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Should B&M make a replica of Iron Wolf?

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Postby G-forcejunky2005 on July 17th, 2004, 12:57 am
If batman the ride(s) are so popular , y not make a copy of their very first coaster? it sounds like a good idea.. would any one agree? :D
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Postby B&M Floorless Wanter on July 17th, 2004, 12:59 am
isent their first coaster Iron Wolf?
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Postby G-forcejunky2005 on July 17th, 2004, 1:00 am
yes... it is!
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Postby Virtua Tennis on July 17th, 2004, 1:02 am
They made smaller standups like Vortex @ Great America and Carowinds that are very similar to Iron Wolf, unfortunatley they're not very popular and I don't see any more standups being made..

And they're first independant coaster is Iron Wolf, however they made very similar rides like ShockWave at Drayton Manor when they were with Intamin so Iron Wolf wasn't really anything new.
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Postby B&M Floorless Wanter on July 17th, 2004, 1:05 am
thats what i thought :)
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Postby Ilovthevu' on July 17th, 2004, 11:45 am
Huh??? I'm confused. Too many people hate IW. I don't, but it still doesn't mean they will be making an exact replica. Georgia Scorcher at SFOG is very similiar to IW, but it is less rough.
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Postby NoUseForAName on July 17th, 2004, 12:21 pm
Scorcher has B&M trains. IW has Intamin Trains. Plus the transitions on IW are worse than Scorcher's.
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Postby SfGaMownz on July 17th, 2004, 3:10 pm
Well lets see B:TR was extremely popular when it opened in 1992 being one of a kind so they gave one to every park imaginable because it was such a hit. I don't know how popular Iron Wolf was when it came out but I'm guessing it was nothing compare to B:TR's 2.5/3 hour waits opening year.
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Postby rct2wizard360 on July 17th, 2004, 4:28 pm
Iron Wolf, Intamin or B&M? Well in my opinion, it was made when Intamin and B&M were a team. I think B&M wouldnt make a clone of this. It only has a LONG line on crowded days, but it will still have a line. All in all, I dont see this being a clone ever.
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Postby planea380 on July 17th, 2004, 4:38 pm
Iron Wolf was B&M first independent ride. All intamin did was built the trains.
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Postby Virtua Tennis on July 17th, 2004, 7:06 pm
...which will probably be replaced with better ones soon enough anyway.
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Postby planea380 on July 17th, 2004, 7:11 pm
The problem you have with getting new trains, is that Iron Wolf track is not the standard B&M track Guage. If we were going to get new trains they would be special ordered from B&M or new ones from Intamin.
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Postby CoasterDave316 on July 17th, 2004, 7:57 pm
G-forcejunky2005 wrote:y not make a copy of their very first coaster? it sounds like a good idea..


Why not build a stand up coaster period. There are more Batman: The Ride clones (12) that have been built then there are B&M Stand Up coasters (7), and the last B&M Stand up coaster was built in 1999. Most parks obviously don't want a stand up coaster as no parks have bought one in several years.
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Postby The Beast on July 17th, 2004, 10:39 pm
This sort of thing about stand ups was discussed at SFN quite a bit. Basically it seems that stand ups are just a gimmick, and not much else. I know a lot of people who dont think standing up is very comfortable. I think parks would rather just buy a floorless.
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Postby SfGaMownz on July 18th, 2004, 1:18 am
I like the forces on your feet on Stand Up's its really cool I think. Chang is really intense on the feet.
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Postby SFGAmfreak4life on July 18th, 2004, 11:03 am
I really don't see any more stand ups being built. I think the only stand ups that are popular are Riddlers Revenge and and Mantis. You can easily say that those are only popular because of the inversions and height. Parks want whats popular so it will bring in the money and standups isnt where the money is.
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Postby G-forcejunky2005 on July 18th, 2004, 1:53 pm
ok people ........... if you think that b&m stand ups are not popular, take a look at their hyper coasters.... they have a total count of 4!!!!!!!! :?
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Postby SFGA 11 on July 18th, 2004, 1:59 pm
Hyper coasters are expensive and only major parks can afford them. They made there first one in '99. And by that time most parks that could afford them had Morgan or another company (well atleast Cedar fair) make them one. Then Giovani started to make one and two major parks with lots of money( SFMM and SFoT) bought them.
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Postby planea380 on July 18th, 2004, 2:01 pm
B&M Speed coasters are the most expensive model out their by B&M the trains alone are worth a ton of money.

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Postby G-forcejunky2005 on July 18th, 2004, 2:08 pm
a custom morgan hyper coaster would cost just as much as a B&M hyper coaster .... depending on how much steel is involved in the making of the coaster.
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Postby planea380 on July 18th, 2004, 2:10 pm
B&M's cost a ton more than Morgan's.

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Postby SFGA 11 on July 18th, 2004, 2:11 pm
My point was that there isnt alot of parks that can afford a hyper coaster. So you are not going to be seeing alot of B&M hypers being built.
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Postby coasterzak on July 18th, 2004, 4:23 pm
Just look, if SFKK can have a stand-up, then they can't be too expensive compared to parks such as SFGAm, SFGAdv, or BGW that are huge with many guests and lots of income.
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