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Postby sixflagsguy5 on February 2nd, 2005, 8:02 pm
The Expedition Everest will be the first ride to use Vekoma's newest track system. Rather than the rails be on the inside of the ties, they will be on the outside. To date Vekoma has only used this system on their smaller roller coasters. This will be the first large scale installation of such a system.

The ride will travel both forwards and backwards.


Animal Kingdom is building Expedition Everest with Vekoma. And they are also using a new track system that has only been used on small roller coasters. I think that having it go forwards and backwards also gives it a bigger chance of being unreliable.

Do you think that it was a mistake to use Vekoma for the project?

And do you think that the ride will be unreliable like Dejavu?
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Postby rct2wizard360 on February 2nd, 2005, 8:18 pm
Didn't Vekoma make Joker's Revenge? Or was that Arrow? Anyways, I think Vekoma has somewhat mastered the ability of making trains go Backwards, and it's probably just gunna be like what they did with ROTM. It's just a new rail system really, not much that they could screw up. They just gotta be careful with the trains. I have to admit, I am really looking forward to this coaster.
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Postby greatamerica2003 on February 2nd, 2005, 8:59 pm
You forget that Vekoma is under the watchful eye of Walt Disney Imagineering, and they aren't building this ride for sale to highest bidder.
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Postby w00dland on February 2nd, 2005, 9:29 pm
When is it supposted to open?
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Postby rct2wizard360 on February 2nd, 2005, 9:46 pm
El 2006. And your right, Imagineers are also working on this, and them being the amazing people they are, they shouldn't have ANY problems with this.
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Postby FParker185 on February 2nd, 2005, 10:09 pm
the new track is similar to the Roller Skater track, but it has been beefed up significantly and widened. Also Vekoma has made more coasters than any other company that travel backwards. (wouldnt be suprised if it's more than all other companies combined, with 49 boomerangs around the world)

Also Disney has used Vekoma before for numerous projects, and thay have always been satisfyed (though as stated before WDI keeps a close eye on things)
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Postby da rcman2001 on February 2nd, 2005, 10:29 pm
rct2wizard360 wrote:Didn't Vekoma make Joker's Revenge? Or was that Arrow? Anyways, I think Vekoma has somewhat mastered the ability of making trains go Backwards, and it's probably just gunna be like what they did with ROTM. It's just a new rail system really, not much that they could screw up. They just gotta be careful with the trains. I have to admit, I am really looking forward to this coaster.


Premier built mummy.

And i dont htink they will have any problem either. The layout was probibly co-designed with WDI to ensure maximum capacity and quicker load/unload times. There will be no problems with this ride, because the main problems that you see on deja vu are an extremely slow load/unload process, 1 train operation, and mainly physics miscalculations, like how the train will run in temperature/wind changes, and with less wieght. This results in the train not having enough inercia to get all the way to the pulley, and it falls backwards, resulting in downtime. Nothing like this could ever happen on E:E and never happened on a disney ride before. Whereas six fligs will open a ride after 2 weeks of testing and itv will experience a lot of downtime in the first operating year, disney tests all of its rides for at least 6 months, sometimes circling the trains through the rides on 24 hour shifts. Disney will have no problems with this thing.
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Postby rct2wizard360 on February 3rd, 2005, 7:16 am
I know premeir built Mummy. But the same backwards concept might me used.
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Postby E.R. Webmaster on February 3rd, 2005, 10:33 pm
Wow, it's been a while since I posted here...lol

Firstly, I believe that Disney made an excellent choice in choosing Vekoma. They are an excellent company with very innovative and creative ideas. Other companies, such as Intamin, only go for height or speed.

This is a unique project which makes it perfect for Vekoma. Although I am not positive why they chose this type of track system, I do kknow that if they were to do it, it would work.

Some of you have mentioned it becoming as unreliable as Deja Vu? You guys do know that Six Flags was at fault for that whole Deja Vu crap right? Vekoma was rushed into completing a new design that hadn't been adequately(sp?) tested. After the first three installations, Six Flags realized their mistake. After Vekoma was allowed more time for Twister at WBMW Madrid, they installed the ride and it opened without any problems what-so-ever. It has, to this day, run smoothly. (besides the normal problems that occur to coasters in general)

To sum this up, Vekoma was an excellent choice for this project and I believe that we can except a great outcome!
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Postby sixflagsguy5 on February 3rd, 2005, 10:43 pm
I have never been on Mummy. How do they have the trains change from forwards to backwards, while keeping a full circuit ride?
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Postby w00dland on February 4th, 2005, 5:55 pm
Turn tables in the middle of the ride.
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Postby DejaVu The Ride on February 5th, 2005, 8:44 pm
w00dland wrote:When is it supposted to open?
2006 Although I have heard that there will be soft openings in late 2005.(If construction stays on target.)
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Postby Drkstarboard on February 5th, 2005, 11:27 pm
Deja Vu IS reliable.
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Postby GamRCFreak on February 7th, 2005, 4:42 pm
^^^^I agree

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Postby w00dland on February 7th, 2005, 6:52 pm
Hmm, when was the last time you've seen it operate then later in the day break down for more than 15 minutes? A lot of the time when it's not open it's because they don't have the people to operate it.
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Postby The Beast on February 8th, 2005, 7:15 pm
Are you talking about Deja Vu? How can there not be enough people for one of the parks biggest roller coasters? Doesn't that seem, just a bit stupid?
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Postby sixflagsguy5 on February 8th, 2005, 8:14 pm
Dejavu is doing pretty good. Dejavu at SFoG (according to multiple web sites) is almost always broken. RCDB says to check with the park to see if it's open, because it is usually SBNO for long periods of time.
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Postby w00dland on February 8th, 2005, 10:06 pm
There were staffing problems all the time at Six Flags this last season. I had personally heard DV operators saying that they would have to close the rides because they needed the extra ops to run a 3rd train on Raging Bull. And I know it does sound stupid, but this ride needs more ops than other coasters in the park to operate.
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Postby DejaVu The Ride on February 8th, 2005, 10:40 pm
Yeah, that happened a lot last year. It was also closed weekdays in early May for staffing issues.
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Postby m-force 4 ever on March 30th, 2005, 2:22 am
wow this is amazingly off topic. anyway pretty much all of disney coasters are built by vekoma so I'm sure with Disney's watchful (yet evil) eye it will turn out alright for dianey.
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Postby Mr. D.T. on March 30th, 2005, 10:00 am
Who knows, this coaster may turn out good after all. DV did, despite its breakdowns.

I read an article on Theme Park Insider (themeparkinsider.com) which critiqued the good news on Disneyland's revival after years of neglect. The new Buzz Lightyear ride is receiving good reviews, the Sleeping Beauty castle looks better, and the branches on the trees are trimmed. This is only a handful of improvements in the park. For more information, log on to themeparkinsider.com.

All we can do now is wait and see how this coaster turns out.
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