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Tournament of Champions FINAL MATCH-UP Voyage vs El Toro

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#1 Voyage vs. #4 El Toro

Poll ended at November 1st, 2010, 10:32 pm

Voyage
6
40%
El Toro
9
60%
 
Total votes : 15

Postby Galvan on October 27th, 2010, 10:32 pm
64 started, 2 Remain in the first ever Roller Coaster Tournament of Champions and now its time for the FINAL MATCH-UP!

Voting ENDS 1030 PM Monday November 1st


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Location: Holiday World, Santa Claus Indiana
On-ride Video: Voyage on-ride video
Manufacturer: The Gravity Group
Track layout: Out and Back
Height: 163 ft (50 m)
Drop: 154 ft (47 m)
Length: 6,442 ft (1,964 m)
Max speed: 67.4 mph (108.5 km/h)
Inversions: 0
Duration: 2:45
Tournament Rank: #1 in Mid Bracket
Tournament History: #16 Demon, #9 Evel Knievel, #5 Hades, #11 American Eagle, #1 X2


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Location: Six Flags Great Adventure, Jackson New Jersey
On-ride Video: El Toro On-ride video from CoasterForce.net
Manufacturer: Intamin AG
Track layout: Hybrid: Out and Back and Twister
Height: 181 ft (55 m)
Drop: 176 ft (54 m)
Max speed: 70 mph (110 km/h)
Inversions: 0
Duration: 1:35
Tournament Rank: #4 in East Bracket
Tournament History: #13 Phoenix, #12 Boulderdash, #1 Millennium Force, #11 Nitro, #3 Goliath (SFOG)
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Postby Cole on October 28th, 2010, 7:08 am
After watching both the POVs again, I have NO idea
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Postby Cole on October 28th, 2010, 5:44 pm
Oh and by the way, who would have thought that two WOODEN COASTERS would be in the final?
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Postby BLADE on October 29th, 2010, 4:53 pm
Rode both this year and El Toro is definitely better. Might be closer next year with the new trains on Voyage, but the 2010 PTC Voyage does not deserve to win. Trust me on this one if you haven't ridden both. Vote for Toro! It needs help and is worthy of winning.
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Postby FParker185 on October 30th, 2010, 3:41 am
At HWN Voyage was running in prime form, completely deserving of the #1 spot. Later in the year at the GOCC Fall FreakOut it was running pretty slow, but still awesome.
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Postby BLADE on October 30th, 2010, 10:43 am
I rode Voyage one day before HWN and one of the trains felt like it had a square wheel! I rode both trains from different seats on a weekday. I got to ride Toro this month on weekday with 10 minute waits and Toro was clearly better to me. I'll somehow find a way to make it back to HW next year to ride it with the new trains. Right now I see the Voyage more with untapped potential, because I don't feel I got it's best day yet. Smooth with airtime beats just airtime for me.......
My point is Voyage has more potential, but El Toro is the better ride right now. If there was nothing wrong with Voyage and it is that good, then why is Holiday World spending money to put new trains on it?
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Postby FParker185 on October 30th, 2010, 5:53 pm
The PTCs being quite heavy are tearing the track to pieces, they are tired of having to retrack 1000-1500 feet of track annually on such a new ride. HW has always had a close working relationship with CCI and now Gravity Group, so it's rest assured that they are getting a spectacular bargain on the trains to be the park that was supposed to test them out. If they finally make it on, the park has admitted they have plans to add them to Legend and Raven in due time for the same reasons if they are successful on Voyage.
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Postby monsterfan99 on October 31st, 2010, 12:28 am
^Heavy is an understatement. The fact the trains alone have moved the track feet in some places says something. Hopefully the new trains work and people stop buying PTC's.
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Postby Cole on November 1st, 2010, 5:35 pm
Looks like Toros got it..
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Postby Galvan on November 1st, 2010, 10:58 pm
El Toro is the 2010 Roller Coaster Tournament CHAMPION!

Thank you all for voting and participating!!
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Postby BLADE on November 2nd, 2010, 5:10 pm
^Sweet! A very deserving champion. Thanks for putting this together Galvan. It's been fun.
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Postby Galvan on November 4th, 2010, 10:30 am
Thank you,

I think we will make this an annual thing. "October Coaster Madness"
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Postby Cole on November 4th, 2010, 2:44 pm
Hey, maybe this can go international next time? ;)
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Postby FParker185 on November 4th, 2010, 6:32 pm
Other than myself and a very limited number of others, I don't think anyone here has ridden any international coasters.
Favorite Wood Coasters: The Voyage, Ravine Flyer II, Thunderhead, Balder
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Postby Galvan on November 5th, 2010, 11:36 am
I was thinking about international rides, but the tournament as it was, was hard enough. I wanted to make this as much like the NCAA tournament as possible, What I will do is ask for suggestions for US rides that you would like to see next time around.



My goal was to have great head to head match ups, and some of the later rounds, especially Sweet 16 and later did just that.
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Postby FParker185 on November 5th, 2010, 7:36 pm
should do like KI's Midget wrestling, and have a tournament with nothing but kiddie and junior coasters :)
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