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Postby JGSixFlags on September 5th, 2005, 9:50 pm
Lauging at peoples dispare, is not a exceptible way of enjoying your self. After all I've gone through, its hard not to look at the negitives any way.
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Postby Aero737 on September 5th, 2005, 11:29 pm
It's not like we're laughing at evacuees. This kind of stuff happens. Remember last year with all the hurricane related stuff and Florida? I suppose your anti that too.
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Postby JGSixFlags on September 6th, 2005, 9:23 am
I just dont like it when people laugh at these kinda things. Let me tell you, once your in one of those situations you find it offensive when people laugh at it.
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Postby SIC COASTER on September 6th, 2005, 3:08 pm
So what was your situation that you keep draging on and on about did K-Mart close and you couldn't get food for a night or somthing.
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Postby JGSixFlags on September 6th, 2005, 6:02 pm
How dare you refure to my endurances in that manar!

If you had been reading this thred and other topics about Hurricane Katrina You would of read this...

My first disaster was on my birth day. Where i used to live (wich will remain name less. All i will say is that it is was on the other side of the world) It was an 8.56 earthquake, that distroyed my home and left my entire city with out food for weeks. While our goverment did nothing abut figure out re-election stratigies.
Then a couple years before I moved to the US. The volcano near my home erruputed, and that is twice as bad as any hurricane. Cause the ash just falls like snow. I was out and about, i had to cover my nose and mouth so as not to die. If the ash gets in you lungs it will littarey drown you. My home was consumed by lava. We were on the run from the stuff for half a day, then it stoped. My family and I were stuck in the middle of no where for a week along with a couple thousand others, my goverment know about the situation, but gave us no aid what so ever.

SO DO NOT, GIVE ME SARCASTIC SAS! CAUSE I FIND IT OFFENSIVE. I HAVE ENDURED TO MUCH FOR AN IDIOT OF YOUR STATURE TO COME ALONG AND INSULT MY EXPERIENCES!
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Postby twixmix0303 on September 6th, 2005, 6:16 pm
No offense, but that sounds like you made it up. You didn't even tell us where you were from. You're saying you outran lava? Out and about? With 2000 others? And no one helped? :roll:
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Postby JGSixFlags on September 6th, 2005, 6:24 pm
I find that statment offensive. I do not state where i am from for reasons that do not concern you. Lava may seen slow moving on TV. But different volumes of lava move at different speeds.

AND YEAH NO ONE HELPED ME! OR OTHERS! NO ONE GAVE A DAMN!

How dare you make those comments, once you see your home get destroyed by and earth quake and then a year later see you house burn to the ground from an volcanic erruption. Lets see how you react to people mocking the perils of those effected by natural disasters!

I used to live on the Ring of Fire. (if you dont know what that means, its some where in the pacfic) A Major fault line ran through my city, and there were about three volcanoes around my area. two of them were dead. one was active and errupted whilst i was living there.
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Postby Aero737 on September 6th, 2005, 6:32 pm
Okay, this ends here.
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Postby JGSixFlags on September 6th, 2005, 6:35 pm
I find the last few comments made in this topic offensive and i request them to be removed. If thats okay with you.
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Postby twixmix0303 on September 6th, 2005, 6:37 pm
JGSixFlags wrote:I find that statment offensive. I do not state where i am from for reasons that do not concern you. Lava may seen slow moving on TV. But different volumes of lava move at different speeds.

AND YEAH NO ONE HELPED ME! OR OTHERS! NO ONE GAVE A DAMN!

How dare you make those comments, once you see your home get destroyed by and earth quake and then a year later see you house burn to the ground from an volcanic erruption. Lets see how you react to people mocking the perils of those effected by natural disasters!

I used to live on the Ring of Fire. (if you dont know what that means, its some where in the pacfic) A Major fault line ran through my city, and there were about three volcanoes around my area. two of them were dead. one was active and errupted whilst i was living there.


I apologize ahead of time for hitting the "quote" button but do not want the above post edited without the original still shown for argumental purposes.

I respect your privacy, but if you want people to believe you, I suggest you give a location or at least time frame.

You said lava was slow moving on TV. Then it must move faster than it looks in real life, right? That only goes to disprove your point: that it is possible to outrun lava.

No one helped you? Do you realize that two thousand people is comparable to those that died in the 9/11 attack? Even if it was outside the United States, we would have sent aid over, just like we did for the tsunami in Asia early this year.

I also find it very coincidential that your home was completely destroyed twice within a year's time frame.

You described the Ring of Fire as "somewhere in the Pacific". For being someone who actually lived there, don't you think you would know a little bit more about it than "it was somewhere in the Pacific"? I know exactly where it is, and have gotten this diagram for those that don't: http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/Compo ... f_fire.jpg . The Pacific lies on a plate that borders plates around North America and Asia. Volcanoes form along these plates, most commonly in the Ring of Fire. Typical 4th grade science class.


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Postby JGSixFlags on September 6th, 2005, 6:40 pm
If you wish i will PM you my location. I meant my goverment didnt help me. the Salvation army and the Red cross got to us after a few weeks.
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Postby Shockwavegirl on September 6th, 2005, 8:42 pm
Ok, I do have to admit that there is something wrong with FEMA....it took WAY to long for them to get aid there. But all the name calling and finger pointing isn't doing the victims any good right now, what ever system we have in place must be played out, however screwed up it may be. Now is not the time to fire the persons in charge and start over...where does that leave the victims in the meantime. It leaves them trapped in a city where drug addicts who are desperate for a fix are killing and where the water itself is full of disease. All the crying and b-ching isn't going to make the government have gotten there sooner, and the more time they spend defending themselves is less time they are doing there jobs.

As for "Tsunami" coasters, and "Freedom" fries.....there are WAY TOO MANY uptight people in the world. Christ...it's just a freakin name for cryin out loud!



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Postby Andrew on September 6th, 2005, 10:43 pm
JGSixFlags wrote:All I am saying is. That if you accuse some one of being a Racist you have to be Racist your self.


How so?
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Postby JGSixFlags on September 7th, 2005, 6:31 am
Just think about it. that statment is as plain and as simple as i can put it. People who accuse someone of being racist are Racists, if they wernt they wouldnt even care that there were races, they would live in harmoney.
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Postby Shockwavegirl on September 7th, 2005, 4:05 pm
In a perfect world we would all be blind to the color of ones skin. But most of us have the ability to see, and we can all see that there are many different races in the world. It is quite literally "as plain as the nose on our face" that every race in the world has a different color skin/ type of features/. But to say that just because I am not literally color blind, I am racist, is about the most ignorant statement I have heard all week. I can see that we are all different, yet I do not treat others differently because of the color of their skin. I think that it the true meaning of living in harmony. Knowing that we are all different, yet not treating anyone badly because of those differences.
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Postby JGSixFlags on September 7th, 2005, 4:40 pm
No one can say they arnt racist, cause it just isnt true. We all judge people thats a fact, part of our judgment of people is most ofent race, granted many more observations are made in our days, but we will automaticly look at a persions race and make some kinda of assumption.
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Postby Jamesb58 on September 7th, 2005, 5:20 pm
I totally agree with JGSixFlags. We all, whether we know it or not,
are racist, but alot with it is, how you act upon it. We all have certain
degrees of racism in us.

If you look at 9/11, what happened? After it happened, no one can
say that they didn't look at Arab people the same, at first.

What I really, really hate is when people use race, to try to explain
why things are or arn't happening. People go after Bush claiming that
he is racist and hates Black People. People who use the "race card"
are people who cannot take responsibility for themselves.

People need to take responsibility for the actions that they choose.
The Mayor of New Orleans needs to take responsibility for the LACK
of preparedness, LACK of protection and the LACK of proper evacuation
procedures. He knew that the Levee could only hold a Category 3 storm,
but he didn't do a thing about it.

Those of you who say that President Bush could have done something
about it, needs to shut up, because, this was the Mayor City, and he
can do things to improve protection to his own city, without the need
of the President.

The Mayor is very much at fault for this happening, but no, he can't
take responsibility for his own actions, and he has to use the race
card. The people who stayed, because they didn't want to leave,
won't take responsibility for their actions and they use the race
card.

So, all in all, people just need to take responsibility for their actions
and stop using the race card!!
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Postby Andrew on September 7th, 2005, 5:26 pm
I personally am 100% NOT racist.
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Postby Shockwavegirl on September 7th, 2005, 6:34 pm
I agree that we all make assumptions in our heads about people of different origins. As much as I hate to admit it, when I flew with my children to Baltimore this summer and saw a group of Arabs on our flight, I was a tiny bit nervous. But that is an irrational fear, and I have never acted upon ANY irrational fears based on race. It's the same thing as knowing as an adult that a spider (unless poisonous) cannot hurt you....yet still sending my husband to squish it. I will agree that there are higher percentages of specific minorities in prison, however, I am intelligent enough to know that it is mostly because of income levels, not the color of their skin. As far as being racist about those of Arab decent, we have ALL been guilty of it at one time or another since 9/11, whether we admit it to ourselves or not. Those who are truly racist however, do not stop to think that we can't judge an entire race on the actions of a few. When you start making assumptions that people should not be in this country, or aren't worthy to be saved based on racist opinions is when the racist behavior becomes an evil trait.
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Postby Jamesb58 on September 7th, 2005, 8:33 pm
Shockwavegirl wrote:When you start making assumptions that people should not be in this country, or aren't worthy to be saved based on racist opinions is when the racist behavior becomes an evil trait.


That is a good point.

As I stated, there are degrees of racism. We each have a degree of
racism. It's just how we deal with the degree that we have. There
are those who take Racism to the ut-most extreme (aka..KKK, Nazi's,
etc.) but there are those who don't think about it and treat every person
with respect, no matter what color their skin is.

I do believe that there are times where Local, State and Federal officials
will not save people or expedite a rescue, just because they are racist,
but I do believe that what has been happening, is not a case of
Bush being racist.

If Bush was racist towards them, would he sign away Billions of Dollars
to help the people effected? Would Bush have gone down to New Orleans?
NO. He is a kind, compasionate person who treats everyone with respect
and will do what he can to help people.

But there are people, who are against Bush, who will try everything
to paint Bush as an Evil person, and calling him racist adds to this.

What that one singer said on Live TV was out of line. Saying that
Bush hates Black People, geez!
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Postby Shockwavegirl on September 9th, 2005, 12:36 am
Well, I like Bush, I voted for Bush......I haven't said that I thought that he was racist. I believe there is an awful lot of scapegoating going on here. Yes, FEMA screwed up, Homeland Security screwed up, but the Mayor of NO himself also screwed up and needs to stop playing the race card to distract others from his ineptitudes. Why is it that everyone thinks it's the federal governments job to tell us how to prepare for catastraphic events, aren't we smart enough to know that if the levees designed to protect our city aren't stong enough to protect us in a higher than catagory 3 hurricane, we should fix it. Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't that a city project? Shouldn't we know that if a strong hurricane is headed our way to get the heck out, or if we choose to stay have enough food and clean water to survive should we happen to get stuck in contaminated flood waters? I mean, how dumb would we have to be to believe that the federal government should protect ourselves from our ignorant selves.
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Postby RBull4life on September 9th, 2005, 7:57 am
The red cross was ready to go.

September 8, 2005

Wednesday, Sept. 7, 2005 11:52 p.m. EDT - Newsmax
Gov. Kathleen Blanco's Bureaucrats Blocked Food and Water

The Red Cross was reportedly ready to deliver food, water and other supplies to flood-ravaged refugees who were sweltering inside New Orleans' Superdome last week - but the relief was blocked by bureaucrats who worked for Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco.



Fox News Channel's Major Garrett reported Wednesday that the Red Cross had "trucks with water, food, hygiene equipment, all sorts of things ready to go ... to the Superdome and Convention Center."

But the Louisiana Department of Homeland Security, Garrett said, "told them they could not go."

"The Red Cross tells me that Louisiana's Department of Homeland Security said, 'Look, we do not want to create a magnet for more people to come to the Superdome or Convention Center, we want to get them out,'" he explained.

"So at the same time local officials were screaming where is the food, where is the water, the Red Cross was standing by ready [and] the Louisiana Department of Homeland Security said you can't go."

Not only that, but Bush has given more money to the levee system in five years than Clinton did in five years of his term. you need to ask your self, where did this money go? The state of LA has been run by Democrates for over 15 years. They knew full well what was at stake if a Cat 5 hurricane hit New Orleans levee system, and yet did nothing. To blame Bush for undercutting funding for the levee's is just insane, and has no ground to stand on. I think you should look at the mayor of NO who had at his disposal hundreds of school busses to evactuate his town before Katrina hit. Did he? No. Instead they are sitting in a parking lot flooded, and useless. Look at the above comments about the Red Cross.

And how about this. Where are the thank you's? Not once have I heard Blanco, or Naggin say thank you to everybody who has risked their lives to help their citizens. They are to busy finding everybody else to blame when instead they should be looking in the mirror to find who is to blame.

Its funny that Florida never had these kinds of problems when they got hit numerous times last year from hurricanes. you know why, is becuase Jeb Bush had plans laid out, and implemented to take action when hurricanes hit.

And Michael Moore. Here is one guy that just needs to go away. He is thinking about doing a movie about Katrina, and just like Farenheit 911, which has been proven to be filled with lies, I am sure he will find a way to blame Bush for this too. Democrates, its time to give up on the Bush bashing. He is NOT running for the Presidency in 08.

To moveon.org. I see now that you have sent, and endorsing, three people to the White House to demand that they see Bush. Whats the matter? Cindy Sheehan loose her steam, not to mention her sanity, so you have to find other people to exploit at a time of their dispair, just to make Bush look bad.

And one more rant. To anybody who beleives, and I am looking at you Mr Al Sharpton, that Bush purposly let thousands of poor black people die becuase he doesn't like them is just one of the most absurd, insane, idiotic, and just plain dumbess things I have ever heard in m live. If ou truly beleive this
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Postby kahmooza on September 9th, 2005, 8:34 am
You need to assess things with you're own eyes and not the media's. Remember: all media outlets are owned by the same parent companys. Republican conservative companies. Occasionally they have liberal "guests" on but these guests just get drilled and made out to look the fool. Al Sharpton or that rapper fella are allowed to speak their mind, I thought thats why we are in all these wars now...to protect our freedoms. *

I've posted earlier in this it comes down to our environment. We need to keep global warming in check. PRESIDENT BUSH eased the pollution laws the last 5 years thus resulting in warmer waters thus resulting in stronger more frequent "natural disasters".

This administration has a knack of having a huge event like this and then it will just keep happening but from this point on we will be dissensitised to it, which is what they want. They know damn well we will get larger and more frequent hurricanes but won't admit it because of "corporate greed".

Again I feel sorry for the republican supporters who are blinded by all the BS they feed american people. I for one can't be fooled and most of the time know events like this will happen before they do. When you break storm records year after year the last few years it's hard not to.
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Postby Shockwavegirl on September 9th, 2005, 10:37 am
I can agree with you SOMEWHAT on the issue of global warming, but Clinton also lowered some pollution laws as well, and the actual act of global warming takes years to produce catastraphic results. Plus global warming or not, HURRICANES WILL HIT the gulf coast. 2 of NO's strongest hurricanes on record hit before global warming was even a factor., Camille and the unnamed Labor Day hurricane, both which hit within 25 years of eachother.

Louisiana's government was severly lacking in preparation for a strong hurricane, they knew the levees wouldn't hold back water in a catagory 4 storm, yet they did nothing to fix it even though they were given federal money to do so, and they could have raised state taxes to raise more money of their own. It's not the federal governments job to hold their hand. They are just throwing blame into the wind so it doesn't hit them.

As for biased media, if you watch CNN, MSNBC, Fox news long enough, you will see that there are conservative and liberal hosts alike on each show. Yes, they have members of the opposite party on as guests, but rarely let them get a word in edgewise, until you want to reach through the screen and smack them for constantly innteruppting eachother, making it too damn hard to follow.
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Postby Jamesb58 on September 9th, 2005, 11:33 am
To those of you who still believe that Bush is the fault for
New Orleans devistation, let me pose this to you.

Lets say that Chicago gets hit with an F-5 Tornado. And down
town is destroyed. Would it be Bush's fault for not having Chicago
be prepared? Would it be Bush's fault that Chicago got an F-5
tornado, caues of the "Global Warming"?

The matter of the fact is, New Orleans was bound to get hit by
a strong hurricane. If your town is in a Hurricane Zone, duh,
you're going to get hit, so you better be prepared for the worst.

As far as Chicago getting an F-5 Tornado (as I illustrated earlier),
it could happen. Those of you who believe the urban legend that
Chicago will never get hit with a tornado, please dont' be stupid
and believe it. It's not a matter of IF, it's a matter of WHEN.

Now as for Kahmooza's comments....Those of us who are
Repubicans and Conservative, are not blind. I do see the crap
that Democrates try to throw at us.

Let me ask you this, do you think that Kerry could have done a
better job?? Hmm..NO!!! He would be flip floping over everything.
Yes...No...Yes...No.

I feel sorry for you Democrates who are to self centered to realize
the truth behind things. Sorry, you have to go blame people for
your own problems!
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