1: Go-Karts for sure. They're loud, stinky, and replaced a great kids area. If they took them out, it's a nice plot of land for a large ride. 2: Buccaneer Battle. Most of the effects are broken, and its overall a pretty boring ride. Although I do think the park would need another water ride if it left. 3:Supermen. Kind of selfish, but I really don't get any thrills from that ride other than the inverted loop.
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1. Go carts: Hate the fumes and noise 2 Bucky Battle: Lame ride and I hate being sprayed in the back with cold water 3. DEMON: Painful and past it's prime (might change my mind if they get new trains and fix the waterfall) 4. Yankee/ Logger's: Pains me to say it, but that is a large plot of land
1. Go carts: Hate the fumes and noise 2 Bucky Battle: Lame ride and I hate being sprayed in the back with cold water 3. DEMON: Painful and past it's prime (might change my mind if they get new trains and fix the waterfall) 4. Yankee/ Logger's: Pains me to say it, but that is a large plot of land
The Demon is rusting like crazy right now. They haven't been painting like they should been. That ride is the next to get axed. And Bucky Battle is leaving soon too without a doubt. They just need to find a good replacement for it when it leaves.
^ They did just put some work into the queue though, and bringing back the demon laugh thing... it has gotten more attention than other rides in the past two-three years.
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^^It is also not “rusting like crazy”... don’t be saying such ludicrous things. Maybe there is *some* rust on the track or supports, but guess what? Batman and Superman have some rust on the too. No big deal.
In this order: 1. Demon - So many kids bash their heads. Park is in denial. People love the low height requirement. The kids that are smaller go on it, and bash their heads. So, by having a low height requirement, it's not helping those kids bash their heads.
2. Buccaneer Battle - People don't like it. Park is in denial, and they probably think we just bought this piece of garbage ride, and we can't get rid of. Even Dollywood, got rid of theirs.
3. Hangover (dui the ride) - 3rd worst flat or water ride for me, and that's pretty bad knowing how many flats or water rides I have been on. And so what, if it's brand new for 2018. It's still junk TO ME. It's not even a hit in it's first year. That is not a good sign for this ride.
4. Giant Drop - The trend for drop rides is over. People are bored with this ride by now. People are bored with all of them. On top of that, it takes up so much space for it.
5. Fiddler's Fling - Boring & past it's prime.
6. Chubasco - The cars are too heavy to spin unless you get a lot of people in a car to help with the spinning. I shouldn't be out of breath spinning a tea cup. St. Nick's Village has such a wonderful tea cup ride (called Snowballs). I don't have this problem over there. I really enjoy that ride. Chubasco: no thank you anymore. An indoor Chance Freestyle would be good in this spot instead.
7. American Eagle - The problem with me mentioning this ride is that they would probably put something in worse than this ride. I don't care about RMC this and that, and that would probably make American Eagle worse, for me than what it is. The ride is just around. It's not a historical nothing for ME. It's not a great ride in my opinion. I have ridden so many wonderful PTC wooden coasters that I absolutely love, and this ride is just around. If it goes, it goes. If it stays, it stays. It does take up so much space though for something better, and it doesn't even have to be another roller coaster. If I was in charge of Six Flags, i would demolish the thing, and put in Scream! from Magic Mountain instead, and than add probably 3 or 4 flat rides around that because it is so much space. That would be kind of selfish though for this park to get Scream! from Magic Mountain because Six Flags St. Louis deserves it more than the stupid garbage Boss ride (in my opinion).
8. The Lobster - It's just pretty boring to me. Orbit was a much better ride.
9. Go Carts- They aren't included so I don't ride them. If they were included I would ride them. So, to me they are a waste of space.
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LEAVE FIDDLER'S DEMON AND CHUBASCO ALONE! Those are 3 of my favs!! That being said Bucky you gotta go son! I was damn winded trying to fire those awful guns! V2 your days are numbered I mean the holding brake hasn't worked in what over 10 years? Mack in the box You were a boring replacement for RC! Joker was pussified and spins were removed so why bother? Hangover ok it has a nice light package, but thats it it aint a coaster! Goliath as much flack as I'll get I don't care something launched could go here. GO karts buh bye we didn't need those gas fume spitting noise machines moved in the first place! Remove them and put in some flats Waltzer, Tilt-A-Whirl?
Demon -- either remove it or Blue Hawk treatment (just new trains, no name change or new color scheme)
Little Dipper -- I understand the whole nostalgia about this ride, but it doesn't have the same charm at SFGAm as it would at a smaller park like Santa's Village or Bay Beach.
Go-Karts -- Personally I don't understand why you would pay for admission to the park and then pay another $20 for the go-karts, when you can just go ride go-karts elsewhere for much cheaper. This and Little Dipper can open up a nice plot of land for future developments. Maybe even combine BB's spot too to make an even bigger plot of land.
Dark Knight -- We have this, Batman, Joker, and JL:BFM...all rides both Batman and Joker are associated with. For the sake of my sanity, I want DKC gone. Replace it with a ride themed to Wonder Woman (Family/thrill coaster, Giant Discovery, Star Flyer, etc.)
JL:BFM -- I'm already seeing the Six Flags affect, broken effects everywhere. And it's just not a good ride, nothing like Disney or Universal dark rides. I want whatever SFFT is getting with "Pirates of the Deep Sea" instead.
jmanporty7 wrote:Buccaneer Battle -- we all know why
Camp Cartoon -- Convert it to Bugs Bunny Boomtown
Demon -- either remove it or Blue Hawk treatment (just new trains, no name change or new color scheme)
Little Dipper -- I understand the whole nostalgia about this ride, but it doesn't have the same charm at SFGAm as it would at a smaller park like Santa's Village or Bay Beach.
Go-Karts -- Personally I don't understand why you would pay for admission to the park and then pay another $20 for the go-karts, when you can just go ride go-karts elsewhere for much cheaper. This and Little Dipper can open up a nice plot of land for future developments. Maybe even combine BB's spot too to make an even bigger plot of land.
Dark Knight -- We have this, Batman, Joker, and JL:BFM...all rides both Batman and Joker are associated with. For the sake of my sanity, I want DKC gone. Replace it with a ride themed to Wonder Woman (Family/thrill coaster, Giant Discovery, Star Flyer, etc.)
JL:BFM -- I'm already seeing the Six Flags affect, broken effects everywhere. And it's just not a good ride, nothing like Disney or Universal dark rides. I want whatever SFFT is getting with "Pirates of the Deep Sea" instead.
Buccaneer Battle alone could fit a Raptor, that land is bigger than it appears.
I would love to see a Bugs Bunny Boom Town retheme but I think this would be better suited for Kidzopolis. If they removed that unused cafe and stage and made the tent the centerpiece with rides around it I think it would look great. I could see the removal of the pirate ship and replace it with a playground like SFStL has. Since the removal of Wiggles these rides are in desperate need of updating. Camp Cartoon needs help, but so does Kidz.
Demon with new trains wouldn't make the experience any better. Just kill it off already.
Little Dipper, I agree with you but I don't see it going anywhere anytime soon. It was simply placed in the wrong spot.
Go Karts make money so that's not going anywhere either. But again, I feel like this was placed in the wrong spot, especially since we lost what was probably the best themed kids area we had.
Dark Knight and JLBFM, when the effects work these aren't particularly bad rides even if they're no where near Disney's level. This is why Cedar Fair stopped trying to mimic Disney's crap because they know they can't compete in that area. Part of me wishes SF would do the same and abandon that trend.
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Yeah, Six Flags is no Disney and they shouldn't even attempt to be like it. That was already tried under Mark Shapiro and it failed miserably.
In a recent interview Jim Reid Anderson put it blunty.... "Let's be honest, we're a thrill park"
Six Flags has a really good strategy and knows its base. The only thing I would do different is temporarily increase Capex from $135 Million to $200 Million a year. Spend more on improving the parks infrastructure and cosmetics and ditch this "Every park gets something new Every year" strategy. No need for price increases, growth alone would take care of that additional $65 Million spent on Capex.
Let Disney take care of the families, let Six Flags take care of the good folks at SFGAMWORLD
If I had my way, the rides would come down in this order 1. JOKER - yes I'm serious. What a huge waste of $$ !! Six Flags totally got clowned out of its money with this one! 2. V2 - this ride is completely useless and just puts huge drain on the power grid. The only good thing about this ride is a quick credit if the line is short, but it can go down at any time!
3. Little Dipper - terrible capacity and design. Since there are no airgates or rows, everyone must wait piled up outside the gate. Plus the measuring ruler is super far from the ride and lastly the stupid ride stops before the station and sits there for seemingly 5 minutes. Put this thing out of its misery already. Who cares that it's 60+ years old anyways?
4. Big Un-Easy Balloons - this ride is terribly inefficient: first, the ride doesn't stop at the end of the cycle but kind of coasts to a stop; Also, the operator must come around and manually open each balloon. A short line is very deceiving and the wait time can actually be 30-45 minutes for this thing.
5. Hometown Junk Machine - poor capacity, takes way too long to load/unload and Fiddler's is much more intense; basically the same style of ride. Take it down NOW since Pictorium is gone
6. Buccaneer Battle 7. Go Karts (loud, annoying, fumes, etc) 8. Rue Le Dodge - past its prime 9. Dare Devil Dive - I agree about pay rides
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CoasterRiderSC wrote: 4. Hometown Fun Machine - poor capacity, and Fiddler's is much more intense; basically the same style of ride. Take it down NOW since Pictorium is gone
I actually agree with you on this one. I can see them moving Hometown Fun Machine to Sky Trail's spot, and moving the County Fair sign farther back. This could be what the latest teaser meant when 175 yards was found to possibly be where this spot is.
Hometown and Fiddlers are very alike, and fiddlers is better, but I feel hometown still serves a purpose. I understand the thought but I would like to keep both of them.
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Joker is the ugliest, most ill-placed, ride in the park! There were so many places it could've fit without disrupting the whole area. And on top of all that it's boring and underwhelming. I would love to see it removed in the next 5 years.
Mean Streaker wrote:Joker is the ugliest, most ill-placed, ride in the park! There were so many places it could've fit without disrupting the whole area. And on top of all that it's boring and underwhelming. I would love to see it removed in the next 5 years.
YES!!!!!!!!!!
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Mean Streaker wrote:Joker is the ugliest, most ill-placed, ride in the park! There were so many places it could've fit without disrupting the whole area. And on top of all that it's boring and underwhelming. I would love to see it removed in the next 5 years.
YES!!!!!!!!!!
Ugly? I think its one of the best looking rides in the park. I don't think it's placement is too bad.
This is the OPPOSITE of this topic, but I don't want to make a new topic.
ONE is the loneliest number (from a song), and it's NOT good right now IF Six Flags only owns 1 of a certain ride.
For instance, *Triple Play is worrisome. Six Flags now only has ONE Huss Troika (Triple Play) in their parks. They technically own another one, but they have not put it back up. If you do like Triple Play, and you do worry about it going away, at least you have another one in Illinois at St. Nicholas Village, plus Cedar Fair has done the opposite of Six Flags, and put 5 million Huss Troikas in there parks. So you just need to visit a Cedar Fair park, or go to East Dundee, IL. The closest Cedar Fair park could be World's of Fun, Cedar Point, or Kings Island that each have a Huss Troika.
*Ricochet is the only Huss Swing Around at a Six Flags park.
*Sky Trek Tower - I believe this is the only sky cabin ride at Six Flags park. The good news though is that Intamin (the company that makes it) is still around & still sells these types of rides, but it's never good to be a ONE in the Six Flags corporation.
*Fiddler's Fling - I don't like it. I don't care if they get rid of it. However, if you are someone that likes this ride, ride it now. Don't wait until 5 years, and it's gone because it's the only Calypso Six Flags owns.
*The Lobster (which I don't really like), there are 2 of them at a Six Flags. The other one is in Six Flags Mexico called a different name. Still, it is a Shrawtzkof ride, and they are long gone. It being at Six Flags Mexico, doesn't really help it's case because Six Flags Mexico also has a double Chance Inverter, and not many American parks have a Chance Inverter whatsoever. When you don't have a lot of roller coasters, you rely on the smaller rides more, I guess. I suspect the next death of the Lobster = removal of the park. It already had a couple deaths more recently, and pretty soon, the park will get fed up with it, and removal. Because of multiple deaths already, I would put this ride in SEVERE danger. And yes, they moved it elsewhere, etc, etc, but things change if the thing dies again.
*Condor has a LITTLE better odds with 3 of them - at Great Escape & La Ronde plus at least Huss Rides is still in business.
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Of course, with the recent getting rid of all the Enterprises, and soon the demise of all Huss Top Spins, this reminds me to mention this.
I will give a positive statistic right now. Scramblers are NOT a one. Six Flags Over Georgia is just one of the Six Flags parks that was dumb to get rid of theirs, but there are a lot of Scramblers, plus Eli Bridge Company is still in business, and an American company. The only reason I mention America is because an American company is easier to get parts than a foreign company. It takes longer if you get a part from Germany as compared to the US.
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Mean Streaker wrote:Joker is the ugliest, most ill-placed, ride in the park! There were so many places it could've fit without disrupting the whole area. And on top of all that it's boring and underwhelming. I would love to see it removed in the next 5 years.
YES!!!!!!!!!!
Ugly? I think its one of the best looking rides in the park. I don't think it's placement is too bad.
The ride itself doesn't look too bad in the skyline. But everything on the ground doesn't fit my taste. The queue is a boring, bland piece of concrete, there is no landscaping anywhere around the ride, and even though there was some potential for awesome but cheap theming they decided to give it the worst in the park. The surrounding area just reeks of little effort, more so than what I usually expect from Six Flags.
I had a bad taste in my mouth from the horrible wait I endured on my first ride. I liked it a little more after reriding it. It's an okay addition to the park, but I don't think it will be a staple for very long.
^I actually agree a lot of what you're saying. First of all, let me just preface that I actually like the Joker and think it's a fun addition to the park. But yes, the ride just reeks of modern Six Flags with almost zero-effort in landscaping/theming. I remember when I first saw the station, my reaction was "that's pathetic," plus there's the very sterile, concrete feel of the area. When you compare the theming/look of Joker to its next door neighbor Batman, it's night and day.
^The lines for the Joker are terrible. Who welds almost every line together like that? I'm not calling for it's removal, but that is just STUPID as can be. That's why you have chains all over the rest of the park. By doing that, they are asking for trouble with everyone go under all the lines to get to the real line. I've seen it like that. It's mass chaos. Than, the employees get mad at the people. Well, who designed it so horribly like that? You think the park would learn something as simple as that after 40 years, but NOPE!
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Ilovthevu' wrote:^The lines for the Joker are terrible. Who welds almost every line together like that? I'm not calling for it's removal, but that is just STUPID as can be. That's why you have chains all over the rest of the park. By doing that, they are asking for trouble with everyone go under all the lines to get to the real line. I've seen it like that. It's mass chaos. Than, the employees get mad at the people. Well, who designed it so horribly like that? You think the park would learn something as simple as that after 40 years, but NOPE!
I'm not as disappointed in Joker now as I was when I made the first post, so I'm not calling for its immediate removal by any means.
But I have to say, it's definitely not one of our strongest coasters. And for that reason I don't think it should stay longer than most of the other coasters.
The only coaster I could see being weaker is The Dark Knight, it's fun but hasn't aged well in terms of popularity.