overweight and their body is in a ball shape... the seatbelt and lapbar do no good. Nonetheless, this sure is a heartbreak that could've been avoided.

[Jason]

The problem isn't the restraints, it is simply who the park is allowing to ride these things. If somebody is overweight and their body is in a ball shape... the seatbelt and lapbar do no good. Nonetheless, this sure is a heartbreak that could've been avoided.

It's simply who the park is allowing to ride? Well since this is so simple and it seems that you have the answers please explain to us 6.1 Patron Containment of the ASTM restraint regulations and since this is so simple ..please explain:

6.2 Security of Patron Containment System

6.3 Patron Restraints

6.4 Restraint Configuration

How about telling me a little about Class 5 Retraints??? Or since this is so simple please tell us about all the classes of restraints for amusement devices.


So simple isn't it?

[Tomo_kun]

Wow, last night on the news they said it was Superman:Ultimate flight and they where showing footage of it.

[twixmix0303]

Yeah, my friends were saying someone on Superman: UF died, and I had to correct them. But they didn't believe me

[Papas]

Media doesnt know the difference so chances are people wont either.

[SfGaMownz]

More troubles for Intamin, though it seems it wasn't their fault this time. And as some of you said my parents also thought that it was S:UF not S:ROS, so it's obviously pretty common to mix the two up for some people.

[w00dland]

Most people don't know how many Six Flags parks there are in the chain, and how much they clone, and clone, and clone, and....

[twixmix0303]

clone

Yeah, I have to agree with you on that. Some people I know don't even realize that Six Flags is a chain, and Great America is the park.

[EVOed8]

The problem isn't the restraints, it is simply who the park is allowing to ride these things. If somebody is overweight and their body is in a ball shape... the seatbelt and lapbar do no good. Nonetheless, this sure is a heartbreak that could've been avoided.

It's simply who the park is allowing to ride? Well since this is so simple and it seems that you have the answers please explain to us 6.1 Patron Containment of the ASTM restraint regulations and since this is so simple ..please explain:

6.2 Security of Patron Containment System

6.3 Patron Restraints

6.4 Restraint Configuration

How about telling me a little about Class 5 Retraints??? Or since this is so simple please tell us about all the classes of restraints for amusement devices.


So simple isn't it?

What the HELL are you talking about? Does anybody understand this kid? Good lord, all I am saying is if someone is overweight and their body is shaped like a ball, seatbelts and T style lapbars do them no good because they cannot fall on the lap. Park guests and employees both need to be more cautious. Perhaps Intamin restraints should work like B&Ms where they have to be pulled down a certain distance. I don't see people flying out of B&M's T bars once a year... if not twice.

[InsaneNewman]

Unfortunately, the park really cannot turn away overwieght riders unless they are so overweight that riding the ride would be a demonstatable safety risk (same thing as turning away people over a certain height for V2 and DejaVu... safety risk). If you didn't set a "weight restriction" (maximum weight much like maximum height), you would not have standardized enforcement... thus LAWSUITS. Imagine the first park who tries to turn away a fat man from a ride: DISCRIMINATION.

It's a sad fact, but in this day in age of lawsuits all the time, the park is damned if they do, and damned if they don't.

[monopotassium]

please explain:

6.2 Security of Patron Containment System

6.3 Patron Restraints

6.4 Restraint Configuration

So simple isn't it?

What the HELL are you talking about? Does anybody understand this kid? Good lord, all I am saying is if someone is overweight and their body is shaped like a ball, seatbelts and T style lapbars do them no good because they cannot fall on the lap. Park guests and employees both need to be more cautious. Perhaps Intamin restraints should work like B&Ms where they have to be pulled down a certain distance. I don't see people flying out of B&M's T bars once a year... if not twice.

He wants you to explain the pertinent ASTM standards regarding amusement ride restraints. (Presumably, to point out the fact that you do not own a copy of, or have not familiarized yourself with, said standards -- one would hope that as apparent president of "Amusement Safety Organization" he knows.)

ASTM develops standards for many industries, including the amusement industry. These standards are guidelines regarding most all aspects of amusement attraction operations. (For example, barriers around the perimeter of rides should be at least 42" in height and not useable as a ladder to climb over.) As guidelines, ASTM standards carry no legal weight on their own, but may be adopted as legal minimums.

Depending on the level of abstraction, rider ejections are simply a matter of the fact that a person is allowed on the ride. Irregarding the standards behind restraint design, no one could fall out of a ride if they never ride a ride. All things considered, though, it seems that Intamin has failed horribly in performing necessary due diligence regarding the engineering of their amusement structures and safety restraint systems.

[Jason]

First off I'm no kid.

Secondly, read up on the standards for which restraints are subject to. You'll find it within section 6 of the amusement ride regulations standards completed by the ASTM-24 board. There you will find the answers to why different amusement companies implement different restraints.

If you'd like section 6 contact me and I'll email you section 6 standards.

[maneuverman]

What the hell were they thinking by putting a disabled man on the ride.
Especially someone with a limb disorder the guardian of the man and the ride operator should be held responsible. The poor man had no way of stablizing himself in the ride. Even though people with normal operating limbs hold there hands up on rides they still have leg and mid body balance to keep them selfs in the ride.

[mnel18]

Does 6 Flags have any rides by Intamin? Being one of those fatties as called in an earlier post, or a ball in another I'd like to know which rides I should watch out for.

[maneuverman]

Does 6 Flags have any rides by Intamin? Being one of those fatties as called in an earlier post, or a ball in another I'd like to know which rides I should watch out for.

At great america all the rides are pretty safe. The intamin rides we have are V2 and giant drop. Both use harness locks and seat belts to secure its riders. I myself weigh in at 275, and the only have problems getting on v2 cause of my broad shoulders the harness hangs up on my shoulders. Saturday i was on v2 twice, sunday i went to ride and the ride attendant did not want to help me push my chest restraint down to buckle my seat belt and she told me i could not ride. The gentleman that died on the superman ROS in new england was only 200 pounds or so. But, it was not his weight that caused him to fall out it was that he was not able to secure himself during the ride because his limbs dont work properly. After drops turns and twists its no doubt thats why this happened when the ride neared the end on the over banked turn. He was slowly slipping out the whole ride. That is the only way i can think of it, figuring a big guy like me can ride all the rides and keep my hands up, but i still need body balance.
Which that guy on superman did not. So if you are worried about youre weight on rides, worry not and keep riding!!!

[maneuverman]

Sorry my last post came out as a quote.