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HUGE Disneyland Pirates and Haunted Mansion Changes!!!!!

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Postby greatamerica2003 on January 20th, 2005, 6:22 pm
First of all this topic includes some spoilers. So if you don't want to know then don't read.

This has been confirmed through press releases from Disney. During Madame Leota's crystal ball scene in the Haunted Mansion attraction, rather than the ball setting on the table, if will float through the air, but use the same projection and audio as before.

The Pirates of the Carribean ride at Walt Disney World will be sidelined for an extensive rehab to add a new final scene AND the addition of a Captain Jack Sparrow anamatronic figure! Other than that the ride will remain unchaged.

And the following from Jim Hill Media explains a far-fetched but apparently true rumor from WDI about a "nightime only" overlay for the Disneyland Pirates of the Carribean. You must read this to believe it!!!

http://www.jimhillmedia.com/mb/articles ... hp?ID=1263
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Postby LAFFfan4lyfe on January 30th, 2005, 12:56 pm
Too bad they can't do something like the thing mentioned in the article at Disney World, and too bad the thing can't be done in Disney World by March....
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Postby greatamerica2003 on January 30th, 2005, 7:03 pm
LAFFfan4lyfe wrote:Too bad they can't do something like the thing mentioned in the article at Disney World, and too bad the thing can't be done in Disney World by March....


You never know, if it works good at DL, then anything is possible.

Remember that the Florida Magic Kingdom didn't include a Pirates of the Carribean on opening day in 1971. It didn't open until a few years later.
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Postby SFGAMkid on January 30th, 2005, 7:18 pm
I think that the change is much needed for all Disney Parks. Yes, pirates is good, but any facelift to an attraction is improvement.

As long as they stress the factor of the scare issue well enough. I think that's one of the reasons why the orignal Haunted Mansion failed. They didn't stress the issue of a scary ride, and they ended up toning it down.

Plus the fact that Disney will only transform this change at night will make sure that children/families can ride the original arrtaction during the day hours.

I only hope that this change will come to WDW as well. I say if it goes over well in one Disney Park, it will go over well in the others!
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Postby Ilovthevu' on February 1st, 2005, 3:01 pm
I think that would be a big mistake. Believe me when I was there a year ago, and it was almost 11 p.m. (rides after dark/ I don't remember the name/magical something), kids were all over the place. So, why would a park that is mostly meant for kids try to scare them away?

Sure, the park also has other types of people, but Walt (as he said in that video at Disney-Studios/MGM) really wanted a place in which families can enjoy because there were none around. I especially think that the Magic Kingdom at WDW, and Disneyland are the parks more aimed at that, and probably should be kept that way.

I guess the thing is that a park has to determine who it's appeal is for. I guess that Disney-" world/land/etc. " wants a broader structure of people to be in there parks. That's why Disney..... has rides such as Terror of Tower, (Stars Tours-who is that meant for), Rockin' Roller Coaster, Mission Space, and Test Track. I guess it's the same dilemna for SF to face (who counts more).

The funny thing is that SF never wanted to be like Disney, but yet it's focus is getting more to family (believe it or not). Now, Disney is trying to do the opposite.
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Postby Socoaster6 on February 1st, 2005, 4:01 pm
Ilovthevu' wrote:I think that would be a big mistake. Believe me when I was there a year ago, and it was almost 11 p.m. (rides after dark/ I don't remember the name/magical something), kids were all over the place. So, why would a park that is mostly meant for kids try to scare them away?

Sure, the park also has other types of people, but Walt (as he said in that video at Disney-Studios/MGM) really wanted a place in which families can enjoy because there were none around. I especially think that the Magic Kingdom at WDW, and Disneyland are the parks more aimed at that, and probably should be kept that way.

I guess the thing is that a park has to determine who it's appeal is for. I guess that Disney-" world/land/etc. " wants a broader structure of people to be in there parks. That's why Disney..... has rides such as Terror of Tower, (Stars Tours-who is that meant for), Rockin' Roller Coaster, Mission Space, and Test Track. I guess it's the same dilemna for SF to face (who counts more).

The funny thing is that SF never wanted to be like Disney, but yet it's focus is getting more to family (believe it or not). Now, Disney is trying to do the opposite.


Walt wanted a park that families could enjoy, right? Families don't just include little children. Remember, Disney also has the job to please preteens/teenagers. MGM does a great job at doing that, but the other parks have to adapt to that somewhat. Walt wanted a park that the whole family could enjoy, when most non-enthusiest teens think about Walt Disney World/Disneyland they think "Oh, that is such a baby place, only little kids go there." They need to add or adjust entertainment so that it will grab the teen's attention. And don't think the rides are losing their theme, because there not. Disney has always looked into the future and new technology, it's a marvel Imagineers got the crystal ball to hover around the room in the Haunted Mansion. And the new Pirates theming, that would be amazing if they get to do that, it adds to the theming. Disney is known all around the world, by everyone. Walt would be proud.
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Postby greatamerica2003 on February 1st, 2005, 7:05 pm
Ilovthevu' wrote:The funny thing is that SF never wanted to be like Disney, but yet it's focus is getting more to family (believe it or not). Now, Disney is trying to do the opposite.


I disagree

Angus Wynne Jr, developer of the first Six Flags park in Texas in 1961 (and subsequent others) wanted very much for his parks to be like Disneyland. He wanted them to appeal to families, but include thrilling attractions at the same time as well. And for his parks to be accessible to a larger segment of the country.

Current management since the Premier takeover in the late 90's has all but killed that dream with cost-cutting measures, but no good dream ever dies.
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