As most of you have probably heard, a plane (Air France plane) crashed in Toronto on Tuesday, August 2nd. The plane is said to have been struck by lightning because of a fierce storm that was in the area. The most amazing thing about this is, no one died!!!
It think that that's amazing that no one died in the plane crash. What do you think?
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Plane Crashes in Toronto. No one dies!!!!
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It's green. It's blue. It's all over you! Enjoy your ride on Déjà Vu
It is amazing that they didn't die and I think God (I'm a Christian) for that.
I'm very amazed. Great job to the flight crew for their quick actions and for their great work on getting people out of there very quickly! As for what caused it, I'm not really going to speculate. I do expect that we'll hear information very soon on what happened. "The world of politics is filled with uncivilized, snarling, rapacious beasts that, like untrained mutts, raise their legs and urinate on everything we hold dear," - Michael Savage
It figures a plane crashes the week before I fly to Texas....I hate flying.
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It was a French Airbus..... carrying 297 passengers and 12 crew, which was an Air France Flight from Paris. This is the first time this Airbus model has crashed in its 13 years of commercial service, so I don't think you have to worry about flying. It was attributed to severe weather.
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Sorry, but this is pretty in accurate. This is definatly not the first Airbus to crash in 13 years of service: -November 12, 2001: Airbus A300 Crashed in New York -November 20, 2000: Airbus A300 Crashed in Miami -August 23, 2000: Airbus A320 Crashed in Manama, Bahrain -January 30, 2000: Airbus 310 Crashed in Abidjan, Cote D'ivoire This is just 4 of 43 Airbus incidences in the past 5 years. These 4 are the only Fatal Crashes in the past 5 years. According to FAA.com, Airbus has not had a fatal crash in about 4 years. Please check your facts before stating things. Overall, Dave, Don't be nervous. The chances of a fatal accident is 0.023 per 100,000 departures. I would be nervous flying an Airbus, only cause I don't trust them, but if you're flying in a Boeing or CRJ don't worry about it. You have a extremly low chance of crashing. "The world of politics is filled with uncivilized, snarling, rapacious beasts that, like untrained mutts, raise their legs and urinate on everything we hold dear," - Michael Savage
I think she meant the Airbut A340.
Well excuse me..... I am accurate...I just didnt put the Airbus number down. have a frickin cow ok! SORRY! dont you have anything better to do than prove people wrong?
Jetliner burns after skidding off runway in Toronto Aircraft catches fire; Tried to land in thunderstorm; Minor injuries reported By Rob Gillies The Associated Press Published August 2, 2005, 8:32 PM CDT TORONTO -- A jetliner carrying 309 people skidded off a runway while landing in a thunderstorm today, sliding into a ravine and breaking into pieces, but remarkably everyone aboard survived by jumping to safety in the moments before the plane burst into flames. Twenty-four people suffered minor injuries in the 4:03 p.m. crash landing of Air France Flight 358 from Paris -- the first time an Airbus A340 had crashed in its 13 years of commercial service. The plane, carrying 297 passengers and 12 crew, overran the runway by 200 yards at Toronto's Pearson International Airport, said Steve Shaw, a vice president of the Greater Toronto Airport Authority. go here for the rest of the story http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/bal-crash0802,1,4358602.story
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Next time say exactly, just not say "This is the first time an Airbus has crashed in its 13 years of commercial service" because you imply that
this is the first Airbus to ever crash. "The world of politics is filled with uncivilized, snarling, rapacious beasts that, like untrained mutts, raise their legs and urinate on everything we hold dear," - Michael Savage
oh shut up you anal retentive beeoch!
its still to frickin early for my brain to function completely. Give me a break! I can't help that I make mistakes once in a while ((Im being playful dont take this the wrong way!))
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No one died because i was there and i saved the day.
Super-Timmy Around the world and back
They think it got struck by lightning before it landed, and thats what caused it to skid off the runway. If thats the case Air Bus has a ton of explaining to do. Considering the fact that the day before a BOEING 737 aircraft was struck by lighting, and landed fine.
As for me, I have flowen on the scrap heap the french call their Airbus. Thier take offs and landings are dodgey (I have flowen on them multiple times, and the pilots vary every time, of course) I would rather be on a nice 787-900 or 800 than on those flaming metal death traps. Airbus uses the statisic of FATEL meaning some one has died. But if you tally the number of accidents the realy A340's have had you will find its more than one. I feel that airbus's safty stat sheet is very dodgey considering more of their aircraft go down due to machinical faliur complared to pilot error. Lets hope their A380 will prove a little safer. But I'm not holding my breath, damn thing got stress fractures just form taxing (Hunk of Junk). I could bash this misrible excuse for a plane company all day, but I wont. FLY BOEING! ITS THE WAY TO GO! Last edited by JGSixFlags on August 4th, 2005, 12:46 pm, edited 1 time in total.
.... I was just playing around in case you didnt notice that msg at the bottom of that post
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LOL, i jsut read that and deleted if from my post. sry. lol
its ok :-d Im not one to get too upset over some stuff someone says to me.
Besides...I admitted I made a mistake :-d
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The lighting issue. Airplanes handle lighting differently every time. There are tons of variables involved like the type of lighting bolt, location of the strike, altitude of the jet, avionics on, etc. I once heard a figure that on average every jet in the Country is struck at least once in it's lifetime.
Airplanes acually respond well to lighting strikes. Not much occurs. NASA and USAF pilots would fly into thunderstorms and intentionally get struck to see the results. Positive lighting, a new discovery, is much higher voltage and much more destructive. It's believed that a positive lighting bolt struck a DeltaII rocket causing it to loose control and self destruct. If it was a positive lighting bolt, then that's a possibility. However a lighting strike wouldnt have anything to do with the airplane overrunning the runway. I still believe it was a microburst.
you mean lightening right? not lighting
how can you tell what kind of lightening a storm is producing?
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I think it's lighting. Google corrects me to Lightning when I search Lightening.
Lighting strikes are easily told apart by lightning detection systems. Without electronics it's hard to tell, but Positive lighting is much more powerful than normal lightning. It's often ahead of the storm. It's cloud to ground (although not all cloud to ground lightning is positive). It accompanies many of the most powerful thunderstorms (supercells). It's often fatal if hit. 
Positive Lighting can form 10's of miles ahead of thunderstorms. http://img324.imageshack.us/img324/6650 ... ell1ki.jpg That is a positive strike and formed many miles ahead of the storm. Scared the photographer s...less. Edit: fixed link Last edited by Aero737 on August 4th, 2005, 1:27 pm, edited 3 times in total.
aero, how much heat would something like that have given off. It's huge!
Thats because for electricity to be of any dangerious effect the aircraft must be "be-earthed" since the aircraft isnt touching the ground the electricity has no where to travel. most damage and dangers of electricity come from when it leaves one object and enters another. As for your thoery on a microburst, its a feasible one. But dont they normally cause aircraft to Undershoot the runway? And wouldnt we be able to see the efects of the microburst? They're about as strong as a tornado if not stronger. The strong down draft must of displaced objects. I'm prorobly an Idiot to try and reason with you considering you know way more about the weather and aviation than me. lol oh well... But i do agree with you on the fact that i could very well of been a microburst. I just havnt see much stuff about the actuall event. CNN and the media is hopless in giving you the info you want these days. EDIT: Just say that pic a few posts back. HOLY COW!
light·ning ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ltnng)
n. An abrupt, discontinuous natural electric discharge in the atmosphere. The visible flash of light accompanying such a discharge. got the spelling from dictionary.com so we were both wrong lol
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Based on this radar loop at the time of the accident, it appears that a thunderstorm to the north blew up and then collapsed. This leads me to believe there was a microburst (or even a macroburst) in the vicinity of the airport. If a microburst was say 3 miles behind the aircraft on final, then the winds would be hitting the plane as tail winds. This would cause loss of lift and a force the pilot increase in power. Microburst are shor lived and can push the jet all over. With the engines throwing more thrust than rated on landing it could have made it difficult to land. Heck, even if the burst was 3 miles upwind. Once down the winds could suddenly increase generating enough lift to make the brakes innefective and revere thrust just cant stop a jet of that weight in enough time. Also the slickened runways probably played a major factor.
I see ya now. Thanks for explaning it. I love that pic!
Aero737 - Are micro and macro bursts often associated or noted with sudden and accute changes in air pressure?
It's the most fun in the park when your laughing in the dark.
haha.. Aero you are so smart! Thank you for the weather lesson
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Jason, i told you this the day of the crash, i highly doubt it would be windshear.... Because had it been windshear, the plane would have slammed into the ground and more then likely broke up on the runway...
instead i think it was in fact a Lightning strike, that most likely crippled the controls and casued the crash. Pilot error might have been a factor as well. 
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