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Postby FParker185 on February 2nd, 2011, 6:58 pm
That's strange, I found it quite easily in less than a minute

In fact if for nothing other than to prove you wrong, arrogant and lazy, it was a post originally posted by a Agatha Bieber asking : how come six flags doesn't answer our wall posts anymore? i asked how come thomas town isn't on the website anymore?

the very first response is

Six Flags New England: The Thomas Town section of the park will be home to future expansion at Six Flags New England.
Monday at 2:13pm

so there, end of story, crappy park in Mass is loosing a kids area. Happy?
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Postby Goku1910 on February 2nd, 2011, 7:42 pm
okay, okay. I don't know what your problem is, but you don't need to go insulting people just because you couldn't provide a source to back up your statement. All you need to do is provide a link so no one questions your credibility, jeez did you take a speech class in high school? They talk about credibility all the time. :roll:

Does everyone get so frustrated during the off-season? Seriously.

And SFNE isn't really crappy at all, it's just small. So is Six Flags America.
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Postby FParker185 on February 2nd, 2011, 8:11 pm
I am not a proactive person, I take exception to being made to find something for other people that can quite easily be found on their own. High School was a long time ago for me, and no, never took a speech class, however I do recognize the importance of credible sources. I did not make the original statement, nor did I question the original poster, I just wrongly put in my 2 cents, and then was expected to jump through hoops to prove something that's going on in a park I'm thoroughly disinterested in.

And I've been to every current and former Six Flags branded park in the world other than Mexico and New Orleans, SFNE is pretty crappy. Superman was #1 material, Bizarro is still highly respectable, but other than that it's a terribly laid out/designed park with a bunch of mediocre rides similar to SFA and Astroworld.
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Postby Coaster Justin on February 3rd, 2011, 12:53 am
The Park has 2 Problems that Affect Several Six Flags Parks:

1- Being Owned by Premier Parks (That Means Chance Double Inverters, Vekoma SLC, Vekoma Boomerang, Waterparks with No Long Term Plans, Cramming Anything Anywhere, Bad Maintained Wooden Coasters)

2- Expanding into a Six Flags Park. In 2000, they added Catwoman, Flashback, and Superman. Plus, Multiple Flat Rides.


Those 2 Problems Affected Six Flags Europe Parks, SFMex, SFWoAdv, SFGAdv, SFMM, SFAm, SFDK, SFNO and Probably Various Others.
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Postby FParker185 on February 3rd, 2011, 4:16 pm
the Euro parks were beautifully done, easily the best SF parks I've been to park wise. Ride wise there was nothing really to knock your socks off, but those parks were just a joy to be in(Belgium moreso than Holland). They had none of the listed problems. Can't say that for many domestic SF parks which depends on rides to keep you in the park.

SFNE suffers from having the rides package updated just fine with the flagging, but not the infrastructure. The narrow walkways, small bathrooms and older low capacity rides all work against the park.
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Postby BP317 on February 3rd, 2011, 6:52 pm
While I agree with you that SFNE does not have a good ride selection other than Bizarro, in my opinion it's a very nice park compared to most SF parks (especially its closest SF neighbor SFGADV which is a dump). SFNE has something that most SF parks don't have which is character. The entrance area is unique with the bridge and patriotic admissions area leading to the brick walkway where Thunderbolt is and the park has some nice terrain over by the DC area. Although I do think that moreso than any other SF park, SFNE needs a major new coaster because it has really high attendance and only 1 good coaster and 1 mediocre one, the rest are pretty crappy.

In regards to Thomas Town that area in the park always baffled me as to why they put it there, seemed like they wanted to build it and just picked a spot where there was some open land. It's placement was terrible and would explain why it was normally empty, easy to miss while entering the park and really the only time you ever go back in that area is when you leave and by that time people have made up their mind that they are leaving. It was literally before you even get to the parks main walkway. Also brings up the point of what this "future expansion" is because if they put a smaller attraction like TT people will miss it and if its a major attraction it will bottleneck the front of the park.
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Postby BLADE on February 4th, 2011, 7:01 am
^ Great Adventure is a dump??? It's easily the nicest SF park I've been to.

SFNE gets around 1.7 million visitors a year. That's not that high.
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Postby acquaz10 on February 4th, 2011, 11:22 am
BLADE wrote:SFNE gets around 1.7 million visitors a year. That's not that high.

That's extremely high for a park of it's size. It only has one huge, main walkway that you way back and forth on. That branches out into the themed areas like Crack Axel Canyon and DC Adventures.

FParker said the walkways were narrow, I don't know where he was walking but they're really wide, as they'res only ONE main one thats as wide as can be. Only narrow spot I can think of is where they added the two S&S towers onto the existing one and it made that smaller area congested, but that's easily avoidable.

1- Being Owned by Premier Parks (That Means Chance Double Inverters, Vekoma SLC, Vekoma Boomerang, Waterparks with No Long Term Plans, Cramming Anything Anywhere, Bad Maintained Wooden Coasters)

2- Expanding into a Six Flags Park. In 2000, they added Catwoman, Flashback, and Superman. Plus, Multiple Flat Rides.

Agreed with all this. Although the water park does have a long term plan, and could be seeing that with the expansion next year, along with other things. The two flats that were added, which were just clones of existing kiddie rides in the park, were already removed. The train is now in the storage area and I believe it will be returning. So this expansion could involve a few different things.
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Postby BP317 on February 5th, 2011, 1:33 am
^ Great Adventure is a dump??? It's easily the nicest SF park I've been to.

They must have done a major turnaround job. When I went in 05 the park was flat out awful to the point of "get all the credits and get the hell out." It was more tolerable when I went back in 08 and operations were even decent, but cosmetically they still had a long way to go. While it has a great coaster collection (my second favorite only behind SFMM) the carnivalish looking facilities, lack of atmosphere and general neglect in the maintenance of park aesthetics were still big problems when I was there last. Just look at Nitro's queue: a chain link fence, steel frame staircase, and a tin box station isn't exactly classy. The newer areas of the park, Golden Kingdom/Plaza del Carnival, are nice though.
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Postby FParker185 on February 5th, 2011, 3:34 am
I never had a problem with SFGAdv as a park, sure it's not pretty to look at, though some parts are nice, my biggest problem there is the clientele, it's the only park where I've had to sit in the security office twice now detailing a physical assault on a member of my group. Even operations these days fall somewhere between ok and respectable. Worst part is I've only been to the park 4 times. So by that, someone in my groups has been assaulted on exactly 50% of my visits. The worst part is the first time Security told us there is nothing they could do despite us receiving death threats in front of security, and the second time the security guy told us that "we(as in our group) could have taken him on"
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Postby Galvan on February 6th, 2011, 12:20 pm
I completely agree with what Brad and Mike have been saying about SFGAdv. The people clientele are nothing short of classless thugs. Must be a Philly/NYC thing.

I too visited the park in 2005, and felt pretty much that the park is a freaken dump.
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Postby w00dland on February 6th, 2011, 12:39 pm
Went there this Fall on Columbus day. Rides were great, people not so much. And yes, its a Jersey/Philly/NYC thing.
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Postby FParker185 on February 6th, 2011, 11:14 pm
Also I forgot to mention, and for the park it needs to be mentioned, their ride selection is really hard to beat anywhere. If the park had better guests, I think SFGAdv would be ranked much higher in the amusement park world.
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Postby DiveMachine on February 16th, 2011, 6:27 pm
I don't mean to look like the fanboy that just comes here to defend Gadv, but, what do you expect? Warner Leroy(founder) neglected it, bally neglected it, time Warner neglected it and Premeir neglected it. Rome wasn't built in a day ladies in gentlemen. The parks drastically improved, even from 2008. The park finally is starting to get it, but still, I personally think Gam is better, but that's just in my opinion. But trust me, you'll see a park that can compete with CP in 5 years if what I've heard is true
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Postby BP317 on February 21st, 2011, 1:50 pm
In other news, Superman at SFMM has been having soft openings and is going 100mph again for the first time in well over a decade.
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Postby BP317 on March 10th, 2011, 2:33 pm
Six Flags has posted a POV of the new Texas Giant
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Postby FParker185 on March 10th, 2011, 8:07 pm
Sweet!...

I can tell though by the sounds it makes in some of the turns that that thing is going to be eating wheels for breakfast, lunch, dinner and several snacks :)
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