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Postby rctfan1556 on June 4th, 2005, 7:21 am
The NWS actully put up a area of high risk for severe storms(This is very rare.) which could mean a tornado outbreak but from what it looks like though, the main risks are destructive hail and destructive winds. That is mainly due to some of the storms going on at this time.

So my main reason for posting this topic is, I want to know if anyone will be going storm chasing? If any one does, please bring back pics and video if you can. 2nd reason, I know Aero will post here and his weather posts are always very interesting.
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Postby Aero737 on June 4th, 2005, 7:36 am
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D Best Thread of the Year!

Sooo tempted, if anything breaks in Northern Illinois, I will be on it. Trust me I WANTED to head to SW Iowa and wait out those. Man, values are all coming together indicating tornado outbreak with strong long tracked tornadoes.

Lets just say CAPE values >4000 and Helicity >160 on the latest NAM run. EHI values around 4 or 5 which suggests extreme potential for long tracked tornadoes.

Tommrow, thats another thing. It looks like the same system will set up over us with marginally worse indicies, but still looks like it could get harry around here. I'll post updates in this thread.

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EHI (Energry-Helicy Indicie)
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SBCAPE Values (Convective Avaible Potential Energy = Energy in air measured in Joules per Kilogram of air)
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Lifted Index. Difference between parcel lapse rate and the enviromental lapse rate. Measure of instability

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^KICA Thermodynamic sounding, where I would position myself If I was really out there (I participate in a virtual storm chase contest (can win me a GPS :o )) Beautiful sounding right there.

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Postby CoasterDude12-2 on June 4th, 2005, 10:38 am
Is the NOAA centered in Norman,OK because of the 318mph tornado that hit it it 1999?
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Postby Aero737 on June 4th, 2005, 2:45 pm
(on the road, compleatly missing all these storms. :( ) The SPC is located in Norman Oklahoma. The record May 3rd 99 tornado went just to the north (Moore and Bridge Creek area was leveled) A NSSL (National Severe Storms Labritory) doppler on wheel's recorded the highest wind speed ever on earth with the 318mph reading in that tornado. It was the last F5 to hit the United States. NOAA is acually based out of Washington DC.
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Postby sixflagsguy5 on June 4th, 2005, 3:11 pm
A perfect day for SFGAM!!
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Postby CoasterDude12-2 on June 4th, 2005, 3:23 pm
About an hour ago, a storm ripped through Bolingbrook with lots of lightning and caused local flooding. More looks like it's on the way.
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Postby rctfan1556 on June 4th, 2005, 8:36 pm
Tomarrow definetly looks like it will be very bad for us. Destructive winds, very large hail, flooding rains(Most likely flash flood rains.) , and the threat for tornadoes does exist. Atm, there is only a slight risk for us but my guess is we will be upgraded to a moderate risk(MAYBE high risk if everything comes together PERFECTLY but it is very unlikely.) if everything comes together. So be on the look out tomarrow.

We got a downpour at SFGAm today with thunder and lighting! I also got to see a couple of lighting strikes while working! :D

Aero: I knew you would post! Very interesting post as always!
1 question; what does that KICA Thermodynamic sounding model mean? Can you like explain that? I pretty much understand the rest of those models but that sounding has me baffeled.
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Postby Binks Drake on June 4th, 2005, 8:51 pm
And Absolutly nothing has hit Lake County. Big surprise. Has anyone else noticed how storms seem to split around lake County...
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Postby rctfan1556 on June 4th, 2005, 8:56 pm
Binks Drake wrote:And Absolutly nothing has hit Lake County. Big surprise. Has anyone else noticed how storms seem to split around lake County...

Yeah, definetly. When I was at work they announced a Severe T-Storm Warning was in effect(If I was at home I could have looked at the new Polygonal Warning System and see who was actully in the warning. Btw, the PWS is awesome. I love how it shows who is actully at the greatest risk for a severe cell instead of putting the whole county under a warning and most of us get nothing.) for our county and nothing came, then a Severe T-Storm Watch and that went away after an hour. I'm pretty confident tomarrow will be very active and will actully get some impressive storms so I guess for now it isn't a big loss.

Edit: Btw, for those of you who don't know what the PWS is then take a look here: PWS
It is freakin amazing. I use it all the time.
As you can see it uses polygons to outline areas at greatest risk for the warning on which ever cell(By cell I mean storm.) prompted the warning. So instead of putting the whole county under warning like you commonely see on T.V. or the internet, this outlines a specific area. Belive me, once you see this baby in action, you'll never go back to the old warning system.
I'm sure Aero will agree with me on this one.

Edit 2: Sorry for the huge link.
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Postby twixmix0303 on June 5th, 2005, 12:02 am
I thought Spanish was hard, I better learn "meteorologist".
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Postby Aero737 on June 5th, 2005, 1:14 am
0245 PM TSTM WND DMG OAK LAWN 41.72N 87.75W
06/04/2005 COOK IL TRAINED SPOTTER

BLOWING WOOD PLANKS FROM A BUILDING UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN
THE 5200 BLOCK OF WEST 95TH ST. CAUSED DAMAGE AND BROKEN
WINDOWS TO GARAGES IN THE AREA. TREE LIMBS WERE KNOCKED
DOWN INTO THE STREETS.


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Postby Binks Drake on June 5th, 2005, 10:59 am
Seriously I live on the Lake in Northern Lake County and it didn't rain once here! GRRR! :evil:
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Postby rctfan1556 on June 5th, 2005, 12:58 pm
Here's the current set up:
We are still in a slight risk area but we are on the edge of a moderate risk area. So far the main threats are large hail and strong winds but a few tornadoes are also possible but atm the most likely areas to see those are Michigan into parts of the Ohio Valley.
Currently there is a line of showers and storms over central IL moving northeast with more numorous storms on the southern edge of the band.
Atm, I'm not to sure about us getting anything exciting(Ecpesially if that band comes through our area and how long it lasts.) Will just have to wait and see.

EDIT: Time: 3:26pm
Well, all the action is to our east in Michigan and Indiana, also it is to our north up in north Wisconsin and central east minisotta(sp?). From what it looks like now, my guess is were not going to get much. I could be wrong but with the current cloud cover and the storms to our east helping to stabalize the atmosphere(Not sure how much but it is to a certain extent.), I'm just doubtful were going to get much except a couple of showers or a maybe a t-storm if were lucky.
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Postby CoasterDave316 on June 5th, 2005, 3:51 pm
aero737 wrote:
0245 PM TSTM WND DMG OAK LAWN 41.72N 87.75W
06/04/2005 COOK IL TRAINED SPOTTER

BLOWING WOOD PLANKS FROM A BUILDING UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN
THE 5200 BLOCK OF WEST 95TH ST. CAUSED DAMAGE AND BROKEN
WINDOWS TO GARAGES IN THE AREA. TREE LIMBS WERE KNOCKED
DOWN INTO THE STREETS.


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Mike reported it. He claims he saw it from his work :roll:
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Postby w00dland on June 5th, 2005, 5:22 pm
Saw some pretty cool lightning last night around 11 with no thunder. Figured it was just some heat lightning but then it just started hailing like mad.

Yeah, that's about all I know about weather.
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Postby Timmy179 on June 5th, 2005, 9:16 pm
I was playing baseball (or sitting on hte bench in a cast watching my team play) and a trampolin came out of nowhere and hit our 3rd basemen. He got 11 stiches.


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Postby CoasterDave316 on June 5th, 2005, 9:18 pm
^ Now that is hillarious. That's one of those injuries...where you are concerned for the person who is laying there bleeding, but you have a hard time keeping a straight face cause what happened was so funny. Know what I mean...or am I just crewl?

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Postby Timmy179 on June 5th, 2005, 9:30 pm
It was hard not to laugh, but yet he was laughing to as blood dripped down his face.
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Postby w00dland on June 5th, 2005, 11:00 pm
Why in god's name were you guys still playing if there were winds high enough to throw a trampoline over a baseball fence?
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Postby Timmy179 on June 5th, 2005, 11:01 pm
It was one of those extremly strong gusts right before it starts to rain. it was ok, then suddenly the wind picked up out of no where.
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Postby rct2wizard360 on June 5th, 2005, 11:08 pm
Considering I thought it was going to be a great weekend to maybe get some damage on tape, turned out pretty boring over here.
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Postby rctfan1556 on June 8th, 2005, 8:25 pm
Well once again we got screwed over. I got up this morning and what'd ya know the SPC is forcasting severe storms for our area, just like on Sunday, and what happens? They somehow go south of us causing us to get no more then some clouds and a couple of raindrops which is someway stabalizes our atmosphere. Heck at this moment were still in a Severe T-Storm Watch when no severe weather is going to come anyway.
Now, am I trying to encure the rath of god here? No. I just want to see some good storms besides your ordinary garden type storms.

Sorry for my little rant but this is getting really annoying.
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Postby Aero737 on June 8th, 2005, 8:33 pm
Shear profiles wern't strong enough, the storms were moving about 10 mph for a bit and they were missing one of the fundimental ingrediants for thunderstorm development.

Lift
Instability
Moisture
Exhaust

We had no exaust, so the storms would just rain right through the updraft causing em to fizzle out.
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Postby mschulz5 on June 8th, 2005, 8:40 pm
I think I speak for 80% of the people on this board when i ask, "What did you just say?" :)
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Postby rctfan1556 on June 8th, 2005, 8:50 pm
aero737 wrote:Shear profiles wern't strong enough, the storms were moving about 10 mph for a bit and they were missing one of the fundimental ingrediants for thunderstorm development.

Lift
Instability
Moisture
Exhaust

We had no exaust, so the storms would just rain right through the updraft causing em to fizzle out.

No strong shear is: :(

mschulz5: Basicly, we had nothing to keep the storms alive.

Edit: Oh well...there are more chances for storms this week but I got a feeling we arn't going to get much, if anything.
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