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Postby SFGAmfreak4life on March 12th, 2006, 10:09 pm
Trailblazer Tony wrote:^That would be cool. I would also like to see the first immelman on a flyer and both tracks come together similar to the vertical loops on Dueling Dragons with it. That would be neat too.


Sorry this is off topic but this post reminds me of something. When S:UF opened either Walter or Claude said that more inversions couldn't be added to a flyer because it would be too intense. Well Tatsu has 2 more inversions than S:UF. So was that an excuse for a lack of inversions on S:UF or was the flyer still in the process of developement. Since Tatsu proves more inversions can be added I see B&M using the immelman in the future. Cedar Point likes to break records so if a flyer ends up on the WWL site I bet it will have an immelman.
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Postby rct2wizard360 on March 12th, 2006, 11:00 pm
kahmooza wrote:"Out with a bang."


Mearly a figure of speech my friend.
Your thinking to hard.

A PowderKeg style ride wouldn't really hit it off with Cedar Point guests.
Top Thrill Dragster isn't that far from the WWL site. This is basically having two rocket coasters in the park.
Don't go all psyco on me here with Magnum and MF. MF was bigger than Magnum, this wouldn't be bigger than Top Thrill.

Excuse me for stating the obvious.

ihauntu2 wrote:The rides name could possibly be "Maverick".


Now assuming that the name Maverick is intended for Cedar Point's use, the name Maverick really dosen't fit for a family style launch coaster like Powder Keg is.

As of right now, theres not even enough information for speculation.
For all we know this is just a really really big flat ride.

We have a possible name. That's about it.

Anyone have any access to overhead shots of these footers?
It can say a lot just by those.
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Postby Danhockey04 on March 13th, 2006, 1:55 am
Personally, I still cant see CF getting a 4-D yet, it still hasnt proved itself being a reliable coaster. Also, I can see them getting a flying coaster because most of the major parks in america are now getting or have a flying coaster. I doubt it would be a floorless because CF already has a floorless coaster in Ohio at Geuga Lake.

I can see a flying coaster in the calibur of Tatsu, but no one has thought of something completely new, how about a launching flying coaster? I mean, it wouldnt be much different, the train is just inverted. Also, to put a ride that White Water was in, it has to be compact cause that land isnt that huge, unless they expand over midways. Still, I say flying coaster, 4-D isnt reliable enough and too much of a risk still, especially the first from B&M, and floorless, there already is one and that would take away from another park in Ohio that they own.
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Postby Cryptkeeper on March 13th, 2006, 2:56 am
Danhockey04 wrote:Personally, I still cant see CF getting a 4-D yet, it still hasnt proved itself being a reliable coaster.


That didn't stop them from buying Wicked Twister or Top Thrill Dragster, did it? :)

I also would guess they aren't getting a 4-D. As always, time will tell.

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Postby coasterinsane on March 13th, 2006, 2:01 pm
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Postby CoasterDave316 on March 13th, 2006, 2:17 pm
Danhockey04 wrote:Also, I can see them getting a flying coaster because most of the major parks in america are now getting or have a flying coaster. I doubt it would be a floorless because CF already has a floorless coaster in Ohio at Geuga Lake.


If you are going to use the theory that Cedar Point won't build something Geauga Lake already has, you have to remember Geauga Lake already has a flying coaster as well.
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Postby Trailblazer Tony on March 13th, 2006, 4:09 pm
coasterinsane wrote:Where did you get that?!


It looks like it is from a newspaper because of the dots in the print and the fact that you can see lettering in the background. Am I right?
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Postby Cryptkeeper on March 14th, 2006, 3:53 pm
Yeppers. The photo came from the Sundusky Register - which happens to be a newspaper in Sandusky, OH.
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Postby Aero737 on March 19th, 2006, 5:28 am
Cedar Fair is just installing footers to make everyone THINK they are building a ride. :wink:
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Postby PKI Foodguy on March 19th, 2006, 11:06 am
Galvan316 wrote:If you look at Cedar Fair's recent rollercoaster installs, they have been B&M whatever's. Which (and im speculating here) makes the notion of a B&M Floorless or Flyer more and more feesible.


Cedar Point's Last three coasters were Intamin's (Top Thrill Dragster '03, Wicket Twister '02, and Millenium Force '00) The last two B&M's they built were Raptor '94 and Mantis '96 But they're definately overdue. I'm pulling for the Dueling Flyers :D
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Postby Galvan on March 19th, 2006, 11:52 am
^ Im talking about Cedar Fair as a company not just Cedar Point.
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Postby Iggy ACE on March 19th, 2006, 9:00 pm
I almost post the same thing to you Galvan till I reread your post and seen Cedar Fair not Point! :D

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Postby kahmooza on March 19th, 2006, 9:25 pm
Found these interesting.

This shows where the tracks got moved to (moved outward). Moved from red line to where blue line is...

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This is an overview of how much space they have. Red shaded area is the "potential site".

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What does this mean? Nothing really. Just more evidence.

I will say that looks like a good B & M foot print.
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Postby rct2wizard360 on March 19th, 2006, 10:18 pm
With the Midway coverage that has...I'd put my money on a flyer right now.


Seems like a similar footprint to A.I.R.

I could see it.
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Postby PKI Foodguy on March 19th, 2006, 11:55 pm
Galvan316 wrote:^ Im talking about Cedar Fair as a company not just Cedar Point.


Oh, my bad, Should have read closer...hehe :wink:
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Postby zjohn1988 on March 21st, 2006, 5:28 pm
Im hoping for a Vekoma :)
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Postby Trailblazer Tony on March 26th, 2006, 11:00 pm
When I looked at that picture of the site, the first thing that popped in my head was Dueling Dragons on that site and I think you guys might be right about a dueling B&M. Wouldn't hurt to think more creatively though.
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Postby FRD714 on May 8th, 2006, 6:43 pm
All I can tell you is that its an Intamin ride. I saw a pic of the track.
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Postby Drkstarboard on May 8th, 2006, 7:35 pm
Maybe another Rocket coaster? Could be. If it is, I hope that it doesn't have any major problems like Kingda Ka is facing right now
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Postby Danhockey04 on May 8th, 2006, 8:29 pm
I doubt they would get another rocket coaster, they have enough problems with TTD, why would they need another one? Intamin flyer?? :)
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Postby zjohn1988 on May 8th, 2006, 9:01 pm
FRD714 wrote:All I can tell you is that its an Intamin ride. I saw a pic of the track.


I can confirm that track has arrived to cp.
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Postby rct2wizard360 on May 8th, 2006, 9:23 pm
Link please?
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Postby FRD714 on May 8th, 2006, 9:35 pm
Link will come as soon as I get it from my friend. Ill try to find it right now. It did look like an Intamin Looper though.
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Postby zjohn1988 on May 8th, 2006, 9:46 pm
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if you want the actual picture of the track partially visible you'll have to search around for it, but it is online.
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Postby Danhockey04 on May 8th, 2006, 9:57 pm
After seeing the layout of supports and the teasers, it has to be an Intamin AG Aquatrax coaster. There is only 1 in existance, the teaser said "that it has only been done once." Also "put 2 and 2 together" the location is over water, they removed a water ride, why not put in a water coaster in its place.

However, the track is unlike that of the only Aquatrax coaster, but it is a LIM coaster, so it could be the launch sections there. Also, it was said that this ride included hydraulics, so that it being a LIM coaster may be in the hands of CP. The name Maverick would fit this coaster because the definition of the word is one that refuses to abide by the dictates of or resists adherence to a group; a dissenter. This fits because it goes away from the traditional CP coasters. This coaster would be rather interesting and there is very credible reasons that it has to be an Intamin AG Aquatrax coaster.

The link to the only existing AquaTrax coaster can be found here. Also, this coaster would require a lot of theming too, to make it a good water coaster, so maybe that is why they started early.

EDIT: After looking at the pictures again, it looks like a 3-rail track and it is a red track. The aquatrax coaster is made of both 2 and 3 rail track, so all signs are pointing to the LIM water coaster, aquatrax.
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