SFGAmWorld.com
Untitled Document
Park Information
Latest News
Great America
Roller Coasters
Rides
Hurricane Harbor
Water Slides
Water Attractions
Advertisement

SFMM in serious trouble with wildfires.

Talk about anything that has to do with the amusement park industry here.
Postby Chitown on October 23rd, 2007, 12:09 pm
I knew the park was in danger but after seeing these pics, WOW. :shock:

Very close.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/orteaser/1 ... otostream/
I finally retired the Sarah Palin signature because she is now 100% irrelevant.
Chitown

User avatar
 
Posts: 2563
Joined: December 31st, 2002, 12:27 am
Location: Gotham City

Postby cycamps on October 23rd, 2007, 12:53 pm
That'd be bad if the park got burnt... :shock:
cycamps

User avatar
 
Posts: 1711
Joined: April 12th, 2007, 2:34 pm
Location: Sterling, IL

Postby superflybri on October 23rd, 2007, 1:59 pm
As much as I would hate to see the park in flames.. I'm more worried about the houses near or in the pathway of this beast!

Maybe a little Deja Vu is needed to tame this beast. Would the coasters just start to melt in these cases or anyone know what happens?

Thoughts and prayers go out to the Californians. Be safe! And Fire Fighters, thank you for helping them!
superflybri

User avatar
 
Posts: 209
Joined: September 23rd, 2007, 2:56 pm

Postby Danhockey04 on October 23rd, 2007, 2:05 pm
Under extreme heat and pressure, there can be some deformation, which would weaken the supports and make the coasters non-operable. Then they would have to replace the damaged parts of the ride. It can be a bad situation if the fire rolls through that park, it could cost SFI millions of dollars to fix all the rides, let alone the operating systems that could get damaged. The ride's central control system could be damaged in the fire, hydrolic fluid could start up in flames make the situation even worse. If the fire runs through the park, it may not only hurt the park, but the areas around it, by sending gases into the air of melting plastics, hydrolic fluid and molten steel (which reeks).
Universal Orlando Mechanical Engineer
Marathon down, Goofy to go.
Danhockey04

User avatar
 
Posts: 2367
Joined: May 17th, 2004, 8:45 pm
Location: Celebration, FL

Postby RagingBullFan on October 23rd, 2007, 3:23 pm
Danhockey04 wrote:Under extreme heat and pressure, there can be some deformation, which would weaken the supports and make the coasters non-operable. Then they would have to replace the damaged parts of the ride. It can be a bad situation if the fire rolls through that park, it could cost SFI millions of dollars to fix all the rides, let alone the operating systems that could get damaged. The ride's central control system could be damaged in the fire, hydrolic fluid could start up in flames make the situation even worse. If the fire runs through the park, it may not only hurt the park, but the areas around it, by sending gases into the air of melting plastics, hydrolic fluid and molten steel (which reeks).


Just to clear things up a bit....

Due to the heat deformation is a real concern, what I'd be more concerned with though is the fire performing a heat treatment to the steel itself. I'd suspect most of the steel has been heat treated to allow it some flex to discourage brittle failure. Now if you have a fire that runs through and firefighters spraying cold water onto the heated steel you will change the tempering. This could lead to serious problems unless the steel is actually tested. It may look the same, but its mechanical properties are definitely not.

That and the hydraulic fluid will not catch fire. Hydraulic fluid is only flammable in a fine particle state, i.e. spray. If you just try to light a barrel of hydraulic on fire (assuming it is vented, otherwise it is a bomb...) it will not ignite.
Licensed Mechanical Engineer
Image
RagingBullFan
Technical Administrator

User avatar
 
Posts: 1478
Images: 1
Joined: December 27th, 2002, 11:52 am

Postby Director_Guy on October 23rd, 2007, 3:30 pm
SFMM has been nearly on fire for years... I dont think there's much to worry about....
Every jumbled pile of person has a thinking part that wonders what the part that isn't thinking, isn't thinking of.
Director_Guy

User avatar
 
Posts: 1694
Joined: October 4th, 2004, 8:51 am
Location: Sherman Oaks, California

Postby Galvan on October 23rd, 2007, 4:08 pm
A couple of things

Take a look at the one picture that has Sky Tower in the frame. Look at the Flag atop of ST, Its blowing straight out which means the wind has to be blowing at least 35 MPH.

And some of the shots I saw, it looks like the fireline is going away to the east of the southern part of the park.
Image
Galvan
Moderator

User avatar
 
Posts: 3639
Joined: June 30th, 2003, 1:23 am
Location: Montgomery,IL

Postby coasterkid94 on October 23rd, 2007, 5:57 pm
That picture was really frightening. I do feel concerned for the park if it gets damaged from the fires, but I am much more concerned for the people who are now homeless. I heard on CNN that over 300,000 people had to evacuate their homes due to the fires.

I don't know too much about the geography of California, but is Disneyland close to any of the fires? I know for sure that the fires are affecting the San Diego area, and my dad should be traveling there either this week or next week. By the time of his trip, I don't know if there will really be too much left of San Diego.
coasterkid94

User avatar
 
Posts: 285
Joined: November 12th, 2005, 8:18 am

Postby rct2wizard360 on October 23rd, 2007, 11:25 pm
Theres a video on youtube if you wanna look it up that was uploaded yesterday.

There is LOADS of smoke just pouring into the park right now.
But just smoke.
This video was also taken 90 degrees to the left of where the posted one was.

Scary.
rct2wizard360

User avatar
 
Posts: 2996
Joined: December 4th, 2003, 11:23 pm
Location: Mason, Ohio

Postby zjohn1988 on October 24th, 2007, 10:03 am
Wow...not good
http://themeparkcritic.com/scripts/profile/ViewProfile.asp?ViewID=2909
A furious storm once roared `cross the sea, catching ships in its path, helpless to flee. Instead of a certain and watery doom, the winds swept them here to Typhoon Lagoon!

*****Are you ready to Rockit?!*****
zjohn1988

User avatar
 
Posts: 2076
Joined: June 8th, 2003, 10:56 am
Location: 595 N. Stage Lane LBV FL

Postby LAFFfan4lyfe on October 24th, 2007, 2:59 pm
oh no!

I didn't even think about that when I heard aobut the fires. I hope everything will be okay.
2006 visits: 20
2007 visits: 17
2008 visits: 3
LAFFfan4lyfe

User avatar
 
Posts: 1871
Joined: October 17th, 2004, 10:32 pm
Location: waiting to ride the next big rollercoaster.

Postby Galvan on October 24th, 2007, 3:09 pm
All the videos i have seen and there where plenty, Was the fires where moving parralel to the park.

SFMM's website doesnt even state if the parks operations will be suspended this weekend. So Im pretty sure the park is safe.
Image
Galvan
Moderator

User avatar
 
Posts: 3639
Joined: June 30th, 2003, 1:23 am
Location: Montgomery,IL

Postby CoasterDave316 on October 24th, 2007, 5:34 pm
It says on SFMM's site: Park not affected by fires....we are OPEN for Fright Fest, Oct. 26-31 ... Don't Miss It!
Go Bulls!
Dave - SFGAmWorld Webmaster
CoasterDave316
Webmaster/Site Admin

User avatar
 
Posts: 2713
Joined: December 27th, 2002, 10:32 am

Postby Chitown on October 24th, 2007, 7:46 pm
Today, they are fine.

Yesterday, they were at risk. I would have to think they have smoke and soot cleanup in the park to do since the smoke was going right over.
I finally retired the Sarah Palin signature because she is now 100% irrelevant.
Chitown

User avatar
 
Posts: 2563
Joined: December 31st, 2002, 12:27 am
Location: Gotham City

Postby cycamps on October 24th, 2007, 8:06 pm
Wouldn't that be a sight if you were riding Colossus and you see the track on the other side of the coaster on fire...
cycamps

User avatar
 
Posts: 1711
Joined: April 12th, 2007, 2:34 pm
Location: Sterling, IL

Postby cycamps on October 24th, 2007, 8:13 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zygvJTy3c_k
Here's a link to a video about fire near Magic Mountain.
cycamps

User avatar
 
Posts: 1711
Joined: April 12th, 2007, 2:34 pm
Location: Sterling, IL

Postby zjohn1988 on October 24th, 2007, 11:00 pm
CoasterDave316 wrote:It says on SFMM's site: Park not affected by fires....we are OPEN for Fright Fest, Oct. 26-31 ... Don't Miss It!


Has the park closed at all from the fires?
http://themeparkcritic.com/scripts/profile/ViewProfile.asp?ViewID=2909
A furious storm once roared `cross the sea, catching ships in its path, helpless to flee. Instead of a certain and watery doom, the winds swept them here to Typhoon Lagoon!

*****Are you ready to Rockit?!*****
zjohn1988

User avatar
 
Posts: 2076
Joined: June 8th, 2003, 10:56 am
Location: 595 N. Stage Lane LBV FL

Postby Chitown on October 25th, 2007, 2:40 am
They are on a weekend schedule so when the fires were getting close, the park was closed for weekday operations anyway.

They state that on their website as to not make people think the park is in danger and that it will open this weekend. They want people to show up.
I finally retired the Sarah Palin signature because she is now 100% irrelevant.
Chitown

User avatar
 
Posts: 2563
Joined: December 31st, 2002, 12:27 am
Location: Gotham City

Postby Galvan on October 25th, 2007, 8:16 am
I bet it would be empty this weekend. Anyone want to catch a flight to LA? heh
Image
Galvan
Moderator

User avatar
 
Posts: 3639
Joined: June 30th, 2003, 1:23 am
Location: Montgomery,IL

Postby Trailblazer Tony on October 27th, 2007, 9:18 pm
Man, that's a close call for this theme park, can you imagine the Travel Channel specials on this place if it DID burn down? Geez...

As others have stated, the prayers are going out to the families, not the theme park...sorry Magic Mountain, i'm obsessed with coasters, but not enough to put them over people... :wink:
RIP: Trailblazer and Deja Vu...heck, even Alien Encounter :(

Fangs Up Cobra Style!!!

Chitown's finest resident here!!!!!
Trailblazer Tony

User avatar
 
Posts: 3022
Joined: August 29th, 2005, 2:50 pm
Location: you should know....


Return to General Coaster Talk

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 8 guests

Privacy Policy About Us Copyright Disclaimer E-Mail SFGAmWorld
COPYRIGHT - SFGAmWorld.com
All content and images on this site are Copyright 2001 - SFGAmWorld.com and may not be used without permission.
This is NOT the official site of Six Flags Great America, SFGAmWorld.com is not affilated or endorsed by Six Flags Great America.
SFGAmWorld.com does not make any guarantee on the accuracy of the information on this website and cannot be held responsible by the use of this information.
SIX FLAGS and all related indicia are trademarks of Six Flags Theme Parks Inc. ®, TM and © . The official Six Flags site can be found at SixFlags.com
BATMAN, SUPERMAN and all related characters and elements are trademarks of © DC Comics.
LOONEY TUNES and all related characters and elements are trademarks of and © Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc.©
The Wiggles Pty Ltd. SCOOBY-DOO and all related characters and elements are trademarks of and © Hanna-Barbera.