I was just thinking about this the last time I was going to Great America that in a way I think tollways hurt businesses. For the tollway going to Great America, there are places along the way, but they never get mentioned as getting off the tollway, and visiting them. For instance, you go in Indiana, and it says there's a Burger King, Arby's (whatever else restaurants), a few hotels, and what not on each exit, but you go on a tollway, and they don't tell you diddly squat. The only thing they have is that one plaza up above, and if you don't like any of that stuff too bad. On top of that, people don't want to get off the tollway until their destination because you are going to have to pay more tolls.
You can basically ignore anyplace on the tollway because you don't want to keep on paying tolls. To me, it definitely hurts local businesses. Sure, they might get the small percentage of money from the tolls, but if people aren't spending money off the tollway to local cities, they are losing a lot of money. Someone might want to spend $40 at Olive Garden, but the IL tollway is only getting a few dollars for the tollway.
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^Ok, and i thought i was stupid... How do tollways help me getting to my destination faster?!?! I have waited in a car at a toll, for more than 15 minutes before... Please tell me how that helped me getting to SF sooner....
^It's because of no traffic lights, and the speed you go on a regular road compared to a tollway. Toll booths can be slow at times though.
The point I was making though is that as you said tollways are a way to get to a destination faster, and you only spend at the destination. All those places that you possibly could be passing by (but don't know about it) that are NOT your destination aren't going to get diddly squat in money, and how does it matter in the grand scheme of things? Well, all those businesses you pass up that you don't know you pass up give a bunch of taxes to the government of course. And even if there is a business you pass up that you know about, you still might not stop because you don't want to pay more tolls.
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Ohhh i see now. Well for a family maybie on the highway for a while who just want to stop in for a quick bite to eat, that is prob. there main money maker. But other than that. Yes, i dont see how those buisnesses could thrive with money.
Flying_Potato_Man wrote:^Ok, and i thought i was stupid... How do tollways help me getting to my destination faster?!?! I have waited in a car at a toll, for more than 15 minutes before... Please tell me how that helped me getting to SF sooner....
Because the tollyways were built to get people from where they are to the city (and major city to major city in the midwest/northeast) without having to take small highways or residential roads. The toll was originally put in place to pay for the cost of building (they sold the idea to the public by saying the toll would be removed when construction was paid for), however now the tolls have become a revenue generator for the state
Ilovthevu' wrote: For instance, you go in Indiana, and it says there's a Burger King, Arby's (whatever else restaurants), a few hotels, and what not on each exit,
They have those signs in rural Wisconsin Illionis and Indiana but i agree it is hurting buinesses. I have this handy book that has exits of the the tollways and what not that tells you everthing that's at each of the exits. PS the Six Flags exit has a big list.
^Smart idea. IL tolls are pointless as there are sister roads that take around the same time. Here in central FL, the toll road to WDW saves around 90 minutes, so well worth the extra 4 bucks.
I see what iluvthevu is saying about Toll Roads like I-90 which connect large cities together. With the induction of the interstate system some states prefer toll roads while others do not. There are certainly more towns in Wisconsin that have retail and restaurants right next to highway exits than there are in Indiana or Ohio off of I-90.
On the flipside, it helps lower the property taxes of everyone in the state, because tolls generate much of their own revenue for repairs and maintenance. Perhaps for the normal consumer, if you can avoid the toll roads yourself you actually end up saving money. For someone trying to make a quick buck off of travelers, not so much.
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tp41190 wrote:I think the condition of roads and interstates should be the job of the state and the residents taxes. But that's just my opinion.
At the same time though, the tollway is taxing people who use the road. Whoever uses it has to pay for it. If you live a lifestyle where you rarely have to drive on the tollway or any highway, why should you have to pay for it?
That's how it would work in an ideal world, but I know that IL state taxes probably do fund a portion of the tollway. In any case,I'm completely against paying tolls. If they weren't there though, they'd probably figure out some other way to get more money from you like raising taxes.
Tollways don't really have local exits. Head up 355 and every exit is going to be at a shopping center, smack dab in the middle of a commercial district, or a major road that is going to get you to said middle of commercial district/shopping center/place of intrest.
Pretty much only every 15 miles or so (it varies) you have to pay sometimes up to $2.. You can get an I pass or Ez pass so you don't have to pay everytime
The worst toll I ever paid was $45 and that was to cross a bridge (longest bridge in the world) one way to get on Prince Edward Island in Canada...all to ride a Galaxy