I'm looking for responses from people who've ridden both MF and SROS. I've only been to SFGam and Cedar Point, not the SF where Superman is located. I'm just trying to understand why so many web sites rate Superman as a better coaster. It seems to me that both coasters are Intamins with the same exact trains, the only difference being that MF is much taller. Does that not equate to a better ride? Is there something different about Superman's layout?
Also, I don't understand why Raging Bull gets overlooked on many 'top coaster lists' when I see Nitro and Apollo's Chariot listed all the time. Aren't RB, Nitro, and Apollo's Chariot basically the same B&M models in terms of height and simply have different track layouts?
I just wanted to know from you more well-traveled coaster freaks if there is an East-Coast-Bias to all these ratings .
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
in my opinion a layout is what makes the coaster right? Not the trains or how high it goes.
I have ridden Apollo's Chariot and it was an ok ride, but the trimmed it like mad and it was just a steel version of a wooden out and back coaster. Nitro is a big brother of Apollo's Chariot (in my opinion) and Raging Bull is just very very unique.
Top 5 wood-5-Goliath 4-Ravine Flyer II 3-Phoenix 2-Voyage 1-El Toro Top 5 Steel- 5-Velocicoaster 4- Maverick 3- Fury 325 2-Steel Vengeance 1-X2 Coaster Count: 444
iowacoasterguy13 wrote:Also, I don't understand why Raging Bull gets overlooked on many 'top coaster lists' when I see Nitro and Apollo's Chariot listed all the time. Aren't RB, Nitro, and Apollo's Chariot basically the same B&M models in terms of height and simply have different track layouts?
Yeah, true. I never see our coasters on the top 10 count down. But it would be nice to get recignition once in a while, but if you think, it keeps a lot of people not coming and visiting the park if you think about it.
iowacoasterguy13 wrote:I'm looking for responses from people who've ridden both MF and SROS. I've only been to SFGam and Cedar Point, not the SF where Superman is located. I'm just trying to understand why so many web sites rate Superman as a better coaster. It seems to me that both coasters are Intamins with the same exact trains, the only difference being that MF is much taller. Does that not equate to a better ride? Is there something different about Superman's layout?
Then how can B:TR be better than Alpengiest or Montu, after all, they're bigger right?
Answer is simple, better ride. I highly doubt SoB is a lot of coaster enthusiasts favorite wood coaster.
Well, it also depends on which S:ROS you're referring to... There is 3 of them. SFDL, SFA, and probably the one you're thinking of, SFNE.
Layout is definitely more important than speed and height. I suppose too it's all personal opinion. Some may be more into the speed and height, whereas others are looking for more of a unique ride with a good layout and nice inversions.
Wow no one has been on both here? Well i have so ill tell ya:
SROS SFNE (the higher rated one) and MF are my #1 and #2 steel coasters respectively. However, SROS is WAY above MF and I dont see any coaster topping SROS anytime soon (though i hope it happens). SROS has in my opinion almost the most perfect layout you could ask for, a combination of out and back and twister. The hills on it are ridiculous, the airtime is SICK like no other coaster you have been on...i have never been on another coaster that throws you with so much ejector airtime. Go check out rcdb.com and look up the ride, youll see the differences. MF for me is all about the killer first drop and the consistent speed..MF is NOT about airtime...if i looked at it that way I wouldnt like it so much. You get 4 spots of float on MF at the most, whereas on SROS you get 7-8 ejector air spots. SROS also has sweet ass tunnels with neon red lights and fog in them...cant wait to ride it again in a few months!
Ah yes - someone else that has done both. S:RoS SFNE is amazing! (This was before the train modifications) Yes, S:RoS is WAY above MF. MF I believe is rated so high just because it broke the height barrier. If you are an airtime whore like me, MF is a nice teasing. There are about 2 decent airtime hills which don't even compare to S:RoS. So perfectly stated above - S:RoS has the most perfect layout. A nice steep drop into a tunnel with sweet neon lights and fog, out into an intense airtime hill and then into an overbank. I was so surprised I had never heard of this turn. It's pretty sweet. It's out and back in the first half of the ride so you get to come back on about 4 airtime hills. They are incredible. I timed it with my watch one ride and there is over 16 secs of solid AIRTIME. Then it is by the station and dives and noses around, doing a nice figure 8, still giving pops of airtime when it comes out of the helices. Then, it goes into another steamy light tunnel and into the final sequence. 3 nice ejector hills... they are slowed a bit, but it helps elongate the airtime. S:RoS has awesome theming too going up to the ride, not to say MF doesn't... but other than the drop on MF - I feel like the entire layout is a huge waste. There isn't anything special about the tunnels and there are just 2 really big turns, kind of like SOB, wasted track in helices. If you want speed, MF is your #1. If you want airtime and an out of this world ride - S:RoS is your number one with nothing even nearly behind. I think some people overlook it because the ride is at SFNE and the operations there aren't very good and the rides are kind of crappy. But... S:RoS shows up for its game. I'm hoping the new restraints (which I tryed at SFDL and hated but didn't ruin the ride) don't take away too much of the airtime. And the spiel for S:RoS ... I like it... "Welcome to Superman Ride of Steel - *speeds up* one of the Tallest and Fastest roller coasters in the world!!!!!" I'll be looking forward to my trip there in mid-August!
SROS and MF are both excellent rides, but I've had it with conventional rides. Give me Top Thrill Dragster or give me death, launching at 120 mph is a rush like nothing that MF, SROS, RB, or any other roller coaster has ever handed to me. All of you must go to Cedar Point and wait as long as necessary, TTD is pure euphoria.
In a year or two, TTD wont be big news. Some other park will coem out with some MONSTEROUS coaster, not the tallest, but the fasttest. And no thats not a rumor, and its not a statement. But is most likely to happen.
I agree...TTD just seems like a gimmick to me. What would really be nice is a wooden coaster longer than the Beast, uh near Indiana.
Seriously, wooden coasters are about to drop off the market completely until someone builds a huge, not tall, woody that reminds everyone how good they can be.
Ehh... don't try to make that woody too tall or too fast or even with inversions - that's obvsiously where things start to go wrong *cough* SOB *cough*.
I have family in CT so I have gone to SFNE up in MA a few times. SROS is a really good ride. It's kind of like RB with no breaks in the middle of the ride. I am going to CP for the first time Monday. I will write my view on MF here when I get back.
I'm back from CP. I did get to ride TTD. MF is much faster than Superman. Superman gives you more airtime and is a longer ride for the reason that you do not go as fast. I would say that I like MF better, but Superman is one of my favorite coasters.
Ive been on the sros at six flags darien lake. And it was about the same as mellenium force in my opinion, because they both just have a few big hills with air time, but sros has that 540 helex, and mf has some turns through the trees, so overall there the same.
How in the world is MF and SROS the same? They are completely different and their track layouts arent even close! Also, if you are trying to compare SROS and SFNE vs MF, you can not say "ive been on SROS at SFDL"..its a much different (and less thrilling in my opinion) layout than the one at SFNE. Going fast does not make a ride better....look at STE
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