That has been done before, but I heard that Steel Dragon 2000 had issues where the second lift wouldn't catch right, and the train would just stop on the second lift.
I don't see why B&M is scared to try a cable lift. Intamin has been using them since 2000 and they work fine.
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Six Flags Parks 2011 thread
Work fine. Lol.
Millenium Force, David. The cable has snapped on that. Last edited by Ilovthevu' on July 15th, 2010, 8:35 pm, edited 1 time in total.
"I've been staring at the world, waiting. All the trouble and all the pain we're facing. Too much light to be livin' in the dark. Why waste time? We only got one life. Together we can be the CHANGE. So go and let your heart burn bright"
Dragon Mountain at Marineland in Canada has dual chains and they work just fine and have since the 80's. I doubt B&M would want to get that hokey though. Also I think they use different designs for the chain dog and the anti-rollbacks, as that's how it's worked on all the existing ones, halfway up what was the anti rollback catches the second lift chain and the chain dogs from the first lift become the anti rollbacks.
Favorite Wood Coasters: The Voyage, Ravine Flyer II, Thunderhead, Balder
Favorite Steel: Voltron Nevera, Steel Vengeance, Expedition GeForce, Olympia Looping Parks visited: 232, Coasters Ridden: Steel: 894, Wood: 179, Total: 1073
http://themeparkreview.com/forum/viewto ... tart=12750 Now before someone come's and tells me that I'm wrong, I never said that they weren't going to touch Superman 
Bizarro #1...?
Top 5: 1) El Toro. 2) Maverick. 3) Millenium Force. 4) Diamondback. 5) X2.
Coaster Count: 167 (41 Wood, 125 Steel) @Coaster_Cole on Twitter
I've been saying Bizarro since the rumor started but almost everyone shrugged it off. We will see.
What a waste of money. Of all things they could invest in is a one trick pony that was out-dated within 2 years of opening.
If that and Dance Coaster are MM's gifts, then I'm not at all hopeful for our park. We'll probably get a re-theme of V2 or something.
But you have to remember, this is a company straight out of bankruptcy, Adding a Dive Machine is not a good idea. Relocating coasters is.
If STE did change to backwards, and bizzaro, it may count as 2 credits right?
Top 5: 1) El Toro. 2) Maverick. 3) Millenium Force. 4) Diamondback. 5) X2.
Coaster Count: 167 (41 Wood, 125 Steel) @Coaster_Cole on Twitter
It does count as two credits already, but they barely ever operate both sides, if ever.
I disagree. Its one of the biggest rides in the world, and if they re-do the launch system with something more modern not only will it be able to actually go 100mph and near the top of the tower which will make it a much better ride, also it will also be far more economical to operate as the current launch system is way too expensive to run. Also due to numerous problems with its design it cant even run both sides at the same time, something I assume they are going to fix. Plus being marketed as a re-done attraction will bring in attendance. It still needs work on it's capacity and hopefully they can do something about that. I think of all the rides at SFMM STE should have been the first to go, but if they can make it good, but it might even cheaper to fix it and make it a good ride. Either way it's embarresing the way it is now and will make the park a better experience overall.
as long as they are futzing around with STE I personally think they should see what it would take to add a set of Giant Drop tracks on the sides of the main tower. The world first 100 mph coaster, a similar single tracked ride in Australia did that and ended up with the worlds tallest freefall.
Favorite Wood Coasters: The Voyage, Ravine Flyer II, Thunderhead, Balder
Favorite Steel: Voltron Nevera, Steel Vengeance, Expedition GeForce, Olympia Looping Parks visited: 232, Coasters Ridden: Steel: 894, Wood: 179, Total: 1073
This is a continuation from my post here post187580.html#p187580
Here's my updated theory: SFA-Tony Hawk SFOG-Tony Hawk TGE-Mouse from KK GAdv-Flats and Chang STSTL-Hyper or Giga (yes, I said Giga) SFOT-Texas Giant makeover and Hurricane Harbor expansion SFMM-Superman makeover and maybe a strata?, DanceCoaster under a new theme, and flats SFNE-vertical lift coaster from Intamin (think Fahrenheit) SFDK-vertical lift coaster, Intamin SFGAm- Zacspin and HH expansion SFFT-GCI woodie I know some of those were pulled from left field, critique all you want. I don't have a source or anything, this is just based off rumors and speculation.
^ And then the 2012 rumor thread will be which 8 SF parks will close following the major and wild spending that Six Flags made in 2011.
Remember though, parks have been saving for this year for a while now.
Vert lift coasters only cost 12 million, so for two its 24 million. I think the Zacspin is around 7 million. The two Tony Hawks combined is 12 million I'd say. Moving the mouse would only be a couple hundred thousand. Not to sure about the price of Chang and flats, it shouldn't be all that much, but I do know that Great Adventure has ton's and ton's of cash saved up. Its obvious. For STLS, Giga is pushing it, Hyper, not so much. 20 million. Not sure about SFMM or SFOT. SFFT, a GCI costs only 10 million. Also, remember when a company buys multiple coasters from a manufacturer they get deals. I'm just putting that out there. That would be two Gerlestaurs and three-five Intamin's depending on the Giga and Strata. I estimate close to 115 million being spent (when you add the numbers up I give you here I got 73 million but I factored in the strata and possible flats and everything), possibly a little more. Now if I remember correctly, thats what Shapiro said he planned on spending for 2011. Thats not all that bad considering how much the parks may have saved up. They haven't added much since Shapiro came in, he knew he wanted to go big for 2011. Lets see.
And a partridge in a pear tree? Look, I like the idea dont get me wrong, but I want to know where the company is getting all this capital from especially after JUST coming out of bankruptcy.
Besides, all the money that Six Flags Parks makes, goes directly into main corporate and they parks themselves do not "have money saved up". Also and probably more obvious is that dont you think that if a major Giga or Hyper or whatever was planned for SFSTL, you'd hear more then what your saying about it. A project that big would obviously have to start ground/land work and hell, someone puts a wooden stake in the sand at CP and everyone and there mother are going crazy over it. Also, Shapiro's not calling the shots anymore... so whatever Shapiro said back then means squat right now.
There has been ground work at SFSTL. Behind Tidal Wave. Just none of the big sites have been talking about it because none of the members of that site that are covering it, are members of the bigger sites. Plus, I, personally still think most of Shapiro's plans are going through.
And no, the parks do save up money themselves and they also send money directly to corporate. People say it here and I hear it on other sites. Anyways, announcements are coming sooner than we think. I think they're coming right after the conference call on Monday. We'll find out soon enough.
Salemi said we would hear at the end of August. There's your answer.
That was a big pile of WIN! (:
I don't see a zacspin happening at all, sorry. The capacity seems to suck, and for a park like sfgam to add it, with the crowds the have, the lines would be HUGE. It seems more reasonable for a ride like that to go to a park on the scale of Indiana Beach.
And... David was right about no Hurricane Harbor expansion!
I say some new flat ride, or POSSIBLY a high-capacity Eurofighter. <3 Dreaming...
Well, SFStL could always get a Morgan hyper instead of a B&M hyper, but I don't know about the list. It seems like a little too much stuff in one year. The strata for Magic Mountain, I really doubt it. You already have Superman unless you are talking about conversion. I think the Zacspin at SFGAm seems a little fanboyish considering it would be the first in the US. It has 640 capacity, and you know that the capacity is going to be much more pathetic than what they say, but on the flipside, it's cheap, and how much is a flat that SF would buy. They usually don't buy used flats, and instead spend tons of money on them.
"I've been staring at the world, waiting. All the trouble and all the pain we're facing. Too much light to be livin' in the dark. Why waste time? We only got one life. Together we can be the CHANGE. So go and let your heart burn bright"
^You know, I'd love to see another Morgan hyper. It's not going to happen, but I'd love to see it.
I don't care what we get, as long as it's not any coaster with a spinning car. A few specific flats are fine, otherwise no flags. Coasters. Give us coasters.
This is for the announcement for SF 2011 plans includeing the following
SFOG has announced "Dare Devil Dive", a eurofighter that will have a beyond verticle drop. SFStL has announced "SkyScreamer" starflyer SFNE has confirmed a new coaster in DC Adventures SFGadv has announced "Green Lantern" standup roller coaster SFGam has announced "Riptide Bay", a waterpark expansion including a nearly vertical slide, a double sided surf simulator, an activity pool and more SFFT is rennovating it's Fireworks and laser show for 2011 called "Lone Star Spectaular" SFOT is renovating the historic "Texas Giant" roller coaster SFMM is rehabbing the "Superman:The Escape" roller coaster for 2011 and adding the "Mr.Six's Dance coaster" roller coaster in cyclone bay SFDK has confirmed something "colossal" for 2011 I will be editing this as new details come in Last edited by DiveMachine on September 16th, 2010, 6:13 pm, edited 3 times in total.
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