Most Complicated Restraints

[tribar]

I know it's an awkward topic but what coaster (or flat) has the most complicated restraints to deal with. Also post a picture of the restraints if you can find one.

For me Vekoma Flying Dutchmans and TOGO Standups



TOGO Standup
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Flying Dutchman

[Cole]

Demons hand things are pretty weird

[Ilovthevu']

This is a hard question. I think you nailed the 2 big ones, but I would say wooden coasters with seatbelts plus of course the lapbar. It's not always easy to find the seatbelt, and when you do it's such a tight space to buckle it.

I know your talking about restraints, but one of the worst seating configurations is the Technical Park Street Fighter. It's hard to get on the ride, it's hard to get off the ride, and you are very close (too close in my opinion) to the next person. It's a great ride though, but the seating is bad in my opinion. http://www.technicalpark.com/gallery/st ... ution3.jpg

[tribar]

Doesn't X2 have complicated restraints. Also i heard the new Mach Tower at BGW is bad too. Something about the seats being really small and no room for your arms

And lets not forget this.

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/743c7cd5a7/rollercoaster-safety-with-patrick-warburton?playlist=featured_videos

[BP317]

The old Perilious Plunge restraints before it was converted to conventional OTSR. What was up with those? It took over 5 minutes to load a boat. I understand that it had an accident with the t-bars, but see no reason they needed to go several years of terrible capacity with NASCAR restraints before finally switching to a normal over the shoulder setup.

Also, Premier launched coasters that have lapbars are very bizarre. They are deep narrow bucket seats with a large/restrictive lapbar (these rides originally had OTSR's then the trains were remade for lapbars), and has a seatbelt that goes over the side and buckles down by your knee. The first one I went on, Chiller at GADV, I sat there and couldnt figure out how the hell the seatbelt worked and the ride op had to do it for me.

[tribar]

^Do you have a good picture of either of these

[BP317]

[Ilovthevu']

I'll explain that Premier one a little more just in case you don't understand. The part you plug into is actually on the lapbar (It's a metal piece attached to it.), and the other end comes on the side of you (on the left if you are sitting in the left seat), or the right (if you are sitting in the right seat.), and you plug it in, into the lapbar. This is really done most likely to stop people really overweight from riding. It's a precautionary thing too though.

He's right though. That is pretty complicated. Also, there are these orange circular things near the floor of the train in which you put your feet under. They do this probably because these rides do have inversions, and they used to have harnesses.

[popball]

flying coasters have complicated restraints.

[FParker185]

the seatbelts on premeir lapbars are there to make sure the lap bar is in a safe position, and they operate just like any seat belt found in any car. Insert tab in buckle til it clicks, to remove push button until it releases.

And for me, maybe I'm just above average in this department, but the Vekoma Flyer restraint is definately very complicated then the Togo standup is a little complicated while at the same time being simple, it looks more intimidating than it is the first time someone gets in, but all the rest are just basic common sense restraints. X2 you wear like a backpack, and all the rest mentioned are simple, B&M flyers go on like a run of the mill OTSR, Tech Park street Fighter is a common OTSR. Demon's land loops prevent fatalities when you have dumber than dirt rid ops like Lightning Loops had. If seat belts on woodies confuse people, I really hope none of them ever drive a car or fly in a plane, cause that's really going to fly way way over their head.

[Ilovthevu']

^For Technical Park, you misread what I said. The restraints aren't the problem, but the seating is the problem in my opinion, and for a wooden coaster, the seatbelt isn't that easy to put it on in such a tight space. It's not in my opinion that people are dumb that they don't know how to put on a seatbelt. Really, rides like Viper and American Eagle weren't even designed for seatbelts, but they added them on later.

[FParker185]

I figured everything would be about the restraints, didn't read to closely (very recent event in my life has pretty much destroyed my patience), but yeah, the curved gondolas on the street fighter are a bit of a nuisance banging everyone knees together and having little shoulder space, but that's kind of a hallmark of most European rides.

As for PTC trains, Viper and Eagle actually were designed to have seat belts, the park removed Eagles seat belts a long time ago and they removed Vipers seatbelts even before it's opening day. That's one of the reasons PTC/Tom Rebbie really doesn't care for SFGAm. PTC considers and has always considered the seat belt to be the primary restraint with the lap bar is a secondary backup restraint, so in essence SFGAm ran both of their woodies for years and years without a primary restraint. If someone had flown out during that time, the park would have been in more trouble than I think even they could fathom.

Most seat belts though have both ends are long enough to be pretty easily buckled unless you are morbidly obese or just have a fat butt. I'm not the smallest guy around, and have never had an issue on all but one or 2 rides. There are a few parks that keep the outboard ends of the belts shorter in order to preserve the finish of the exterior of the train, so if a seat belt is left unbuckled it doesn't fly outside of the car and bang against the side. Today though most parks have automotive style seat belt buckles which makes it way easier vs the older marine style buckles with the huge flap and short but wide buckle. OR the Cick-Fix style buckle (Intamin)

[BP317]

As for PTC trains, Viper and Eagle actually were designed to have seat belts, the park removed Eagles seat belts a long time ago and they removed Vipers seatbelts even before it's opening day. That's one of the reasons PTC/Tom Rebbie really doesn't care for SFGAm. PTC considers and has always considered the seat belt to be the primary restraint with the lap bar is a secondary backup restraint, so in essence SFGAm ran both of their woodies for years and years without a primary restraint. If someone had flown out during that time, the park would have been in more trouble than I think even they could fathom.

Then seatbelts magically appear on Eagle/Viper right after that ACEr flew out of Raven.

[FParker185]

on all PTC's at all parks, everywhere that had also removed them. (except Knoebels for some reason)