Danhockey04 wrote:I basically see them doing this because they lost their one advertisement slogan. The world's tallest and fastest coaster. They are just finding other things to replace it with, they need other things, so they are starting to make things up.
THANK YOU! Thats the whole point of the thread on both websites to begin with.
Danhockey04 wrote:I basically see them doing this because they lost their one advertisement slogan. The world's tallest and fastest coaster. They are just finding other things to replace it with, they need other things, so they are starting to make things up.
Starting to make things up??? I think not. Now they say Best Vacation
Spot. Ok, let's look at this.
Let's say I wasn't a Six Flags season pass holder and I didn't live in
the Chicago area and I had to choose between Cedar Point and Great
America for vacation. Ok, I would have to choose Cedar Point.
Why?? Biggest Coasters, Bigger Park, More coasters to choose from.
Thus, making Cedar Point the Best Vacation. Come on, Disney World
isn't a better Vacation than Cedar Point, Universal Studio's isn't a
better vacation than Cedar Point, I can go on and on. Out of all
of my vacations that I have taken in my 25 years of living,
my 2 trips to Cedar Point have been some of the best Vacations I've
been on, other than my trip to SFMM which is #1.
So, they arn't making things up when they say Best Vacation on the
Planet, cause it's a great place for a vacation. Great Park, pretty
good Water Park, and you get so much for pretty good price.
Just because you think it's wrong, false or whatever, doesn't make it
wrong.
"The world of politics is filled with uncivilized, snarling, rapacious beasts that, like untrained mutts, raise their legs and urinate on everything we hold dear," - Michael Savage
Best vacation spot does NOT mean it is ONLY for theme parks. It includes all of the vacationing places in the world, and I know many more places in the world that get more people than Cedar Point. They are destinations out there that get millions of people, many more than Cedar Point, and they are more popular too.
Just because you think it is the best vacation spot you have ever been to, doesnt make it the best. I thought overall, CP was not great, it was decent. Most of the coaster there were not even half way decent, the maintance on those things just were bad. It is opinion, and you can never say things off of opinion, you have to have facts to back what you say up with.
Universal Orlando Mechanical Engineer Marathon down, Goofy to go.
Actually, they can say whatever thy like as long as they say they are the best.... everyone understands that unless it's sourced, they may not literally be the best. Where sdvertising gets sticky is when one product says that it's BETTER than another... then you have to prove it.
Best is just a fluff word, don't take it literally.
Newman, when you say "Best (insert whatever here)" your automatically implying that you are BETTER then everyone else at whatever it is your comparing.
yes but as far as advertising goes, the advertisment guidlines dont think of BEST as meaning BETTER. so yes i know BEST means BETTER but as far as advertising goes, its a perfectly legal remark
I agree with Technop. I don't think that Cedar Point is better than
Magic Mountain, but Cedar Point is still one of the Best parks around.
And Cedar Point can say what they want.
And since they did win the 2004 Golden Ticket Award for Best
Amusement Park in the World they have all the rights to use the word
Best for their advertisment.
I guess now you want to complain about their new slogan,
"Best Summer Kick-off of the Planet"???
Go ahead and complain about that one, but before you do, lets just
remember that Great America doesn't do a Fireworks Display when
they open.
"The world of politics is filled with uncivilized, snarling, rapacious beasts that, like untrained mutts, raise their legs and urinate on everything we hold dear," - Michael Savage
Galvan316 wrote:Newman, when you say "Best (insert whatever here)" your automatically implying that you are BETTER then everyone else at whatever it is your comparing.
Right, but not according to FTC Advertising regulations... as I said, "best" does not have to be proved, because it is understood to be fluff, not a genuine comparison. If, however, CedarPoint said they were BETTER than all parks, say, in a 500 mile circumfrence, they would have to have something to back it up.
I know that gramatically, best implies better, but this is not the case in advertsing.
I just got the Cedar Point brochere today in the mail. Like every page in the first 5-6 pages has a slogan.
"Best spin cycle on the planet"
"Best fun on the planet"
"Best coaster thrills on the planet"
"Best kids' adventures on the planet"
"Best ice-skating beagel on the planet"
"Best entertainment on the planet"
I have to just add these, cause I agree 100% with Mike on this one, they are getting very cocky, I hope they dont win best park this time.
Universal Orlando Mechanical Engineer Marathon down, Goofy to go.
You know they will win. Who will beat them. We know there are other parks worthy of the title, but who will get enough fanfare to overthrow the dictators? IOA? Disney? Kennywood?
in my opinion, Cedar Point truly only succeeds when it comes to roller coasters. If that determines the best park, then ok, I guess they are the best. But in other categories they lose.
I have been to CP, and this is just my opinion, but they aren't as good as they say they are. Raptor beat Batman, but Batman has theming. otherwise, I was unimpressed. others may be different, but I enjoy Great America more.
I don't have a detonator; its on a timer.
A countdown timer?
No, a count-up timer. It goes from one to explode.
IMHO, I would take Batman over Raptor anyday. Raptor may be a longer ride, but Batman is fast, and intense. I have ridden in the back car of Raptor, and it does not even come close to the G's experianced on Batmans last car. Don't get me wrong, I very much enjoy our trips to Cedar Point every year, but to me, there is alot more to an amusement park than just throwing down the worlds tallest, fastest coasters. Case in point, I am excited to visit Kennywood in a month, not for riding coasters (though I can't wait to hop on Thunderbolt, and Phantoms Revenge), but for the nastolgia (sp) of Kennywood. I have seen just about every show that has aired that included Kennywood in it, and by that I can see that it has a special type of atmosphere surrounding it. Maybe I am wrong. Their assorment of classic rides, and just the overall feel to the park that has been around for god knows how long, is what I am looking forward to.
Now take a look at Cedar Point. It has been around as long as Kennywood has been. If you were to take a look back at older pictures of cedar Point, you would see a abundence of trees. Look at the park now, and it is nearly all concrete. I am just curious as to what the oldest ride at the park is, not that that has anything to do with what makes an amusement park great.
I would put CP amount my top 5 parks, but not sure about number 1.
I think I agree. I don't know exactly what makes a park good. maybe its memories; maybe its the environment. but I'm certain a good park is not made by plopping down record breaking rides wherever they fit. it almost seems like Cedar Point takes an RCT approach to managing and design: add ride, advertise, sit back and let the money roll in.
I don't have a detonator; its on a timer.
A countdown timer?
No, a count-up timer. It goes from one to explode.
I think people are really in love with Cedar Point for the big rides including MF, Maggie, and TTD. On top of that, they have Wicked Twister which is similiar to V2, and a couple B&Ms which is everyone seems to like.
If SFGAm had 16 rollercoasters, and two more "RB's", it would probably get up to Cedar Point's status. However, I havn't been there so I can't say whether it's really good or bad. The management could be awful in my eyes. The best vacation spot could be a lake for some people. As I said before, best is such a fuzzy word.
I think it's mainly funny how Cedar Fair seems to put so much money into Cedar Point but minimal money into other parks (other than Knotts and kinda Dorney) and people cry about SFI not caring about their smaller parks.
Top 5 wood-5-Goliath 4-Ravine Flyer II 3-Phoenix 2-Voyage 1-El Toro Top 5 Steel- 5-Velocicoaster 4- Maverick 3- Fury 325 2-Steel Vengeance 1-X2 Coaster Count: 444
Go to westcoaster.net and read up on their thoughts recently of Knotts.
Constant one train operation, the park closes due to the THREAT of rain. Things that I think are actually worse than SF. Sure they just got a new ride... Too bad its weak and really boring ( or so I've heard)...
If SFGAm had 16 rollercoasters, and two more "RB's", it would probably get up to Cedar Point's status
Now that would never happen. Six Flags parks always get a bum rap (not counting this website), just head on over to CoasterBuzz.com. All that site is is one big Six Flags bash post after another. No matter what Six Flags does, it is always wrong. When the Deja Vu's were having their problems, the people over at that site were ripping Six Flags for buying three of those coasters before they were even tested right. Well, well, well, what happens the follwing year when TTD goes up (or down for most of the season), those same people were virtually silent. Yeah, it happens, Six Flags don't sit back and wait for other parks to develop and test rides to see if they work, then jump on the band wagon and want one bigger. They TRULY are inovating when it comes to coasters. It may take the coasters a while to work right, they are prototypes remember, but when they do, they are awesome. X, Deja Vu, V2. With the exception of TTD, what inovated coaster has Cedar Point given to the coaster world?
But getting back to SFGaM, our beloved park will never get the respect that it deserves. Give me Viper over Mean Streak anyday. I'll take American Eagle over Blue Streak. Demon outdoes Corkscrew without a fight. I know I may catch heat for this, but Raging Bull over Magnum. V2 over Wicked Twister. Yeah, I would much rather have the break on the back tower instead of the twist. Deja VU (when running ) over Iron Dragon. Rajun Cajun easily over Disaster Transport. Whizzer easily over......wait, I don't think Cedar Point has a family coaster like that. Batman for intensity whips Raptor. Until Iron Wolf gets alittle smoother, Mantis is the better ride there. Is Cedar Point the best park? Whos to say. Its all personal opinion. Great America is not a bad vacation spot either. Gurnee Mills for the shoppers. Zion beach is almost close by. It will have a water park. Hotels right next door. Milwaukee Zoo to the North. The great city of Chicago to the South. Both around a 45 minute drive either way. I think its about time for our park to start getting noticed instead of being viewed as another poorly run Six Flags park, which it is not.
it almost seems like Cedar Point takes an RCT approach to managing and design: add ride, advertise, sit back and let the money roll in.
Sad thing is, it is almost like that.
Sorry about the CoasterBuzz.com rant. Sometimes the CP lovers, and Six Flags bashers over there just p** me off.
the only innovative rides CP has are Corkscrew (tie for first vertical loop) and Maggie (hyper coasters). TTD is a larger version of Xcelerator, MF is a larger version of Maggie.
I don't have a detonator; its on a timer.
A countdown timer?
No, a count-up timer. It goes from one to explode.
well I don't know for sure, but I'd bet that there weren't prototype versions of Corkscrew and Maggie at Arrow HQ before they were installed in the park. the only thing prototype about MF was the cable lift. but that was based off an elevator lift what had been around for a while.
I don't have a detonator; its on a timer.
A countdown timer?
No, a count-up timer. It goes from one to explode.
Sad thing is, it is almost like that.